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Lenses / Re: What should I buy next?
« on: June 21, 2012, 04:20:24 PM »
You'd have to give us the full run-down of your kit really. You only mention one body and one flash; which is half of what you should have of each, and you don't mention any lenses. You need duplicate bodies in case something goes wrong, that's a critical first. And it's tough to recommend other lenses without knowing which primes/zooms you have now.

The 100L is nice for detail shots, but, I think you'd like the versatility of the 85mm lenses or the 135mm more in terms of portraits. And in the mean time, extension tubes work well, since your details aren't moving and you'll be setting up the shots anyway.

Lenses / Re: Faster cheapish prime for a wedding?
« on: June 21, 2012, 04:16:33 PM »
I think you are more than fine with your kit, the 50mm f/1.4 is barely gonna move your shutter speeds up at all vs the f/1.8's, and a creative use of flash will save far more shots than the 2/3 stop of light. If anything, you should be looking to grab the 430ex for candid shots, unless you have nailed the YN560's usage. Without the flash, I was stuck shooting 1/30th at my reception...with it on, I was shooting at 1/160th and 1/200th, which was more than sufficient. Unless the reception is outside, they are plenty of places to bounce the flash.

Lenses / Re: Ultra-Wide options for APS-C Body
« on: June 21, 2012, 04:11:59 PM »
Thank you both for the quick replies! I am less concerned about the max aperture, as this will be a daylight shoot in the American Southwest, so light will be more than abundant.
Based on that, I'd go with the 10-22. The 10-22 will be more resistant to flare, it will handle distortion a little better, and it gives you double the range. Only reason I'd go with the Tokina for your purposes is if you are also shooting video with it, in which case the flare it produces can actually be quite nice.

Lenses / Re: ephotozine review of 40mm f2.8 STM
« on: June 20, 2012, 04:27:31 PM »
This lens, mounted to a 5DIII, is the mirrorless / Leica X2 / Fuju X100 killer that everybody's been dreaming about. It's got all the photographic goodness everybody keeps saying they want in a compact body and then a whole hell of a lot more, and the combo is hardly bigger than a compact. It's eminently pocketable (in a way that a 5DIII with the Plastic Fantastic isn't), and non-photographers will look at it and only see a high-end P&S -- especially if you shoot with Live View at arm's length.
You're stretching the truth with the bolded parts. For starters, this thing is only 3/4" smaller than the 50mm, its negligible as a combo. Especially when you consider that even my rain jacket pockets would struggle to fit my 60D, and that's smaller than the 5dIII. Nobody is gonna confuse a 5dIII for a P+S. An NEX with a pancake is pocketable, but it's literally half the height and depth.

I agree that this would be a great combo as a prime, but lets not make it the game-changer that it isn't.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Pressure By the Nikon D600?
« on: June 20, 2012, 12:22:00 PM »
$849 for just a T4i? Seriously...
You do realize the T3i and T2i released at the exact same price for the body. And that the T1i I believe was $799 for the body. It's not even like the 5dIII where there was a big price jump, its the exact same pricing as previous generations.

EOS Bodies / Re: NEW FF Body that is able to take EF-S Lens
« on: June 19, 2012, 11:11:11 PM »
If Canon doesn't do this, the decision will be purely sales driven.  It forces people to but new lenses if they move from APS-C to FF.
Or it will be driven by Canon not wanting users confused about why their lenses cause a huge black circle around their image on their $2000+ camera. Gonna be a lot of pissed off users when they find out "using" an EF-S lens means this

Besides, if you're putting $2k+ into your camera body...what EF-S lens would you even want to mount on it? I guess I could see someone wanting to use the 10-22 or 17-55...but, Canon make full-frame versions at the same price points basically (17-40 and 24-70)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's Mirrorless Entry
« on: June 19, 2012, 11:07:21 PM »
Proof is in the pudding - pancake 40mm points towards a bigger sensor (and no new mount?)...
Except why would they release a lens for a system before the system is even announced? You think they have 3 other pancake lenses lined up for a mirror less EF system?

The pancake 40mm points to Canon wanting an f/2.8 prime with the silent autofocus motor at a price that Rebel users would purchase.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon's Mirrorless Entry
« on: June 19, 2012, 05:19:37 PM »
I was hoping for FF or APS-C size and can be used with current EF "L" lenses
Canon makes a whole line of cameras that can do that...the T4i, the 60D, the 7D, the 5dII, 5dIII, and soon, the 1DX.

If you wanted the DSLR capabilities in a mirror less sized body (like, Sony NEX size), you're dreaming. For one, the EF mount alone would make the mirror less camera the size of a T4i. The sensor would cause the same effect. Canon hasn't sized the Ti camera's up, thats about as small as they can reasonably make an APS-C sized sensor with EF mount.

While there could be some other nice features from mirror less, I haven't seen anything from the current crop (better AF, better frame rate, better video, etc) that would make me drop my DSLR and switch. And I don't expect Canon to be the one to get their first

Canon General / Re: Canon Launches Mixed Reality System
« on: June 18, 2012, 05:36:24 PM »
Not quite sure what to make of this.
It looks like the technology allows designers to change designs on the fly. So if you wanted to move a button on a camera and figure out how it feels ergonomically, you can do it far quicker than chiseling out a new mockup.
It basically seems like it has no affect on 99.9% of consumers. Only those that already do design that might be interested in how a high end company is innovating their R&D process to keep time and cost down.

So, maybe it means the 5dIV will cost $3400 instead of $3500

* You think I'm crazy? In the first weeks, where it was really hard to find a 5D3 in stock, they sold on ebay for a big markup ($4000 body only). But now it can already be bought at a discount at reputable ebay sellers ($3220). I think the official price will follow in the coming weeks.

that's why I started this thread:
Yes, you are crazy, and for the same reasons people stated in that thread. Amazon USA's top seller list is one specific metric of many...and yet you are inferring everything from it. For one, a lot of the original pre-orders got cancelled at Amazon because B+H, Adorama, etc got stock before them. Cameras were shipping and people got mad that Amazon hadn't even gotten a shipment yet. You can find threads on this forum to that effect. So that would impact your numbers. Especially since the D800 has had universal stock issues, and I haven't read about a specific retailer getting orders dumped. That doesn't even factor in whether the target audiences would normally buy from Amazon.

Then lets go further. Amazon has one option for the D800, yet two for the 5dIII (body and kit). Today, the 5dIII body is 5th, the D800 is 6th, the 5dIII kit is 39th. Do you know what that means? No, because that only tells you relative numbers. Do pre-orders affect those rankings? Do they factor in cancelled orders? If I'm assuming answers like you, I'd assume the D800 got crushed today and I should expect to see it for $2800 in a few weeks. You're asking the 8-Ball for answers and assuming its all knowing.

At best, I think you'd see Canon admit prices are too high by doing a big body/lens combo rebate. Rather than taking $150 or $200 off, like they have for the APS-C cameras, you'd see $3-400 when you buy a lens with it. Even then, I wouldn't expect that until the end of summer.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: When to get a used 5d2?
« on: June 18, 2012, 12:37:52 PM »
I'd definitely wait to see what happens after Canon does their inventory and puts the refurb cameras back in their might affect prices on some things

As for your question on price, I'd say the cost of the 5dIII is what is keeping the 5dII market afloat. For full-time wedding pro's making really good money, they upgraded to the 5dIII right away for the improved AF and fps. But, for a lot of other users, the cost wasn't worth some of the upgrades. The 5dII was the only affordable full-frame from Canon, so everyone who wanted full-frame got it. Now there are two options, and the cheaper one is gonna be what a lot of people accept unless they need added features.

I don't think you'll see the price of the 5DII drop significantly unless Nikon releases the D600 very soon, or Canon releases a $2000ish 5dII replacement shortly

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Rebel T4i Review With Video Samples
« on: June 15, 2012, 12:44:20 PM »
That's about what I expected for the auto-focus. Maybe the STM lenses will be smoother, but, the sample in that video is just a slightly improved version of the Nikon auto-focus. It certainly doesn't replace or come close to video camera AF

EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DIII the New 50D?
« on: June 15, 2012, 08:33:15 AM »
If the translucent mirror gives the A99 a frame rate approaching 10fps with 24mp at the rumored price of around $2500 - $2800, then the 5D Mark III becomes even harder to justify at $3499.
Well, the whole EVF v optical viewfinder is still kind of a big deal. I still haven't seen an EVF that makes the camera worth it...both between killing the battery life and making it hard to see in less than ideal conditions (things that matter to full frame users).

Lenses / Re: Recommendations for a fast sub-28mm lens for ~$1k?
« on: June 14, 2012, 06:22:21 PM »
For fast, wide and relatively cheap, the two contenders are Samyang 14mm f/2.8 and Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.  Other options are either above 17mm, slower than f/2.8 or much more expensive
Yep, and both would work well for your purposes. The Tokina would give you more options, the Samyang would be cheaper. If those aren't fast enough, your only real Canon option is the 28mm f/1.8. Also, if the Tokina is too wide for your tastes, there is the older Canon 20-35mm f/2.8L that you can get for $4-500ish on Ebay, if not cheaper. But I think the 28mm f/1.8 would probably give you stronger image than that.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: right time to turn pro...?
« on: June 14, 2012, 02:37:26 PM »
But it's not just about income. I made a disturbing realization that the more I was shooting for money, the more my hobby was dying. It has now been YEARS since I went out to take some pictures just for fun. It's not that I don't have time to do it - I just don't feel like it if you can believe that. And that thought saddens me, because I loved my hobby.
I had this same thing happen with my video work; I work as a video editor AND I was producing videos all weekend, and I just got burned out so quickly. It just occurred to me that I haven't done a video in my free time in 4-5 months now basically...which used to be unthinkable. Thankfully I've kept photography from becoming that, and while I did just shoot a friends wedding, I know its not something I want to do consistently for income.

Another good place to ask advice from wedding photographers is this forum:

They've been discussing a lot of the same things you asked, and you'd probably learn a lot of the business side from there. I agree with whoever said to become a 2nd shooter for someone; it takes a lot of the risk away from you, but it gives you invaluable experience. The other thing you need to do is stop doing free work; because it will get you branded as the guy who does his work for cheap. If you want to start doing photography full-time, you need to really decide what you'll need to charge, and if you can book clients at that price.

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