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EOS Bodies / Re: Let's see some great shots taken with old, cheap gear!

« on: April 25, 2012, 01:48:45 PM »

It's not so much about extremes as it is about just chilling out and enjoying some photos. It's a breath of fresh air to put the latest gear and rumors aside and just look at some photos for a change.

Plus, the beauty of getting those photos is you also get to experience those things. And a reminder that the best picture is the one you took because you had a camera there, even if it wasn't the best camera.

I don't even need a picture, I just REALLY want to sit and see that sunset in AJ's last picture. The pink is so vivid and textured.

Canon 20D + Tamron 18-250:

Well, now I have to rethink the idea that a super-zoom can't give a sharp picture at its widest end. That lion picture is excellent.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon or Nikon...

« on: April 24, 2012, 02:55:32 PM »

Not only that - I just looked at it on a really big, very well color-balanced monitor. The 5D3 is positively pink in comparison to the D800 (most obvious on the cards to the right). Either the guys doing the test missed setting WB properly, or the lighting changed in between, or the 5D3 is seriously pink in these conditions - which I kind of doubt.

I'm seeing the same thing, the Nikon has a slight yellow tinge (barely noticeable) and the Canon is really pink. And I agree about NR being on in the Canon cameras, I've seen 5dii video at those higher iso levels, and it isn't that clean.

That said, the mechanics of the cameras does make sense of Canon to be much better in low-light video. The video size, etc is better for downsampling

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon, STOP shipping defective products!!!

« on: April 24, 2012, 11:50:43 AM »

First, I'v shooting Canon for 15 years. I have two 5D3’s. Neither of them showed any “noticeable” effect. Both of them are still within 30-day return period. I AM packing them up today and sending them back for full refund.

So, you had no issue with your cameras and were shooting just fine

Canon’s response to this light leak issue is unacceptable. For a $3,500 camera for which many of us have waited and saved, Canon should STOP shipping the defective products immediately.

They did stop shipping them. http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/04/canon-eos-5d-mark-iii-recall/

Major US Retailers stopped getting stock while Canon decided how to handle the issue. When they determined (like you, btw) that it was a non-issue for real world conditions, they issued their solution and continued shipping cameras.

be bold and offer to swap out the defective units unconditionally free of charge.

They did a variation of this as well, offering to fix it if you send it in to their facility free of charge. Which is honestly more than they had to do since they confirmed it has no real world effect.

Basically, Canon did everything you just asked for an issue you agreed was nothing. Why are you mad again?

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Lenses / Re: Lenses: 35L II & 85L III Next Up? [CR1]

« on: April 23, 2012, 05:27:44 PM »

Just think...if they release new versions of these the market will be flooded with used (but well taken care of) old versions that you can pick up cheap(ish).

Like the used market is flooded with 5dii's right now? (hint: it's not). Not everyone upgrades instantly, especially not at the 50% price premiums Canon has been marking lenses up. Especially not for a lens that is already some people's go-to lens they are happy with.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Sorry 5D3, Insufficient Value

« on: April 22, 2012, 09:52:22 AM »

Quick - tell that to Wall Street and the real estate market.  Clearly, they lack your pithy understanding of the word 'invest'.   

Ha, or to the hundreds of thousands of people who have lost money in the stock market for that matter. They might also call it "throwing money away", but, it's investing as well. It's only the expectation of growth that constitutes investing, "successful investing" would be those who made money.

Gotta say, a camera is much better than most other big ticket items in holding price. My TV is worthless 3 years from now, my car is worth at best half the price, I couldn't give away my smartphone to a homeless person...the list goes on.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D MarkIII & 1Dx - 1080p/60fps???

« on: April 22, 2012, 09:37:06 AM »

I think that it's very unfortunate for piece of hardware that cost aprox. 3500$ for 5DMarkIII, and 6800$ for Canon flagship camera 1Dx, that those new models can't produce 1080/60p, while Panasonic HDC-TM900 as mentioned before here in this post by user "stevenrrmanir" can provide that feature for $800

Can your TM900 take stills at 5000x3000? Can it take them at 6fps or 10fps? Can it produce a depth of field even equivalent to f/3.5? Can it handle shooting in the near dark and produce a relatively clean image? Can it's footage be used immediately out of the camera? Does it allow me to customize color profiles that make it easier to grade in post?

I own one, I know the answer is no to all of those questions. It's not an apples to apples comparison. More like apples to concrete. Canon already has some minor issues with camera's overheating on longer shots, 1080/60 would probably magnify that. Not to mention it could cause recording to drop if the buffer rate isn't up to par. So, if they can't implement in cleanly, they wouldn't do it at all. Check the reviews for Sony's DSLR's (well, DSLT's), they all have big issues with overheating when recording video due to the 1080/60. The A55 was notorious for that. 1080/60 doesn't do you any good if you can't even get the shot

It's why the new Canon cine cameras have completely different internals. To be able to record and process 1080/60 or 4k, you can't have so many pieces so close all overheating. A firmware upgrade probably isn't enough without it causing issues.

Canon's flagship camcorder (the $1350 VIXIA HF G10) can't produce 1080P60 either.

Nor does the XA-10, or any of the XF cameras as far as I know. And since I use those frequently for work, I can tell you that I don't miss the 60fps ever. It's really only something you need in action shooting, and then, you want the tiniest camera you can get so its portable. That's where the TM700/900 win out. But, I'm able to carry my 60D with a lens or two AND my TM700 with me wherever I go. My 60D will never match the convenience of the TM, my TM will never match the look of the 60D. I ultimately need both

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: New FF from Sony - A99 - 102 x-type AF

« on: April 21, 2012, 08:50:45 PM »

It appears that videographers are mostly underwhelmed by the 5DIII video enhancements.
If Sony play their cards well, the A99 might become the DSLR of choice for videographers.

There were a lot of people that thought that about the A77, that it would replace the 7D because it did sports well (high frame rate, 1080/60, video AF). Except, in reality it sucked, their lens selection is bad, and the delay to market made the 1DX delay look short. I was pumped for the A77; I got a 60D instead and never looked back. And when the reviews came, they were the same as the other Sony cameras. "If they worked, they'd be amazing, but they don't".

So, an underwhelming camera, given a full-frame sensor and nothing else, still is probably an underwhelming camera. Even if it's the same Sony sensor as the D800. And full-frame will just make their lens selection look worse. You're basically limited to Zeiss price levels for anything good. With Canon and Nikon, you can at least find some value in their primes

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EOS Bodies / Re: NEW CANON 5D-CINEMA!!! POSSIBLE LEAK!!!

« on: April 19, 2012, 10:41:25 PM »

Stick a 4K sensor in that sucker, add video features such as peaking, zebras etc, remove most unnecessary stills stuff (like 61pt AF etc) All for around the $4k mark and I'm sold.

On saying that though, its a hoax and more than likely never happen.

So, what you are saying is you want the Black Magic cinema camera...or the digital bolex. Both exist for <$3k in the next few months, with RAW capability, and with 2.5k or more resolution.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Blackmagic Cinema Camera does 2.5K for $3K

« on: April 19, 2012, 04:36:37 PM »

Another interesting article/review from one of the beta testers. Sounds like he really liked the flexibility it provides. And the RAW images look really fun to work with from a color grading perspective

http://johnbrawley.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/blackmagic-cinema-camera-lets-take-it-from-the-top/

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon is getting owned in sensor technology

« on: April 19, 2012, 12:19:06 PM »

General public may not know about DxO techniques, but they don't have to. The DxO engineers certainly do and they have made it easier for the public by categorizing performances along the categories. Be in complete denial and attack the messenger (DxO).

So, you are saying a camera with a lesser AF system and that shoots at 4fps is better for sports than one that shoots at 6fps, because DxO's score and label says so? Even though they admit the difference (25%) is equivalent to about 1/3EV, which in most cases won't even change your shutter speed?

I won't doubt that the sensor is better, but, if the camera isn't in focus, or its too slow to get the picture, the sensor means nothing.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 2.5K EF-Mount Blackmagic Cinema Camera

« on: April 19, 2012, 12:10:40 PM »

That it comes with Resolve as well is what makes it really interesting. As EOSHD said, they are basically giving you the camera for $1500 and the software for $1500. And if you are minimizing FX processing, you can actually do a decent amount of editing in Resolve itself. Tie it in with FCP and you've got a really simple workflow. Same thing with the Digital Bolex, open source format that is easy to tie into existing editing systems.

I do find it amazing that none of the major companies have really tackled this market at that price point. Clearly people on a low-budget are used to dealing with hassles and workarounds, but getting RAW ability is a huge advantage over dealing with compressed footage.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Big Megapixel Body in 2013?

« on: April 19, 2012, 09:27:42 AM »

What I want most is image quality. I don't need video capability, so if that's adding a significant amount of money to the price of the camera, leave it out. If a price gap needs filling, I'd prefer to see Canon going between the 7D and the 5D3, like where the 5D2 is, assuming the 2 is going to be put out to pasture.
No video, just  stills.

Its not. Video is a firmware thing; it's how the 50D, which was released without a video mode, can record videos. And video makes the cameras sell more, which keeps the cost down. For example, if Canon released the 5dIII with no video, they'd probably have had to charge $5k for it. Because they'd get half as many sales, and they'd have to pass the cost of R&D and manufacturing to half as many people.

A high MP body (already limiting your sales audience) with no video (further limiting) would probably cost as much as a 1DX. Because Canon would be passing on the cost of a new sensor, a new body configuration, etc.

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Lenses / Re: Any word on the Canon prime's with IS?

« on: April 18, 2012, 11:24:09 AM »

F/2.8 is plenty for DOF effects...have you ever heard anyone with a 70-200 2.8 complain of lacking DOF?

While I agree that f/2.8 is plenty for DOF, the 70-200 has a huge advantage over either of these primes, since the focal length also effects DOF. I've found I can isolate a subject more at 200mm f/4 than I can at, say, 50mm f/2.8.

But, at 24mm and 28mm, its more about getting the low-light shot than worrying about DOF; especially on a full-frame setup.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Something peculiar from online retailer

« on: April 17, 2012, 04:09:30 PM »

Just got the 5D3 body and the 24-105 lens.  Both came in their individual retail boxes, with warranty cards, CDs, etc.

Well, having gotten a body with kit in other cases, all you really got was an extra 24-105 L box...since the kit boxes come with the CD, warranty cards, etc.

Like Neuro said, the price difference is probably just a few bucks.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: CANON U.S.A. INTRODUCES EOS-1D C DIGITAL SLR CAMERA FEATURING 4K HIGH-RESOLUTION VIDEO CAPTURE

« on: April 12, 2012, 11:26:57 AM »

I don't understand why they left all the high-end still features on board, I mean there are so many awesome cameras out there, hell you could get 2 FS700's for this, WTF Canon?

You do know none of those FS-700's will do 4k though. Gonna cost you more for that firmware upgrade and output box. Oh, and you start at ISO 500, not 100.

More than the Scarlet, you can't be serious.

Actually, by the time you get a Scarlett you can film with, its about the same price. And the Canon will shoot to a convenient format (CF cards), rather than a proprietary RED hard drive that costs 10x as much.

http://www.red.com/store/scarlet/product/scarlet-x-al-canon-mount-package