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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5dII vs 5DIII Studio shot
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:51:58 PM »
I am not sure the III is out performing the II at 50 ISO. The III seems to lack detail compared to the II.

This is what I'm seeing also, clear as day. I still hope that it is because of the raw converter, maybe even the release candidate of ACR is doing something wrong with the 5D3 raws? Canon dpp shows the 5d3 files way less detailed than 5d2 files, as you can see here: http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-DSLR-Camera-Review.aspx
the DPP preview is sharp its only once you start processing the detail disapears. The DPP preview is noticably sharper than ACR 6.7

EOS Bodies / 5D mk3 - A few complaints
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:44:43 PM »
So i've been snapping away wildly all weekend with the 5Dmk3 and there are a couple of things that bug me
overall the build and handling are significant steps up but there is some silly stuff going on.

1 - The rate button, probably the single most useless button I have even seen on a camera EVER, which would be fine if you could assign it a usefull function instead such as a bracketing button like ever 1D has had since the 1Dmk1 remember that good ol 4MP kodak sensor? its nice to just hold a button down and scrollt he wheel bringing up the bracketed stops. having to go into the menu to enable bracketing on a PRO body is just plain lame. This could easily be fixed with a firmware update to enable assigning of more functions to that button
as for rate and protect the whole 2 features you can choose this button to perform, very underwhelming. As it is this button is a total bull tit.

2 - out of camera Jpeg files are horrible, accross the board there is far too much smearing going on they are well and truely overcooked, mushy and about as sharp as a bowling ball. I like to have medium jpg files writing to the SD card so i can just pop it out to give someone quick access to the pics without jumping through all the raw processing hoops. As it stands I'm really not going to give anyone these jpegs so i've turned it off all together until an update comes out.
This is particularly concerning because all the talk from the marketing machine talked up how all the improvements of blah blah stops is based on jpegs. If this follows through to the 1Dx there are going to be alot of unhappy people with $6500 less in their pocket.

3. RAW processing, I'm a bit amazed that none of this was sorted out prior to release, neither DPP or adobe are producing satisfactory results. The only way i can even see the detail i'm chasing is in DPP preview.

4. AF isnt as good as i was expecting in AI servo but I'm still playing with it (there are lots of settings to play with and test) so i'll have to reserve judgement on this but as for just turning it on and shooting with AI servo in standard mode the 1Dmk3 still eats it alive both in speed and accuracy :(
Perhaps I am doing something wrong maybe 7D users have some tips on getting the most from these new AF systems in AI servo.

EOS Bodies / Re: So frustrated with new 5DmkIII - returning it!
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:21:06 PM »
Me too!  I was having such high hopes!  Hopefully a different unit will be better!
I'm very keen to hear how you new unit goes because so far I'm concerned about the IQ of the images too
I'll probably wait unti proper raw converters are out before i look at taking it back
I think canon need to get a firmware update out STAT that fixes the horrid in camera jpeg processing too
I think i'd be happier with jpegs out of a rebel than this thing puts out

Lenses / Re: Best third-party lenses
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:15:36 PM »
The OP was asking about primes in particular. I have waded through a raft of 50mm glass over the years and have settled pretty comfortably with a Sigma 50 f/1.4. As I shoot people and like to include action, AF is very important to me. However if I was inclined towards more static subjects, and had ultra IQ as a very high priority, then a Zeiss manual focus lens would be appealing.

For general shooting, Sigma seems to have a very strong range of viable alternative glass to the Canon/Nikon offerings.

Paul Wright

What is your opinion of the sigma 1.4 vs the canon 1.4 especially at f1.4 to f2
I've been wondering if the 50 siggy is as good as the 85, the 50 is an older design though isnt it?
I wonder if sigma will update the 50 to the same level as the 85, if they did that i'd find it hard to resist getting one.
I find the canon not so good wide open but once its down to f2 its improving and its very sharp by f2.8
I'm really hoping for an update

EOS Bodies / Re: How to Edit 5D MK III Raw files in Lightroom(Windows)
« on: March 25, 2012, 07:11:29 PM »
I am concerned as the preview in DPP is significantly sharper than the same file viewed in bridge or opened in ACR 6.7 I really hope Adobe sort this out ACR seems to soften the image detail just is gone that is clearly visable in DPP preview then there is the actual processing in DPP smearing images.

I am really unhappy with the out of camera jpegs they are smeared horribly even iso 100 looks like an extreme amount of NR has been applied to them.

I dont think there is a problem with the sensor or the camera as the images look fine in DPP preview so the detail and information is there. There is just no where to actually process the files properly at this point in time

I couldnt agree more about the manual focus. I just discovered last night if you put your lens in manual focus and hold the shutter button while focussing when in focus to the point you want it will flash red letting you know it has achieved focus. Really cool feature!
yep i noticed that too and the veiwfinder is sooooo much better for manual focus, I'm not really worried about changing screens in this one it has a much more 1D feel to it for MF

I thing the ACR6.7 shows up even softer
the out of camera jpegs are so bad i've just turned them off all together.

My initial feeling about the files is they are not as good as the 5Dmk2 however its to hard to call until proper raw converters come out.

I really dont know what they have done to the in camera jpg output but its not good

i've not processed any files yet just view in DPP and bridge and open in PS but the adobe ones are noticably softer than the dpp preview

ah gotcha

personally i find shooting in M the fastest way with shutter speed at my finger tip having to press a button for ec takes too long

I havent actually even tried auto iso on the mk3 yet

so much to try out so little time :(

Lenses / Re: Best music/concert photography lenses?
« on: March 25, 2012, 04:58:54 AM »
Ok, out of these three lenses which one is best? (to use right in front of the band, below stage). Ive got a 7d

* 35mm
* 50mm
* 85mm

I'm thinking the 85mm is way too long but I like how it's one of the fastest out there with f/1.2

2 bodies 35mm on one 85mm on the other problem solved
you are really going to want to get some nice tight crops and even the 85 on a APS-C is going to struggle for reach
depends on how much access you have.

the 135 f2 might even be a good long option, but i would say with the crop body start with 85 and 35

faux m mode?

In humans the nose grows throughout your life so large noses are associated with older people.

keeps growing! damn i am doomed... I wonder if they make eye piece extensions for people that are geometrically nasally challenged

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Manual Mode 5D mark iii
« on: March 25, 2012, 04:47:01 AM »
Learn exposure and how to shoot in manual mode and never look back.

i wish i had an applaud button to hit repeatedly in agreement with you here

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Mother of God - D800 scores 95 DxOMark
« on: March 25, 2012, 04:43:15 AM »
i would have read all of this thread but i've been out all weekend shooting with my 5Dmk3 ;)
since i don't really follow the lab tests or particularly care about them for that matter, 95 is good is it?


Your best skill seems to be name calling in laughable manner.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
You are kind of a funny guy. ;D

Believe it or not you are not the only person who has ever used a camera. I've shot the men's NCAA basketball tourney (and no, not from the stands :D) among other things.

And believe it or not I'm not the only person who thinks more dynamic range would be nice to have at times. And believe it or not, some of them are actually full-time pros.

And it's a bit hard to use reflectors to fill in the interior of a redwood forest, maybe for some scenes, if you spend 15 hours rigging and thousands in expenses for a single shot, perhaps, sometimes, but then try it for a landscape expanding over a a few hundreds acres and it's a bit trickier still and then try that for every single possible such situation you may come across anywhere and.... and yes, sometimes a tripod a multi-snaps will do and sometimes a grad ND filter will do it, but not always. especially if you want details and not a wax-look.

It's not the end of the world, but it's ridiculous to say it's pixel-peeping geek nonsense whenever it is something Canon is not best at, and absolutely critical when it's something Canon is best at.

Could you show us some work photographed by you ?
I have read most of your post and like I said before your really must be the best photographer in the world.
Just wondering if all your numbers knowledge can be found back in your pictures.
Not sure about the best but he is pretty bloody good at what he does IMO :D

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Manual Mode 5D mark iii
« on: March 23, 2012, 03:25:32 AM »
I have purchased the new 5d mk iii. which arrived today and have been testing it performance, especially the manual mode as thats what I shoot with the most.  I hoped there would be an auto ISO setting for manual, which there is BUT
why cannot I set an exposure compensation while in Manual mode with auto ISO?
I always use manual mode to control shutter and aperture.  I meter my exposures from my client's faces that are usually set at +1EV to accommodate light skin.  Auto ISO would allow me to keep up with rapidly moving children as ISO speed is not so critical as shutter and aperture setting for me.  I appreciate the new advantage of auto ISO that the mark ii did not have, but now my exposures will be a full stop under-exposed using the advantages of auto ISO with the mark iii
yep there was a big hooo haa about this the last couple of days i'll find the thread unless it got deleted because people got a bit excited

here you go

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