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Probably will not know until Monday or Tuesday.  Those specs don't seem to get leaked.

I wonder, why the primary specs have been leaked. And from whom. Are they really true?
There are still some surprises possible. (Personally I do not expect surprises)

Is this relevant for focusing speed? (E.g. Supertele+Extender @ f/8)

If no, then it's pretty irrelevant for the target audience because the sensor is too small for low light action shots.

Mr. Neuroanatomist says not (as I he answered on one  postings regarding to the F8 topic)

Yesterday there was an interesting film report on German television on the coming Photokina.
There will be a lot of releases, a lot of new products...
Interesting was an statement on the future of photography and filming from an japanese  fotographical association: mirorrless gets better (AF, IQ). More development and research on ML Cams and opimized lenses. Product renewal frequency will be 1-1.5 years.
DSLR: cheap and middle priced cameras will loose market to Handycams and ML cams. trend to high quality cams is stable, but costs of development and research will visibly increase the price of those products in the next years. Product renewal frequency will sink.

And: Joint ventures will increase. And the specialisation of development and research on specific items. (like Sony: sensor, pentax or some other brands on AF systems.... Only Canon will not join other companies. Nikon will buy sony sensors and maybe some other parts for ML cams.

The sum of minor improvements creates a nice package

So the D750 which uses a recycled sensor and has some improvements is a nice package, but the 7DII which (probably) uses a recycled sensor and has some improvements...no reason to buy that.  Whatever.   ::)

Maybe the reason for this behavior is, that the exprected pressure that the 7DII has to be a stellar succesor to the 7D is very very high. And now some of us are dissatisfied, because of not meeting their needs and expectations.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 12, 2014, 05:10:09 PM »
Come on guys, we´re on page 40 now. Let´s have an ambition to keep it going past 50 before the end of the day. Still lots of unused off-topic arguments and insults to throw in :)
I looked at Mr. Sporgons HP and found some incredible good looking pictures. 3 pages have been written in meantime. If there are other good HPs, please tell me! Then I will look in this topic again and we will be @ page 50.
Now we know how fanatism is created  ???

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 12, 2014, 04:09:04 PM »
There's a reason Canon doesn't use Sony sensors.  It's bad for having a competitive edge, like Apple oursourcing their LCD parts to Samsung, which resulted in Samsung turning around and becoming their largest competitor using the same tech.  Canon's a little behind on their R&D, or they're with-holding it for some reason we're not completely aware of, and I think frustrations from people on both sides - those who are tired of this, and those who are tired of the vocalness of the first group - are what's causing the animosity.  Some statements from both sides, name-calling or those threatening to jump ship and saying controversial statements that Canon is basically going to die / isn't competitive anymore are what feeds the fire.

I totally understand why Canon doesn't outsource sensor production to Sony.  I meant more "Sony equivalent".  I honestly do not care at all about the argument or taking sides on it because, as I said, Canon is doing what I want it to do for what I shoot, for the most part.  I'm just getting super exasperated with a couple people here straight up denying reality.  Its like watching an evolution or climate change debate.

You are definitively right with purchased sensors!
It is not like in computer business, where you earn enough money to build a new chip factory after some month.
On the other hand, I can understand, that some of CR´s are dissatisfied as other manufacturers do produce Cameras that are superior in specific facts and Canon does not meet this. And Canon is willed to maximise their profits, maybe to finance other developments. Why build a new factory, when we still can sell the current sensor?  Or maybe it is true, that Digic 6 is not able to hande 24MP plus (heared at an Nikon workshop)?

Wait for the real announcement and see what not menioned features are insid this body.
And wait for the first real reviews on the product. THEN we can discuss, if this product meets our needs - or not.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 12, 2014, 03:21:25 PM »
1800$ confirmed?

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon announced D750
« on: September 12, 2014, 09:08:47 AM »
This is the kind of camera that makes people change systems.

Maybe a little will change but not many.
some D700 and D300 users will feel this is not real replacement to them, 1/4000 top shutter speed and flash sync only 1/200, No AF-on button, body style.
This is more like D620, upgrade from D600/D610 to D750.

This camera will kill the sales of the newly announced D610, which killed the newly announced D600 few months earlier. It's a good competitor to the 6D though, and I hope Canon's 6D Mark II will have a real focusing system, not that desperate 1 cross type point one.

True, but let we wait the real world testing on real camera. I think Canon purposely give 6D the simple feature to not compete with their own advance model like 5D3 and 70D.

Yes, typical Canon... you can get a feature-packed 7DII and (presumably) IQ quality not far off from a 2010 Rebel, and live with it for the next 5 years. Or you can get a 6D with great IQ but with autofocus from a 2010 Rebel. If you want both IQ and features, you need to fork out another $1000-$1500 to move up to the 5DIII.

At least on paper, this seems to be a fantastic all-around camera, at a good price.

+1 from me. The financial analysts at Conon know how to do their work!

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:05:39 AM »

Thanks. I honestly have no vendetta against Canon. I think most of the Canonites here have lumped me in with "the rest" because I'm not raving about everything Canon anymore. I want what I want, but that doesn't mean I'm going to diss Canon for everything they do. They still make great cameras...however they are falling very, very far behind on that one critical front: raw sensor IQ.

Play with a few Exmor raw images, compare them to pretty much any Canon raw image, and you'll start to see the differences. At first, you don't think it's significant...then you really start pushing exposure around, or you do just a little NR and see a huge improvement even deep into the shadows. Or you even just compare the midtones...and realize how much more color fidelity the Exmor image has without any adjustments at all (this is the wax-works that LTLRI refers to...Canon images, when you get right down into them, have a slightly grayish appearance...it's a lack of color fidelity that images from say a D800 simply don't have...the D800 colors are very rich. My suspicion is that Canon's weakened CFA is bleeding color channels...greens are mixing into reds and blues and vice versa, resulting in more washed out, less pure...and therefor grayish and "waxy"...color.)

I really wish Canon would fix the problem...and if/when they do, I'll be the first in line to pre-order and buy their new high mp, high DR camera when it hits the street. I just...kinda, don't think they will...not for a good long while. :\

There is really an difference in IQ. It is a pity that Canon does not respond on this

Report @ Dpreview:

Nikon seems to recycle the D610 sensor....

"The D750 features a 24MP CMOS sensor with an AA filter, and although Nikon (as usual) claims that this sensor is 'newly developed' it is probably based on the same sensor that we've seen in the D610 (and Sony A7)...."

cited from: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d750/3

"The D750 inherits a version of the 51-point Multi-CAM 3500FX AF system that we've seen used in the D800/E and D810 but its 'II' version is actually more sensitive - rated down to -3EV. We haven't been able to really get a feel for how much difference this makes in normal use but in theory, the D750 should offer superior AF reliability in poor light compared to the D810 and D4S, which is quite something (and which might prompt more than a few D800 owners to 'upgrade' to the D750). "
cited from: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/nikon-d750/3

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 07:25:03 AM »
These specs looks pretty nice to me...especially at $1800.

In good lighting conditions, this camera should perform on par with a 1dx.

I hope you are right @1800$...

Cameraegg rumored 2199....

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 07:21:03 AM »
There are some questions that will be answered in a few days(Price, sync time,...).

I expect DPreview to bring out an pre-test with some test shots a few days after announcing.
And then let us wait how good test magazines and YOU will tell us how good it is - and if it is worth buying.
The AF system & AF @ F8 is pleasing, but who knows how consistent the whole body works and how improved the Sensor is.

The specs alone are only in some point exiting. But let us see how it performs in pratical use.

I personally expected an new sensor. And I will see if Canon meets the coming products from Sony and so on  in 2015. The rumors expect faster (AF&fps) bodies and new lenses... And what do i expect? An really good and evolved 5DIV

EOS Bodies / Re: New 7d2 Embargo Date?
« on: September 09, 2014, 01:24:46 PM »
A friend of mine works as an senior salesman for an very big German photographic&electronic business chain. He is invited for an exclusive CPS meeting the day before Photokina opens.......

Most of the year in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany. In autumn in Dürnstein, Wachau. (Ösiland)  ;)

EOS Bodies / Re: A Rundown of Canon at Photokina
« on: September 09, 2014, 03:43:34 AM »
Wonder how much the 400 f4. I'm hoping for a price within reach (3-4k).

The old 400 DO IS is about 6800€ in Europe. Let us rumor: 7500-8000€ for the successor

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