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EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS M with EVF Second Half of 2014?
« on: December 14, 2013, 12:54:01 PM »
Not sure I would have paid top dollar for the M. I swore I wouldn't get another small camera without a viewfinder or at least an add on. I just couldn't pass up the huge price drop to $299 with the 22mm lens. I love this little camera. If it had a fill flash and the option to turn off the touch screen it would be perfect for my use. But I still enjoy using it when I want to go nimble. It produces great images. Here are some from the other night all ISO 1600. The Theater at MSG.

really like your pics #2 and especially #3 ... great stuff! Congrats!  8)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 10D, 100D or 700D?
« on: December 13, 2013, 12:04:36 PM »
M (and M2 probably as well) AF performance not sufficient for intended primary shooting situation - social pics, mainly indoors (=usually low to very low light, people typically moving)
I'm guessing you've either never used the M and are drastically underestimating it's AF abilities or you've never hung around married women in a social situation and are overestimating their level of activity.

Most women get by just fine with a P&S or camera phone in this situation, the AF on the M is superior to either of those, even with the 22/2 which is great for low-light indoor pics (I should know, I use it for my 16 month old daughter).

AF on the EOS M is a dog and definitely not superior to anything. Good P&S cameras like the Sony RX100 II run circles around it. Of course also helped by the smaller sensor and its wider DOF.  And Nikon 1 AF beats EOS-M by miles, it can track moving subjects, M cannot.

"taking pics at parties" is what the TO mentioned as main use for wife's cam. While we don't know how mild or wild those parties usually are  ;D ... I would definitely not recommend an EOS M as the best camera "to take pics at parties".

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 10D, 100D or 700D?
« on: December 13, 2013, 07:02:38 AM »
In all honesty, the only opinion that matters is your wife's...
+1000. Take it from a guy who's been married three times. Your used cast-offs are not an acceptable gift. Get her a new camera and lens kit that is her's and her's alone. Even a 1Dx would be a bargain in comparison to the path you'll be heading down if you dust off some 10 year old camera and hand it to her.

+1000  :)

In an ideal Canon world, it would be so easy to answer this with "EOS-M2"...
  • very compact, "cute" and cool body ... depending on wife's colour preference in black, white or red ;)
  • sensor with very decent IQ ... in good light
  • good-IQ lenses available, compact and reasonably priced, especialy in kit
  • compact 18-55 kit-zoom with IS and even more compact, "cute" 22/2.0 WA prime
  • highly intuitive user-interface including touch screen
  • built-in WIFI, sharing of images possible, depending on how Canon has implemented it
BUT ... unfortunately this is ... Canon. EOS-M / M2 are no option, because ...  :'(
  • M2 not for sale in US, Europe and most of Asia
  • M (and M2 probably as well) AF performance not sufficient for intended primary shooting situation - social pics, mainly indoors (=usually low to very low light, people typically moving)
  • No built-in flash; separate flash unit no enticing option here

Therefore I'd go with SL-1 with 18-55 STM or possibly 18-135 STM if it's got to be a Canon and a DSLR.
EF-S 17-55/2.8 is a great lens (use it as my primary lens myself), but too heavy and big (basically same size as 24-105L) to be a good choice in this scenario.

Nikon1 J3 might be an even better choice. Small, very "cute", very good AF-performance, built-in flash, IQ "more than good enough" for intended purpose. Dirt cheap. WiFi available via WU-1b plug-in wart.

Or Sony 100RX II. Very compact & light, decent lens, decent IQ for intended purpose, flash and WiFi on-board. Might take convincing of wife and Jones' that it is not just another el-cheapo P&S cam, though. :-)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 7D Firmware 2.0.5 Now Available
« on: December 12, 2013, 06:13:49 AM »
Warning - The 2.0.5 firmware update is NOT compatible with Magic Lantern. It won't boot from a ML-enabled card at all. You can downgrade back to 2.0.3 easily enough, but if you're a ML user don't go near this patch.

oO ... so much for the "tinfoil hats" ...  :P

first user reports re. this problem: 
ML-Forum: http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=7503.2125
http://www.traumflieger.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52218&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight= [german]

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 7D Firmware 2.0.5 Now Available
« on: December 11, 2013, 08:33:55 PM »
Wow. The level of paranoia here is incredible. Was there a sale on tinfoil hats somewhere?

I do agree, however, that I'm not particularly interested in this update. But, I can also see why Canon did it if it affects its wireless file transmitter.

Of which they sold what ... 100 or 200? I know many 7d shooters myself, but not one who bought this cludgy wft brick. Must be a really tiny percentage of 7d users who might need this bugfix. Really makes one wonder if undocumented changes are also included in this fw update.

But feel free to test it, i'll be happy to get feedback. ;-)

No I think you have it wrong, the YN-E3-RT and ST-E3-RT can both be used as a receiver for remote shooting, but you can't use either as a trigger, that is certainly how the ST-E3-RT works, you need to use a 600 as the trigger, though another 600 can also be a receiver. The ST-E3-RT does not have the REL (release) option on the menu 2 scrolled interface, I expect the YN to be the same.

You need the cable to trigger pre 2012 cameras as they can't be triggered via the hotshoe,, just like the ST, ergo it seems the YN is the same as the ST.
ok - you're probably right, thanks.

Still a rather strange limitation if only the speedlite can be used as active remote trigger, but not the smaller, cheaper controller unit.

But I don't need a 500$ remote.
Are you sure Canon is the best brand for you :-p ?
I assumed you already have a rt system, thus the trigger cost actually is zero because it's built-in.

Yep, that's just another blatant example of marketing crippling by canon. 600ex-rt can remote trigger cameras, ST-E3-RT cannot.

Proof? The yongnuo ST-E3 apparently works as remote trigger.

Remote shutter release, Linked Shot (Need extra shutter cable for cameras released before 2012)


So first, you say that Canon sucks because they don't innovate.  Now, you're praising a third party company for copying Canon's innovation.   Do you wonder why people think you're a troll?

Canon sucks ... both, lack of innovation and even when they eventually innovate.. they're not making it available to their customer base quickly and in one go. But rather over a long period in ever so small incremental steps. Even when it is something as simple as e.g. Auto-ISO functionality. Or a radio-wireless flash trigger. 

So, some Chinese company has to step in, reverse-engineer the Canon innovation (presumably no "rocket science" involved) and bring a product with improved and additional features over the original Canon product. At a significantly lower price.

If Canon would be "innovative" ... it would not take a Yongnuo to bring Canon customers
  • Group mode on pre 2012 Canon cameras
  • no (possible) hit to X-Sync for pre-2012 Canon cameras
  • 2nd curtain sync over radio (though only in manual mode)
  • AF assist light
  • USB-port for easy firmware updates

Only feature missing in my book of desired flash functionality is direct control over zoom-reflector on radio-remote-controlled speedlites.

If Canon was innovative, they would already long ago have re-done their pre-historic and limiting wireless ETTL-protocol which inhibits 2nd curtain sync (and probably also contributes to HSS limitations). And they would be making and selling 430EX-RTs and EX-RT-receivers like hotcakes, even at inflated prices.

But they have again fallen asleep on the wheel and are being passed left and right by Chinese copycat companies like Yongnuo, Phottix, Pixel King ...

It is obvious, that Canon has become rather un-innovative, unwilling and unable to bring (even mildly) innovative products to market quickly. Not even when it would give them a strong USP, make their entire eco-system more attractive and deliver a lot of value to millions of (dearly) paying clients.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 7D Firmware 2.0.5 Now Available
« on: December 11, 2013, 08:33:33 AM »
I 'll wait and see first. 
  • If it really only fixes the bug listed in the descirpotion, I don't really need it.
  • If there are hidden changes, I would like to learn about them.
  • If there are hidden changes that cause compatibility issues with third-party gear I will skip it. See Nikon D5300 and DF issues with Sigma lenses and third-party batteries following Nikon FW-Updates. Those impacts were also not documented. I know, that is Nikon and here we talk Canon ... but still!

Group mode with pre-2012 Canon cameras ... YES Sir! Thanks to Yongnuo from all those 7D and 5D II owners!  8)

NExt up is the Yongnuo 600EX-RT speedlite and after that they hopefully go and make a dirt-cheap, 50 bucks a piece RT-trigger/receiver to integrate my existing and paid-for Canon 580EX/II and 430 EX/II speedlites [plus compatible speedlites] into a radio-wireless-controllled multi-flash ETTL setup.

This will really kick Canon in the butt and in the head. So well deserved!   8)

Also nice is the USB port on these Yongnuo devices (as opposed to the "original" products) so Canon cannot easily put Yongnuo gear out of business via secret changes in their secret proprietary communication protocol/firmware. At least not for very long. Brilliant!  8)

EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS M with EVF Second Half of 2014?
« on: December 10, 2013, 02:07:55 PM »
Same thing for the FF dreamers - Canon has designed these lenses with the image circle to cover the APS-C sensor, not FF.  Don't count on yet another line of canon lenses in this mount with the image circle large enough for FF.

Bracing the camera is fact.  Of course, the last two points is me reading the tea leaves - YMMV.

Canon will have to offer a range of FF mirrorless cameras with a shorter-than-EF-flange-distance. Plus new, native lenses. There will be much less pain than in the transition from FD to EF lenses, since EF to shorter-flange-distance can easily be bridged by adapters. So existing lenses do not use their functionality at once.

Only question is WHEN, not IF. I'd say they are not able to do it in 2014. By 2015 they might be.

EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS M with EVF Second Half of 2014?
« on: December 09, 2013, 04:43:46 PM »

Canon considers announcing another incrementally improved iteration of a marketing crippled small-sensored low-DR hi-banding very video-optimized very small EOS-M# maybe even accompanied by boring new lens (but not for sale outside Japan) in late 2014 already! 

Way to go Canon! You are the best. No other camera manufacturer could bring us such a marvel of innovation so soon. Not Nikon and most definitely not Sony.


It's just that most Europeans are smart enough to refuse buying sub-par products at grossly inflated prices.

Rubbish. Mirrorless cameras are simply not popular in Europe & N. America, regardless of brand and price. In Europe, for every mirrorless camera sold, 8.5 DSLRs are being sold. If you think Sony (or insert your favorite mirrorless camera manufacturer here, Olympus/Panasonic/Fujifilm etc) mirrorless cameras are selling well, think again.

Not rubbish. At 299 euro lots and lots of europeans - including many germans - would have bought an eos-m plus 22 lens. Unlile US citizens it was just never offered to them at that price. Probably canon thought europeans would be  more stupid. Or they were sitting on much less special treatment eos m waste around here.

Anyway, I would not buy an eos m1 or m2 no matter how low the price. but not because i consider a big fat mirrorslapper to be better than mirrorless cameras, but rather because the eos m comes without a viewfinder. :-)

I don't see from your pictures, with lens attached, how a 3% reduction in depth and 10% reduction width turns a dslr from 'huge' into compact. If anything it looks like it would take up nearly the same amount of space with lens  in the bag but have an inferior grip.  Less weight is nice, but when you are talking 900g vs 550g with lens, I think even the weakest person would be okay with either.

on the other hand, slap a 70-200 f/2.8 on both and I think you will see the ergonomics of the a7 fail big time!

yes, I agree to some point. I've deliberately picked the "worst possible view on size". :-)
In front or rear view one gets a better sense, just how much smaller an A7/R is compared to even the smallest FF DSLR, even with lens mounted. Much less obtrusive too (important to me for street shooting and other situations).   

Main issue are the lenses. Neither Canon nor Sony have the kind of pancakes/ultracompact lenses to go "small and light" - sole exception the EF 40/2.8 which I really like. The Sony FE 35/2.8 is ok for me sizewise, but not pricewise [not even with Zeiss written on it]. Unfortunately no wide angle pancake (e.g. 20/4) or ultra-compact tele (e.g. 85/2.8) on either side (yet).   

70-200 ... depends. I use it quite a bit tripod mounted ... then it will be just fine on an A7/R with adapter. Hand-held I'll have to try it, once I get my hands on an A7/R. Bigger issue for me is the (apparently) extremely slow AF (if at all working) via adapter ... and in poor light on top.

Reported A7/R shutter noise irks me as well. Was really hoping for a silent "concert cam". Looks like the mirrorslappin' 5D III in "silent" mode is a better option for that. Too bad! 

In all, I'd say the a7 is for anyone who appreciates having absolute top image quality but doesn't want to carry a huge DSLR. This could be anyone.

+1 exactly!

Sony A7/R compared to Canon EOS 6D (smallest Canon FF-DSLR)

Sony A7R + FE 24-70/4 OSS (SonyZeiss) = 895 g
Canon 6D + EF 24-70/4 IS                         = 1370 g
Size comparison: http://j.mp/1dDS5hu

Sony A7R + FE 35/2.8 =  527 g
Canon 6D + EF 40/2.8 = 900 g
Size comparison: http://j.mp/1dliIKV

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