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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]

« on: August 07, 2012, 04:35:49 AM »

Everyone goes on about the D800 - excluding mps it is barely to the 2007 1Ds3 standard as an all-round camera

You made my day!

Resolution and DR have direct impact on IQ and yet you compare D800 with 1Ds Mark III.

Even my 2004 1Ds2 is still churning out impressive pictures at 16x12.

My 2001 Fiat Coupé still runs very smooth, you think I should compare it to a 2012 Mercedes-Benz?

Resolution beyond those pixels needed have no impact on IQ. a 10mp picture when printed contains no extra detail whether it comes from a 21mp camera or a 36mp camera. It is the colour rendition and clarity that really counts.

DR on the 1DS3 is very close that on the D800 - particularly in normal shooting where DR requirements rarely get above 10. The 1Ds3 matches the noise of the D800 at 50-200iso

I would be very surprised indeed if there was any visible improvement on a 16x12 from a D800 rather than the 1Ds3 - particularly when the Canons superior lens are taken into account.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Firmware update for 7D

« on: August 07, 2012, 02:02:10 AM »

Not available yet on the canon-europe site

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Camera Crossroads :)

« on: August 07, 2012, 01:39:11 AM »

My 1Ds3 had to have a new shutter fitted On holiday a couple of weeks ago I had a small number of pictures with the tell tale white line down one edge. Glad to say the service and repair has given me an as new camera, plus of course the shutter is now under warranty.

The good news is that the annual clean and service means I get a calibration done so AFMA is pretty much not needed.

It is good to be clear what direction ones shooting is going towards as it allows the kit needed to worked out and put out of your head.

I am on a full frame, slower moving route where I am taking portraits of humans and animals (big demand for animal portraits) plus architectural photos of older buildings, so that is the domain of the 1Ds2/3

I still enjoy the occasional sports/wildlife shoot so I will be keeping the 1D4 for that

I expect to do more close-up/macro work so my 7D will be useful for that - as well as for general backup/street

The 1DX that is expected shortly may push out the 7D. The 1DX I see more as a general purpose body which I expect to use as a walkabout/default body. Until PW get their act sorted then it will be limited as I use a lot of flash most of the time .

With the move to ff I have plans for a 300 f/2.8 II in order to compensate for the loss of 1.3 crop - until now I have been using the 200 on the 1D4 - which is clearly going to be shorter on ff. 200 on the 1D4 is a combo which I use a lot, so the new lens will be desirable. The 200 f/2 on ff is my favourite portrait combo - it is flattering for the subject  - and the bokeh is just stunning

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]

« on: August 07, 2012, 01:05:29 AM »

Ok. more megapixels. That was always going to happen.

But will the sensor be any better?
Will it still have vertical banding up the wazoo in dark areas?
Will the read noise be the same?
Will the dynamic response be about the same?

What was so good about the D800 wasn't just the increase in number of pixels but the quality of those pixels.

yeah it's low ISO DR that was even more impressive
(and ability to still hit 5-6fps under certain circumstances)

Everyone goes on about the D800 - excluding mps it is barely to the 2007 1Ds3 standard as an all-round camera

Even my 2004 1Ds2 is still churning out impressive pictures at 16x12.

I have found that modern sensors are so good that the critical factor is the lens. Comparing an image from a 24-105 with one from a 200 f/2  on the same body shows up on larger print with better detail definition as well as improved contrast and colour rendition. The 70-200 f/2.8 II is very good as well.

If you are only taking for the web then a 5Dc plus top lens is as good as anything (as it gives that unique 5Dc colour rendition)

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Lighting / Re: FlexTT5 and 5DmkIII

« on: August 06, 2012, 05:38:15 PM »

They have just announced compatibility with the 600EX flashes. I would guess a beta will be available by end of september

It is the 1DX compatibility that I want.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]

« on: August 06, 2012, 10:04:59 AM »

I thought we were over the Pixel Wars?  There must be a market for this sensor, or else why bother.  I would settle for a full frame 15-20Mpix that can shoot in the dark at say... 500,000 ISO.  I think most consumers (90% guesstimate) and many professionals (70% guesstimate) would be satisfied with this sensor spec.

There is more than just the sensor to consider.  There is the glass, storage, file handling just to name a few big ones.  Not being a physics pro, I do hear there is a light wave issue with small apertures resolving onto large sensors - in that you waste space on the sensor.  (I will let a more knowledgeable person explain it.)

I would bet the driving force for these high pixel counts can be traced to asteroid mining  (LOL - don't get me started).  I guess you would need these pixels for cropping and isolating a subject/target without loosing detail.  If NASA or any other space program can put good glass in front of this sensor, they could pull down some great space shots.   I think it's use is questionable for us terrestrial shooters.

I rarely shoot at over iso400 so a camera that shoots at iso 500,000 is of no interest at all. The MF shooters have been using 40+mp for some time - OK for large prints.

It is the quality of the image that counts

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon one series shutter life

« on: August 06, 2012, 09:46:25 AM »

The new shutter on my 1Ds3 cost £224 including the full service. Well worth it

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EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III

« on: August 06, 2012, 03:38:45 AM »

I understand that my post here is off topic, but I'll hope that all here forgive my poor posting manners. I have to say that I'm really happy that I stumbled upon this post, as it helped me make a camera body decision that I have been struggling with. I am a happy owner of both a 7D and more recently at 5D2. I had an old 30D and shot tons of images with it, and it was really what enabled me to fully embraced the digital world, (yes, I was one of those guys that was holding onto the dream of film...)So I got the 7D and was wildly impressed with it, even with the noisy nature of the images that it produced. Super AF, great metering, and 8FPS. Really, a great camera. But I missed the FF of 35mm film. So I found a 5D2 and was wowed at the IQ but the meter was just okay, and the AF sucked... Especially with my longer primes. My struggle has been sell both bodies and go where? Go backwards and grab a 1DsIII or go for the 5D3. After reading the posts here, the 5D3 is the perfect animal for the type of photos I tend to go for.. Thanks

If you only plan on one body then I would recommend the 5DIII over the 1DS3

The 1DS3 is brilliant at low iso and portraits, the AF is very good - at least as good as the 7D, plus the AF metering

If you want a 'standard' body with an all-round camera the 5DIII is a better package.

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Lens Gallery / Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM

« on: August 06, 2012, 02:26:56 AM »

Golden Gurnsey goat

F/2.8 on 1D4

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Canon are you listening...?? NIKON D600

« on: August 06, 2012, 02:21:48 AM »

TIFFs, crikey.  Does it work with IBM microdrives as well?

I expect it to come with a drop down keyboard with all the option buttons on

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]

« on: August 06, 2012, 02:02:51 AM »

You'd shoot a wedding with a 1Ds3?  Haha, ok, good luck.  Better bring a ton of portable lighting.

In the UK flash is fine for weddings, except during the actual ceremony. Coming back down the aisle afterwards makes for a classic 2 stand picture

I always shoot with flash, and yes the 1DS3 works very well. But of course the backup body needs to be good in low light for those times. Flash is needed both for sunny and dull days

I did my last wedding with about 80% 1DS3 and 20% 5D2. The 1Ds3 AF point metering really makes a difference in reducing the number of missed exposure shots.

I think having a 1DX as the main body and the 1Ds3 as the backup/portraits will make a great pair

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]

« on: August 05, 2012, 02:46:51 PM »

The 1ds2 was better than the 1ds3 at iso 800? I never knew that! Being that it was geared toward studio was the low iso cleaner on the 1dsm3?

Sorry - I meant the 1Ds2 is better that the 5D2 to iso800

It gives very different colour rendition than the 1Ds3 - probably I would guess as it is only 12 bit. Of course the 1Ds2 is only 16mp, but then so is the 1D4

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EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III

« on: August 05, 2012, 02:27:29 PM »

Im telling you straight, I just had a 1DS 3 and now have a 5D3, trust me the 5D3 is way better I mean by miles!

In what way do you think it is better?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]

« on: August 05, 2012, 02:23:00 PM »

Given that i have the 5d1 and the fact that the focus system on the 5d2 was identicle, id say i would shoot a wedding with a 1dsm3 way before the 5dm2 for focus points alone. Saving time composing with center point and then re-composing would be worth it alone. On another note the 1dsm3 had a higher level of sharp detail hence why it is an incredible landscape camera.

The 1DS3 is better than the 5D2 as an all-round camera until you wanted to shoot over iso800. Even the 1Ds2 is better to iso800.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III

« on: August 05, 2012, 02:15:27 PM »

I am leaning towards lower ISO's higher quality files, I have a 5 Mark II, its nice does decent up 1600, 3200 requires careful attention to exposure but it leaves me wanting a better ISO 100. Landscapes and portraits are my bigger concern. Color rendition is important also.
Thank you to the two people that have taken the time to give thoughtful and detailed responses.

Ok, I see your situation now.  If you keep your 5D Mark II, you'll notice a drastic, and very noticeable improvement in color rendition, accuracy, saturation, at ISO 50-400 in the 1Ds3 over the 5D2.  I shoot the 1Ds3 in Portrait mode, and I just absolutely love it.  It's pretty magical in those ISO ranges and I have not observed any banding in the shadows yet.  So yeah, you'd have your range covered with the 1Ds3/5D2 combo. 

The other thing is the metering accuracy of the 1Ds3 over the 5D2.  When I import RAW files the camera got it exactly right, whereas I cannot say this for when I owned the 5D2.

+1 - 1DS3 is still tops for low iso and particularly good for portrait colour rendition