« on: September 23, 2012, 08:27:03 PM »
Hi ya people
Look, let's get down to the nitty gritty. I work for a camera retailer and I can guarantee you that since April the D800 has outsold the 5D Mk3 by a 5 to 1 ratio. This explains recent price drops on the body and the deal struck with the Adorama ebay site.
Sure, the camera has sold okay, but not in huge quantities like the previous Mk2. I'm pretty sure that Canon has lots of stock sitting in warehouses, just as sure as they would deny this. Sales have just picked up a little recently because of the 5D Mk3 Professional Kit with the 24-70 MkII.
Look, Canon gave us what we asked for and then we snubbed them; decided we wanted everything that we said we didn't need.
The 46mp sensor has been rumoured to have been around for at least two years. Canon obviously held back believing people would definitely be happy with a 22mp, better iso camera. We proved Canon wrong. Look, I believe even a few more megapixels, 28mp, would have kept people happy.
Canon needs to bring out the 46mp ASAP. Nikon is 'killing' them at the moment. It can't be a 1 D body. If they want lots of sales they need a 5D body, 5D X, or whatever they want to call it. It needs to be reasonably priced, just above the D800, $500 or so above it. This will bring in the crowds.
Or, they could completely stuff it up. Make it a 1 D type body that is super expensive and that 4,000 or 5,000 might buy worldwide. WAKE UP CANON !!!
Before I am torn to shreds, I'll let the wonderful readers of this forum know that I still have my 5D Mk2 and recently bought a 5D Mk3 which I am very happy with.
I, however, like all of you, would like Canon to continue doing well into the future, and the reality is that they have dropped the ball in recent years. The 5D Mk2 was a game changer; come on Canon bring out the 46mp out that blows both Nikon and Sony out of the water.
Look this is my two cents worth, my reality check for Canon. Take it as you will.
Baloney. Nikon isn't selling anything at 5:1 globally over Canon, maybe in some small market store that is Nikon focused but go to B&H (world's largest retailer on and offline) any day. and the crowd around the Canon pit is always 2-4x the size of the crowd in the Nikon pit...and that's before, during, and after the 5DIII launched. I'm there at least once or twice per week. How is it you work in a camera store and are still fixated by MP? Nikon killing Canon? Huh, read the Nikon fan boys rants about their own performance issues. All the spec sheet talk about the D600 vs 6D...and then it is confirmed by Nikon at Photokina two days ago (to Philip Bloom ) that the D600 doesn't even allow manual settings in video...I mean, really? Killing Canon? Canon has manual video in the Rebel series. There is a reason some cameras have gone backwards in MP in many cases both pro and consumer, see the recent G series and Powershot series over the past few years and 1Dx.
Seriously, no manual video controls for the D600? The uncompressed video feed was very tempting, but no control relieves me, now the D600 is just an overpriced D7000 that has an FX sensor thrown in
Though, the rebels, at least the first few didn't have much video manual control as well anyways, you can adjust the exposure compensation at least... though, Canon has Magic Lantern, and now that the 7D has been hacked~
Although, Canon hasn't evolved with it's DSLR video much past the MKII, they decided to go all out with the C series and now Sony, Nikon (at least not the D600) and M4/3 cams are better equipped and capable.
Yep, serious. He posted about it after talking with Nikon Friday. ...and there were some other points about the framing in the Nikon LCD view being atrocious and other nuances. You're right with respect to video improvements on DSLRs. There won't be much more groundbreaking stuff in DSLR format, it's going to the C100/300/500 now... which it should... the form factor can only support so much (XLRs, monitors, cage etc), the C100 is a good buy given it has the integrated accessories you'd pay another $2K+ for... no need for audio, monitors, battery pack, matte box, NDs, etc.. Those looking for more from video will be looking more toward something like the C series or competitor...and those prices will come down too, especially on the C300 now that the 500 is official.