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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-A1 with Hybrid EVF? [CR1]
« on: December 22, 2013, 08:42:52 AM »
@mkabi: all you and your video buddies need are better videocams/camcorders. So please go and ask manufacturers for better videocams. If you think Canon's C-### videocams are grossly overpriced or lacking in performance and features then ask Canon to make better ones and cheaper ones Or get yourself  a full-frame sensored Sony Camcorder with interchangeable lens mount for less than 3k. Unlike any DSLR it is perfectly suited to capture videos.

But please do not try to force ever more video-optimized crap upon stills photgraphers who may occasionally like to WATCH a film or video but have no desire whatsoever to MAKE videos/films with their cameras.

I have been unwantingly using "video-enabled" cameras for more than 10 years now. I had to pay for those video features that was forced upon me with no option to leave it out. And in all those years I have never ever captured anything other than a 15 second test clips with them, just to see if a new camera is fully functional.

I am also NOT interested in a video-optimized hybrid-EVF camera. What I want is a Sony A7R-killer from Canon: a very compact,  "stills-optimized" mirrorless camera with the best possible-IQ FF sensor (hi res, high DR, low noise up to very high ISO), an excellent AF-system [5D 3 or better], contemporary connectivity features [WiFi, GPS, Radio flash controller] and a highly efficient, easy to use "stills-oriented" user interface. Video? Well, yes - as a LiveView feed.

And instead of Hybrid EVF/OVF I want a truly hi-end EVF only. 4k resolution, no discernible lag, no black-out. :-)

So..what's the word?
This works well with the 600RT's as advertised?
Inquiring minds want to know!!

Inquiring minds may follow the link kindly provided in post #102 just 1 page back ... :-)

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 19, 2013, 08:43:51 AM »
How was the 50D I downgrade? Just curious. I can see the 60D, but 50D?
50D sensor was hardly a progress over 40D.
But you are right, I meant the downgrade with no AFMA ... that was 60D then right?

Canon only barely retained me as a customer in 2009, because they finally brought the 7D which I considered to be at least as good as the Nikon D300s. And because Nikon had and still has no stabilized 17-55/2.8 lens ... and still does not have one to the day. Without 7D - meaning something as lame as 50D or 60D - I would definitely have switched from my 40D to Nikon back then.   

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:52:26 AM »
Don't count on that happening, I wouldn't advise buying a 70d expecting an af feature update that brings it up to the 7d1 level - Canon is not in the habit of doing *any* updates on the xxd cameras, they're to be sold and used "as is".

exactly! "Upgrades" for Canon xxD users are available solely by purchasing a "new" (incrementally improved) xxD body. ;-)

And sometimes it turns out to be a downgrade ... 50D anyone?  :o

EOS Bodies / Re: Why do you want a FF Mirrorless?
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:39:30 AM »
Where do you think, will we be a year from now [year end 2014] regarding mirrorless FF?

I'll boldly go first:
  • Sony Alpha A8/R announced; 10 native Sony, SonyZeiss FE lenses available; A7 lowest street price USD 999 and A7R @ 1499
  • Canon - "development announcement" out
  • Nikon - "development announcement" out
  • Sigma - non-Bayer FF mirrorless available
  • Fuji - announcement out
  • Hasselblad - "Solar" and "Solar R" available at USD/€ 10,000 and 15,000 - with wooden grips

join in and we'll re-visit the thread a year from now!  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:26:13 AM »
in camera cropping or digital zoom is great with an evf so you see what you see is what you get. it would be splendid with a high mp ff mirrorless body. when canon makes a big mp ff body like the d800 then it should have a crop mode also, its better than not having it but you just get a crop square in the viewfinder. i don't know if there is a good way to change the magnification of what you see in the finder when you switch to crop mode?

Yes! Perfectly implemented crop mode with EVF is available. Sony A7 = 10MP in 1.5x crop mode, A7R = 15.3MP.
Canon would not even have to innovate. Just imitate. :-)

The two cameras are perfectly capable of using existing E-mount and A-mount lenses, and you have the choice as to whether the image is cropped. If you choose to crop, the resolution will drop to 15 megapixel on the α7R and 10 megapixel on the α7, and the equivalent focal length will increase by 1.5X. Sony also gives you the option not to crop and use the entire sensor, though this may lead to strong vignetting (and for most lenses, probably will).

The camera offers three options for its APS-C crop mode - Off, Auto and On. With it switched Off, you'll see Image 1 with a full-frame lens and Image 2 if you're using an APS-C lens. In the default, Auto, mode you'll get Image 1 or Image 3, depending on whether you're using a full-frame or an APS-C lens. And finally, with it On, you'll see Image 3, regardless of which lens type you put on the camera.

Image 1: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-7-7r/images/lensFF.jpg
full sensor area, uncropped frame (with FF lens)

Image 2 http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-7-7r/images/lensAPSCNoCrop.jpg
full sensor area, vignetted image (with APS-C lens)

Image 3: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-7-7r/images/lensAPSC.jpg
cropped viewfinder display, higher viewfinder magnification, cropped image [with APS-C lens]

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 135mm f/2 DG OS Art Coming? [CR1]
« on: December 17, 2013, 06:15:45 AM »
How do you improve on the 135L?

Well, I'd love to get any or all of the following improvements:

  • 100% more IS
  • 10% better IQ
  • 50% less price

It better be, considering they want to charge almost $1200 for it ... I'll be one of the first in line to get the Zeiss 24-70 f/4.

yep. will be interesting to see, how it will compare to the Canon EF 24-70/4 L IS ... MSRP are the same and streetprice will be similar too once the SonyZeiss gets to full availability.

After reading Roger Cicalas blog re. SonyZeiss FE 35/2.8 and its optical qualities I expect the 24-70 to be very good too.

EOS Bodies / Re: Why do you want a FF Mirrorless?
« on: December 17, 2013, 04:37:21 AM »
Excellent progress compared to last year I'd say. :-)

In one sentence: First ultra-compact, well-specced, hi-IQ mirrorless FF cameras available ... at surprisingly affordable prices. :-)

In more words:
  • Two mirrorless FF-sensored cameras available
  • Very attractive pricing on A7 and A7R
  • Excellent sensors, one model with (arguably) best sensor (res, DR) on market
  • Ultra-compact and light bodies, solid build
  • Useable fps and AF ... but not at DSLR level; no tracking, not for action
  • Very decent EVF ... but still XGA (not "retina"); still some lag; blackout between shots
  • Very decent feature set, UI, controls, ergonomics, WiFi
  • no in-body IS
  • no built-in flash
  • Poor battery charge
  • Shutter disappointing - mechanical, noisy, no silent mode, no high X-sync speed
  • two compact & light Zeiss primes available at launch - optically excellent, but not cheap
  • Kit-zoom available - not as small and good as hoped for, but reasonably low priced
  • Better Zeiss-Zoom 24-70/4 coming up soon
  • Adapters available, many brands/sorts of lenses usable
  • ...
  • Sony has delivered and seems set to deliver more ... see lens roadmap
  • Canon and Nikon still firm asleep at the wheel.

Yep that is what this is about. And better IQ!

wait for the SonyZeiss 24-70/4 ZE ... if it is as good as the 35/2.8 ... it might easily beat the 24-105. Except in focal length.

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 16, 2013, 12:35:42 PM »
The 7D was everything I wanted in a camera, except it wasn't FF. That's about it.
Isn't that where the 5DMkIII comes in? ;)

yes, quite possibly. If Canon had sold it at 6D price.  :-)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 10D, 100D or 700D?
« on: December 16, 2013, 10:16:42 AM »
Well, I followed your advice and took my wife to a camera shop ... she spent a few seconds looking at a 100D and 700D before losing interest and making a beeline for the CSC section ... she seemed to particularly like a Nikon 1 J2/3 with red body and matching red lens (because it was all red, her favourite colour and 'cute').

hehehe ... what did I say!  Definitely not a bad choice either. While IQ is no match whatsoever for EOS-M and SL-1 it is plenty good enough for party pics to go on facebook. Build-in flash and surprisingly good AF.  And can be found at low price. ;-)

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 15, 2013, 11:30:40 PM »
There's just nothing major that needs to be improved on the 5DIII.

My God, man, the DR...how in the name of all that's holy could you have forgotten about the abysmally horrible DR of the 5DIII?????????


now that you mention it!  ;D

But ... as we know ... DR is just for DRones. Real men expose correctly. Those funny image sensors don't really matter in digital cameras anyways. They're nothing but center-markers in those big fat DSLRs. Put in there so it's not only smoke and mirrors flapping around in all that empty space. It really is the camera surrounding that sensor that counts, stupid! 2 stops less DR than D800 at low ISO? Pah, utterly useless! Nobody uses those boring low ISO settings, ever! Real men will boldly shoot at ISO 3200 and higher, always! That will unlock the 5D III's full potential ... a whopping 0.1 stops more DR than D800. Now that's what counts!  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 15, 2013, 07:08:47 PM »
Preference for a well-specced 7D Mk. II with APS-C sensor is certainly not only an "individual preference" but definitely on the wishlist of quite a few people in this forum and many more outside of it. :-)

Both Canon (and Nikon) have delayed introduction of successors for their hi-end APS-C DSLRs for a very long time (Canon 4+ years, Nikon 3+ years)
meanwhile FF-DSLRs (6D, D6100/610), mirrorless FF cameras (Sony A7/R) are now available in the same price-bracket that a 7D II (or Nikon D400) would likely be launched into (USD/€ 1500-2000+) the target audience for a 7D has shrunk considerably. Especially "general use" enthusiasts and semi-pros on a budget are not waiting for the 7D II as much as they have waited for the 7D (when FF bodies were still considerably more expensive). By now, many Nikon D300/s users have moved on to D800 and (less so) to D600/610. Many Canon 7D users who never or only rarely experience focal length limited situations have moved on to 6D or 5D III. Or are seriously considering smaller/lighter (FF) mirrorless options (e.g. myself ... and no, I am not the only one with such an individual preference).

From my observation, target group for 7D II by now are mainly "action + reach-oriented "semi-pro/enthusiasts" and possibly some semi/pros who don't want to/cannot afford two 1D X bodies. However, this group is still large enough to warrant a 7D II, especially as long as Canon brings no higher MP / higher fps FF DSLR [5D IV] to market.  ;)

That's why I believe Canon will bring a 7D II rather soon in 2014 and a 5D IV only later (2015).

In addition to action-oriented/reach-limited users they will certainly also try to attract some video shooters on a budget lower than 5D III. Plus some "generalists / enthusiasts" who are happy with an (improved) APS-C sensor and willing to pay for a better body than 70D ... AND don't want to spend large sums to replace their existing EF-S lenses in order to go FF. Especially 10-22, 17-55, 15-85, 18-135 STM, 60 Macro ... these are very decent to really good lenses and to replayce them with equally good or better EF (L) glass ain't cheap. 100 L Macro, 24-105, 16-35 II or 24-70 II ... $$$-$$$$  :o

EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 15, 2013, 09:39:13 AM »
I am convinced canon will bring a 7D II. I expect it to be a modest iteration.
As un-innovative as they can possibly get away with!

24 MP sensor, only slightly better DR (+ 0.5 EV) and less banding/noise @hi-ISO (good to 6400)
dual-pixel AF with more than 19 but less than 61 sensors (45?)
9 fps
Some slightly better video crap, but not 4k raw
Built in wifi and GPS
Maybe built-in RT radio flash Controller
Articulated LCD, maybe touchscreen
USD/€ 2299

They will sell a decent number to sports/action/birders/wildlifers.
And buy them some more time for the transition to mirrorless.

It will be too little too late.

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