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At least the Canon portrait model is prettier than the Nikon one.  ;)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: EOS 6D sample images and video here
« on: September 17, 2012, 07:20:18 AM »
Well, I can say that Image 5 (Portrait at ISO 200) is a definite win. I rate it at 10/10.  ;)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 07:15:33 AM »
Get a 5D2 for less than these 2 new FF cams.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 6D with "Fixed Pentaprism"
« on: September 17, 2012, 07:14:45 AM »
It means the pentaprism cannot be removed and changed. My old Nikon F3 SLR has a removable and changeable pentaprism. That spec wording is archaic now since AFAIK no DSLR has a changeable pentaprism, even the 1-series.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 12:29:11 AM »

6D has built-in flash or this is a very good chop???  :o

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 12:07:20 AM »
If you have to ask, you don't need it. Don't worry about it. Worry about the other cripple-ware.

EOS Bodies / Re: Adorama is Taking Pre-Orders for EOS 6D
« on: September 17, 2012, 12:05:48 AM »
Well, to be fair, crApple has played the same Canon game ("pay more for less") and it hasn't stopped the bandwagoneering, carpetbagging stock market analysts to continue to pump&dump their shares in anticipation of blockbuster sales numbers. Unfortunately for Canon, the consumers in this gadget segment aren't as tech-ignorant.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:47:07 PM »
I think we should withhold judgement until we see IQ and noise control from this 20.2 megapixel sensor. Because in the end, isn't that what really matters?

Let's say it's stellar IQ... as good as the 5D3 (it won't be better, Canon's not going to put their best in a 6D and second best in the 5D3).   Then so what?  It's a great sensor in a hobbled body for $2k... who's buying it?

The price gap is too large to entice an average consumer up from the Rebel line.  And the features are not up to spec for working pros.   There is no question that it's an entry level FF... but what are the features (other than the sensor) that make this better than a 60D?  And if the only benefit over a 60D is the sensor... then how many customers are going to pay that much more for a FF sensor when the vast majority of Rebel customers don't even know the difference.

Guy walks into Best Buy to buy a Canon DSLR.   Salesperson shows him a 60D for $900 and a 6D for $2000.  Same body and specs but 6D is FF... what's the customer going to buy?  Is the salesperson going to be able to explain the benefits of FF... many of the salespeople probably don't even know themselves.

Sure there are many folks on CR reading this right now salivating that they can get a FF camera for $2k.... but nobody on here is an average consumer... we are all camera enthusiasts reading up daily on how great FF is... so the person this is targeted for is a person that is lusting after FF, is unwilling/unable to pay $3500 for a 5D3, and doesn't need the AF and speed of a 7D.  How big is that market?

I disagree on your assessment of this body.  While I agree many people are underwhelmed by this offering, let's keep in mind that Canon is still in "catch up mode", trying to deal with how it will respond to the D800.  This was likely in the pipeline long before some high MP body was conceived, and I think it fits in to the Canon lineup quite nicely.

That said, I think this body has a place in the toolbox for many working pros.  I, for one, would much rather have an affordable full-frame back-up body for events/weddings.  Don't get me wrong, the 7D has worked as a solid back-up for me thus far, but it has left a lot to be desired in the realm of low-light situations where AF and noise management are critical.

With the ISOs and (most likely) reduced noise over the crop-sensor of the 60D, this will become a go-to back up for budget conscious pros.  I think it will be immensely popular with pros, and enthusiasts who are just looking for a little "more."

You and other pros use SD cards???

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:26:59 PM »
At least the Maximum shutter speed is 1/8000  ;D

I'd trade that for a 100% VF and a 1Dx-class VF blackout time and shutter release lag time any day! See D600/D800 specs.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:25:25 PM »
Delay, quality issue, quick price drop (indication of overprice?), boring new product, .... Something is not right. I give two thumbs up to their lens department, but the 1DX and 5D3 might be the last two cameras that (arguably) beat their competitors if they let arrogance and lack of innovation take over.

Ah whatever, they will do what they will do. I was afraid of this already like half a decade ago.

As someone said at least they have released some utterly kick ass lenses the last few years.
If only their sensor and body division would act with the same drive and pride!

There's an image that i'm thinking of, that describes exactly what canon have become in the last few years, after the groundbreaking successes of the 1Ds and the 5D2 went to their heads...

Also reminds me of the latest "new release" from a certain fruity company. Overpriced and under-spec'ed.  ::)

EOS Bodies / Re: Adorama is selling 5d3 for $2745 on eBay now
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:22:19 PM »
Darn, by the time I saw this thread the price has already gone back up to US$3459! They sold 818 units at $2745, it was almost like one body bought per minute!

EOS Bodies / Re: Describe the 6D in one word...
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:00:21 PM »
One sentence: Death knell of APS-C DSLRs above the Rebel line.

Woops, it is still $2000, not $1400, tsk.  :P

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:09:29 PM »
As usual, Canon found a way to unreasonably cripple it to upsell us the 5D3. 97% VF on a $2K camera??? Really? SD cards only??? This is a $1500 camera, nothing more.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 09:59:33 PM »
Canon 6D==iPhone 4.2 5.

Nikon D600/D800==Nokia Lumia 920

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 09:45:56 PM »
SD cards, only 11-pt AF with 1 cross-type, 97% VF coverage, this pales in comparison to the similarly-priced D600. I wonder why they would expend so much development costs when they should have just dropped the price of the 5D2 to $1500 and the 5D3 to $2500.

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