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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon is just stupid (still no usable auto iso in 5D III)

« on: March 15, 2012, 08:32:51 PM »

Seems to me that:

Auto ISO has the full range in all modes

Auto ISO limits can be set

When using Auto ISO shutter speed limits can be set.

Seems to me that Canon has been far from stupid  in that the auto iso is better than the 1D4/1Ds3.

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Canon General / Re: Social experimant: I do not have enough smites soooo...

« on: March 15, 2012, 08:16:43 PM »

I'm sure if you guys put the Queen on your money, all will be forgiven. 

Americans would be more than up for this notion once Kate Middleton takes the thrown, but aren't there two old hags in line in front of her ?

No need to speak of my mother like that 

Please forgive my foul language. I wasn't aware that I was in the presence of royalty. I kindly ask that you take mercy upon me, for I am just a poor peasant 

Nah my mother is the flower seller that sells the flowers to the crowd to give to the Duchess of Cambridge 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon is just stupid (still no usable auto iso in 5D III)

« on: March 15, 2012, 07:49:21 PM »

I use auto iso on the 1D4 (nd on the 7D) in manual mode, setting the shutter speed and the aperture and letting the camera set the ISO

This is great for fast moving subjects that move in varying light conditions

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price

« on: March 15, 2012, 07:34:14 PM »

If I don't know what kind of pictures you take is because you didn't want to tell before nor to answer my questions.





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@briansquibb: wow so you take pictures to birds at 1200...using a flash?
I totally understand taking pictures at birds with 1200...but really quite difficult if handheld...but I don't get the use of a flash for wildlife at 1200mm.

Gabriele told me what I took then complained I didn't tell him. I suppose you didn't read it either

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?

« on: March 15, 2012, 07:16:23 PM »

hey the 40d is The classic out of the whole xxd series!

Yeh the 40D kicks ar*e out of the 7D 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?

« on: March 15, 2012, 06:50:52 PM »

I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one that these apply to

What if the Nikon D800 was only 22 MP...........
I guess all you guys (who really needs 36mp all of a sudden) would have no camera to take pictures with.

Well, I've manage to take AND SELL a fair number of pictures with 10MP, but if you're telling me that I can't do better with 36MP then I guess I'll just have to trust that you know more about my photography than I do.   

+1 me too. The 40D sits in the car just in case. It is amazing what it can do.

I feel SO inferior when using the 40D, I am frightened that I will be called a newb by a pompous person with a series 1

Newb 

 

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Canon General / Re: Social experimant: I do not have enough smites soooo...

« on: March 15, 2012, 06:50:07 PM »

I'm sure if you guys put the Queen on your money, all will be forgiven. 

Americans would be more than up for this notion once Kate Middleton takes the thrown, but aren't there two old hags in line in front of her ?

No need to speak of my mother like that 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price

« on: March 15, 2012, 06:48:56 PM »

If I don't know what kind of pictures you take is because you didn't want to tell before nor to answer my questions.

That just proves you dont read my posts correctly

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Canon General / Re: Social experimant: I do not have enough smites soooo...

« on: March 15, 2012, 06:18:22 PM »

While you two ladies go at it, I have another social observation that's troubled me for quite some time. Why is it that the Brits and Aussies, or Brits and South Africans for that matter, seem to have a closer kinship that with we Americans? Aren't we all products of Mother England ?

You took our tea - and we haven't forgiven you yet. One day you will come grovelling back and beg us to teach you cricket 

Who needs cricket? Just send over Naomi Watts and Sienna Miller, and my fellow countrymen and I will be happy campers. We'll even ship Russell Brand back to the U.K. as part of the deal 

Oh please!!!!  it took us a long time to get Katy Perry to like that ragamuffin Brand and ship him over to you

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Canon General / Re: Social experimant: I do not have enough smites soooo...

« on: March 15, 2012, 06:09:43 PM »

While you two ladies go at it, I have another social observation that's troubled me for quite some time. Why is it that the Brits and Aussies, or Brits and South Africans for that matter, seem to have a closer kinship that with we Americans? Aren't we all products of Mother England ?

You took our tea - and we haven't forgiven you yet. One day you will come grovelling back and beg us to teach you cricket 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mk III vs D800/E, is the 5D3 better at anything?

« on: March 15, 2012, 06:06:34 PM »

I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one that these apply to

What if the Nikon D800 was only 22 MP...........
I guess all you guys (who really needs 36mp all of a sudden) would have no camera to take pictures with.

Well, I've manage to take AND SELL a fair number of pictures with 10MP, but if you're telling me that I can't do better with 36MP then I guess I'll just have to trust that you know more about my photography than I do.   

+1 me too. The 40D sits in the car just in case. It is amazing what it can do.

I feel SO inferior when using the 40D, I am frightened that I will be called a newb by a pompous person with a series 1

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price

« on: March 15, 2012, 05:59:25 PM »

Still today Canon guys told me about the f/8 focus and the way focus works, they preferred to do it this way because an f/8 sensor is bigger than an f/5.6 thus they wouldn't have been able with the actual technology to stuff so many focus points on the sensor.

Sorry, but you either misheard, or more likely, the Canon rep was talking BS and doesn't understand such things, either.  An f/8 sensor has a narrower baseline than an f/5.6 sensor, so it actually takes up less space on the sensor.  Doesn't mean they could fit them in, but that's reality - the narrower the aperture, the more tightly spaced the lines. 

To see what I mean, compare an f/2.8 sensor with an f/5.6 sensor - see the diagram below, look how far apart the f/2.8 lines are compared to the f/5.6 lines.

Well sensors aren't just about their sensitivity, but also the type of sensors, points, cross type, diagonal and so on. Apparently they couldn't fit it with this kind of configuration to keep the focusing system as good as the new one.
If an f/8 sensor was always smaller, don't you think they could just put all f/8 sensors accross the whole frame? It would have been awesome, but probably they don't work as well as f/2.8 or f/5.6 sensors.

@briansquibb: wow so you take pictures to birds at 1200...using a flash?
I totally understand taking pictures at birds with 1200...but really quite difficult if handheld...but I don't get the use of a flash for wildlife at 1200mm.

So you prefer taking pictures at high ISO up to 1600 with the 1D4 instead of using the 1Ds that you say you use only up to 400ISO ??

I don't talk rubbish, tell me where I misquoted you, I can't read your mind I just read what you write.
What is that you don't like about the graphs beside denoting how the 5D2 is better than the 1Ds3?

To honest Gabriele I dont care at for what you say.
I dont care if you think the 5D2 is better than the 1Ds3
I dont care that you dont know how to take flash at 1200mm

You know nothing about me, my kit, my experience or the types of photos I take

Just back off please

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EOS Bodies / Re: Question regarding ISO 50 on 5D III

« on: March 15, 2012, 02:56:12 PM »

In film, you are correct, but in digital, until they make it an actual default setting and not an expanded setting, you will not see any less noise, but you may see more room for highlight recovery in post production.  It would be nice if Canon/nikon really developed this ISO to match the saturation and buttery smoothness of the old velvia films and the like... as of now, it's good if you need to have longer exposures (running water scenes for instance) but not much anything else.

It is also useful for keeping the DOF narrow ie moving from f4 to f2.8 just by chnging the iso from 100 to 50

I am taking some portraits tomorrow - I will take them at iso50 to see if they are better

Good point, so other than exposure related situations (longer exposures or faster F stops), minor IQ changes...

DxO show marginally better figures at iso 50 than iso100. Compare the 5D2, 1d4, 1ds3 and 7D - they all show an improvement - which matches my subjective observation with the 5S2. Tomorrow I will be using the 1Ds3 - I will post a sample if wanted - but I suspect the interweb will mask the difference

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EOS Bodies / Re: Question regarding ISO 50 on 5D III

« on: March 15, 2012, 02:39:47 PM »

In film, you are correct, but in digital, until they make it an actual default setting and not an expanded setting, you will not see any less noise, but you may see more room for highlight recovery in post production.  It would be nice if Canon/nikon really developed this ISO to match the saturation and buttery smoothness of the old velvia films and the like... as of now, it's good if you need to have longer exposures (running water scenes for instance) but not much anything else.

It is also useful for keeping the DOF narrow ie moving from f4 to f2.8 just by chnging the iso from 100 to 50

I am taking some portraits tomorrow - I will take them at iso50 to see if they are better

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EOS Bodies / Re: Hugely Disappointed In 5D III Price

« on: March 15, 2012, 02:14:29 PM »

Haven't read you saying you sold one 5D2 for 2 7D

That is because I didn't say that

Why I want to know what do you shoot at 1200mm f/8 ISO 400 with flash? Well because I'm really curious about this combination and really what kind of pictures would you ever want to take with such a setup.

Wild life

Still today Canon guys told me about the f/8 focus and the way focus works, they preferred to do it this way because an f/8 sensor is bigger than an f/5.6 thus they wouldn't have been able with the actual technology to stuff so many focus points on the sensor.
What kind of pictures would you take with AF at f/8 1200mm BTW? A 600mm is quite a heavy lens so you'd probably use it on a gimbal head, to subject that don't move too much, so there's the chance you could still use manual focus

Birds in flight, no chance for manual focus

You seem also not clear about what do you want: do you want speed? Do you want quality? Do you want full frame or crop? What kind of pictures do you take mainly?

Also final thing since you seem blind at the graphs on DxO I'll post them here so you can see how 5D2 has better IQ than Ds3 (as also the canon representative said and like lot of people and tests can confirm).

Well the 1ds3 scores higher than the 5D2 in everything except the high iso. The 1ds3 is a far better camera than the 5D2 in more than IQ

Why would you use the 1Ds3 in low light when you have a 1D4?

I take pictures in low light - but with iso no higher than 400

I also take pictures with the 1D4 in low light with the iso up to 1600 - although sometimes higher if needed for the shot

This underlines that you haven't understood that FF cameras perform better in low light: a 1Ds3, a 5D2 or 5D3 are surely better than a 1D4 in low light-high ISO situation.

Here your tests where you can see how 1Ds3 is not better than 5D2: as you can see the 1Ds3 has more dynamic range than the 5D2 only at 100ISO, after that the 5D2 beats the 1Ds...beside the fact the difference at 100ISO is really marginal. This is why you shouldn't look only at the final numbers but at the whole graph.

I think you are talking rubbish - you clearly dont understand my comments and constantly misquote/ misunderstand/misread what I am saying