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5D mk3 IQ vs  5D mk2  IQ i'm going to say
15 to 20% worse, so far i'm really not happy with the images
maybe I got a bad unit but for a pro camera its pretty bad
I love the build, handling and features though

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark iii focusing issues
« on: March 26, 2012, 06:04:29 PM »
this sounds like what I am experiencing with focusing, vastly different results at different ranges  :'(

I don't know if RRS has developed a plate for it yet but they are the ones I would wait for.
I made the mistake of using a generic that did work but it twisted and had awkward access to the pc terminal and cable release port.

I switched to the RRS version and could not be happier. It is rock solid, allows me to use my pc cords and cable release easily AND creates a strap attachment point that actually improves on Canon's (IMO).

I have the RRS on pre-order they said they are going to be available end of april

EOS Bodies / Re: MkIII for Manual Focus Primes?
« on: March 26, 2012, 07:38:11 AM »
Would you buy a 5D3 if you are using MF alt primes, predominantly on low ISO with tripod if dark, with off camera 580 II, and (I am sorry) if you don't have one single AF lens?
Just for the colors, noise?, features and built?
I shoot non pro, just for fun, no weddings, no sport, no cars, just life.
I am coming from a 40D, now almost on the trigger for a 5D2 and wonder if someone thinks this is nonsense.
Ah, BTW I am a typical amateur and have the money for a MkIII ;)
Yes, I'm just not sure about the IQ yet

any point hoping for a rebirth of APS-H in the mirrorless? :P

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Silent mode on 5DmkIII
« on: March 26, 2012, 07:19:37 AM »
it's awesome much better than the 1D silent mode which isnt bad either

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 26, 2012, 05:58:34 AM »
perhaps i am splitting hairs or maybe in this case eyelashes

first image is dpp preview crop screen shot
second image is acr6.7 crop screen shot

shot at f2.8 1/500 sec ISO 100 AWB
these are 100% crops
obviously 5D mk3 and lens is the 50mm f1.4 canon

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:56:01 AM »
[Suggest you go to the Canon Learning Center....a number of wrieups by Rudy on 1DX and 5D3 AF....should help you get as good with new system as you seem to be with the 1Dmk3


thanks for the tip I read the article, sounds perhaps that my standard method of using single point AF might be the problem and focus is getting lost as the model walks towards me with AF points not handing over to other points properly, from his description this area AF might be a good solution, i'll give it a try. It seems the new AF system is vastly more complex than the system i replaces and there is a bit of a learning curve with it.

Lighting / Re: 580ex II or 600EX-RT
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:25:14 AM »
Soooooooo overpriced. You can do ETTL with Phottix Odins and a couple of 430 EX IIs. You can put the two 430s together and get a way faster recycle or separate them for more flexibility. If you want more of the Canon system you have to buy more overpriced 600s. Crazy.

One Canon flash and one transmitter is $1000!!!!

One Odin transmitter + 2 receivers + 2 430 EXs = $1000.

Additional Canon flash = $630
Additional 430 EX II + receiver = < $400
Additional 580 EX II  + receiver = $590

Not to mention it's not hard to get Canon flashes used.
basically what he said

I have the odins they are really nice to use and the transmitter has a nice on screen interface where you can quickly adjust power of groups, group balancing etc

EOS Bodies / Re: So frustrated with new 5DmkIII - returning it!
« on: March 26, 2012, 02:00:06 AM »
oh dear I'm going to be testing the 580s tonight! I've only done some test shots with a 600 I borrowed from someone so far!

i have been blown away by the low light focusing on the 5Dmk3
it does slow down considerably but it actually locks on and is accurate
heres a little 3200 sample

EOS Bodies / Re: Does new DPP have a bug?
« on: March 26, 2012, 12:24:35 AM »
is anyone else noticing that ACR6.7 is softening the images compared to the DPP quickview as well.
currently there is no reliable way to process images from the 5D3 to equal the output of the 5Dmk2 :(
Its all a plot to make us smile even harder when the software does exist lol.
I certainly hope you are right

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:53:54 PM »
I never do jpeg.  Raw results using DNG 6.7RC to LR 4 are giving great results. 

are you able to post a sample?
do you have a 5D2?
if so is ACR6.7 giving you results as sharp as the 5Dmk2 does?

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:40:11 PM »
This really surprises me. I just read in another post that you are using f/1.4 lenses. Thats an extremely thin DOF your working with there. Unless something has changed, don't Canon cameras AF at maximum aperture? I would be very surprised if you had GOOD luck with even the 1D X AF with its 100k RGB intelligent meter and an f/1.4 lens. You should slap on an f/2.8 lens, an f/4 lens, and an f/5.6 lens, and let us know how AF works then. I would hope the double-cross type sensors with the f/2.8 should nail focus perfectly every time. I'd expect the other 36 cross-type points to do extremely well keeping focus on a moving subject like a bird, a cyclist, a car or a basket ball player at f/4 and f/5.6.
I was using fast lenses but had them stopped down to f2.8 for shooting. typically when using AI servo I dont like to go wider than 2.8 for this reason

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:36:48 PM »

1) Are the raw files just soft, or terrible in other respects?

2) Is it the smearing of the details that makes the jpegs so bad?

I hope this is just an issue with the DPP software.

1) Raw files in DPP preview look sharpand show lots of detail, when i preview in bridge with ACR6.7 installed they are noticably softer and editing in DPP much softer, opening in PS also softer than the DPP preview. Colour all looks really good, The detail has to be in the file, as it displays in the DPP preview so i'm not too concerned about the senor being a lemon. I feel its almost entirely related to the processing software not being right rather than a sensor thing.

2) the jpegs look awefull IMO, like heavy handed NR is being applied to iso100 files. sure NR the hell out of 25600 iso images in camera but there should be 0 NR applied to iso 100 jpgs. If i took a 5D2 raw file at iso 100 in topaz denoise and applied an overall noise reduction value of maybe 60 this would be similar to the jpegs out of camera, my typical use of denoise values are around 20-30 if i'm correcting 1600 iso to 3200 iso, i may sometimes pop a value of 5 on a portrait as it does a nice job cleaning up skin in a very subtle way that is not noticable as being post processed. (these are observations based on the standard settings the camera comes with, I dont work with jpegs at all other than to flick to people for a quick preview and usually i will downsize those to 1024x768 anyway if i'm going to email them. On my 5Dmk2 i record medium jpegs which are 10MP for this purpose on my 1Dmk3 i leave the jpegs full size which is also 10 or 11 MP.

Overall I'm very glad I didnt sell my 5D2s just in case, I really hope these issues get resolved soon as I'm going to china soon and really wanted to put this thing through its paces. At least i know i can rely on the 5Dmk2s anyway. I wont be shooting any paid work with the 5Dmk3 untill i'm 100% happy it can meet the 5Dmk2 standard though.

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