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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 12, 2014, 03:37:10 AM »
I don't think Canon knows who to sell this system to in the US and Europe or how they should position it.

I don't know if the market is big enough to sustain the system, but it's a great second or third camera for those with an investment in Canon.

it's insulting to assume that people aren't buying because they think bigger is better.  Canon marketing is pretty naive and uninformed if that is the conclusion.

+100 !

Exactly! Japanese managers have little  clue about euro and us markets. As evidenced  by their recent interviews on dpreview - all of them. Canon, nikon, fuji, sigma.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D MkIII buffer
« on: March 07, 2014, 07:14:46 AM »
I have to say that I do not agree about the SD slot being crippled.  If the camera has been designed to use UDMA 7 CF cards it should have also been designed to accomodate UHS-1 SD cards.  To the best of my knowledge the two specifications came out at about the same time. (Nov 2010 and May 2010 respectively).  As Canon built the ability to save file to the two cards into the camera they should have made it a realistic proposition.

Canon should have just put 2 UDMA-CF slots into the 5D III, rather than 2 different card formats. Most people who bought/are buying 5D III already have a bunch of reasonably fast to extremely fast CF cards.

Absolutely no need to build a consumer-type SD-card slot into a large, pro/enthusiast-oriented DSLR like the 5D III.

Only if Canon finally came out with a super-compact FF mirrorless cam [A7/R sized] with space really at a premium, I'd accept even dual Micro-SD-slots, of course UHS-II capable.  :-)

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 03, 2014, 04:19:27 PM »
Meanwhile, I suspect this post is closer to the truth than many around here would like:

http://soundimageplus.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/when-is-dslr-not-dslr-when-its-sony-a7r.html

Hehe ... Thats exactly where we stand today!  ;D

Thanks for sharing!

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EOS Bodies / Re: UPDATE: EOS M2 Not Coming to North America
« on: March 03, 2014, 11:50:48 AM »
Yes Canon is very sucessfull and know what they are doing. Thats why they dominate. Why would they come out with a really good mirrorless and I know they have the technology already. It will canabilize their sales on the DSLR market specially the Rebels.

Why? Because otherwise Sony, Fujifilm, Panasonic, Olympus and all others will cannibalize their Rebels and all of their other DSLRs with the possible exception of action-oiented models (1D-X)?  ;D

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while pbd and other reports are valuable and certainly raise a "caution" flag, we don't know yet, whether the Yongnuo YN-E3's suffers from
  • general design issues and/or
  • problems related to reverse-engineering of Canon technology involved and/or
  • quality control issues
or whether the rpeorted problems are "unfortunate, but isolated" ... as they also can occur in much more expensive OEM gear, including Canon.   

What concerns me a little lateley is the relative inactivity on Yongnuo's side.
  • Following launch of the YN-E3 there were firmware updates almost on a weekly basis, but that has stopped with FW v1.08 ... either because Yongnuo considers things to be "as perfect as they can be at the moment" ... or due to other reasons.
  • Yongnuo is still not giving a release date for its YN-600EX speedlite - announced in 10/2103 ... and they do not provide any reasons for the delay. Hardly any communication from their end. Maybe they did run into technical problems ... and/or Canon has started to bring down the legal hammer on them ... who knows
let's see how this story develops ...

For professional photogs in need of reliable gear, getting an original Canon ST-E3 along with the only RT speedlites available up to now [600EX-RT] has been and will be no big issue anyways. Especially if they are using 2012+ camera models ... as is the case for many, if not most.

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 02, 2014, 01:18:06 PM »
Sony needs to release uwa asap for a7 system. ...otherwise, it could be "dead end" as eos-m.

FE 16-35/4.0 zeiss/sony is next up for 2014 according to the roadmap.
http://photorumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Sony-lens-roadmap.jpg

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EOS Bodies / Re: UPDATE: EOS M2 Not Coming to North America
« on: March 02, 2014, 12:23:43 PM »
Make the Rebels mirrorless and keep the existing flange distances so you don't need an adaptor to use the existing lenses......

no no no. Make em small and thin. And include the adapter with every camera body at no separate charge.
That way, we can have it both:
  • small size with native lenses, for when we want to "go small" and
  • "regular size" with "regular lenses" when small size is not needed

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 02, 2014, 12:17:53 PM »
I'm sure the a7R is a lot faster with the wide variety of native lenses currently available.  ::)

yes it is. And given your level of technical understanding, I am sure you appreciate this, as you are undoubtedly aware of the technical challenges involved to achieve similar AF-speed with FF-lenses/FF-sensors compared to much smaller sensors. 

And ... looking at APS-mirrorless cameras, Sony A6000 and Fujifilm XT-1 show "very decent" AF-performance, including tracking-capability. Canon EOS-M? not at all. EOS-M2? neither.

And ... only 3 months after launch, 4 native lenses are currently available for Sony A7/7R

And ... 18 months after launch of the EOS-M? 3 native EF-M lenses ... only 2 for the US

And ... Sony has a roadmap showing which 15 native lenses will be available until 2015 and up to now they been delivering. Wouldn't it be nice to see such a roadmap for Canon EF-M lenses too?

And ... until then, the Canon EOS-M/EF-M is a rather "dead end".

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Canon General / Re: Review: Canon Speedlite Transmitter ST-E3-RT
« on: March 02, 2014, 05:39:41 AM »
So after using my YN-E3-RT in a pro environment for a few weeks I have to say, it sucks. Mine has been unreliable, with regular loss of communication, remote misfires, and very touchy menu interface that only happens when the thing is mounted on a camera.
I now have to take it off camera to make any adjustments to remote or menu settings, once the thing drops a flash you have to go very close to reconnect.
The thing is a frustration, when it works it is fantastic, especially on pre 2012 bodies, when it doesn't, I just want to throw it away. It is not in the same league of reliability as the Canon ST-E3-RT that I also own.

ouch ... too bad ... !
Thanks for sharing your first-hand experience!

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 02, 2014, 05:25:51 AM »
The extremly narrow EF-M lens-lineup could be overcome by a nice published road-map (like other makers who act much mor customer-friendly than arrogant CaNikon) and even more so by means of the existing EF-/EF-M adapter, IF AF-performance would still be "decent enough" with existing EF/EF-S lenses mounted via that adapter. Unfortunately this is not the case with the current EOS-M and for all I have read so far, neither with the M2.

WTF?
this shows you dont own the camera let alone have ever used it
I have no problems with the EOS-M using EF lenses via the adapter
i use the 16-35 or the 135L the most and AF is reasonable and accurate with both lenses
 ::)

All a matter of expectations I guess. If you are happy with this kind of AF-"performance"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBHhEEu7YuU
... I am not. :-)

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 01, 2014, 04:57:57 PM »

An EOS-M2 sized as is, but with 70D sensor (= with useable AF), priced like an SL-1 and a higher-end EOS-M3 equipped with best-in-class EVF, wheathersealing and RT-speedlite trigger, sized and priced like a Fujifilm XT-1 ... would be the only ticket for Canon to replace sales of all those rebels nobody will want to buy any longer a year or two from now ... maybe not even @ USD 299,- in firesales.


Excellent mirrorless cameras have existed for a while, but outside the far East it's *them* that "nobody wants to buy", in part, perhaps, because they're not cheap compared to APS-C dslrs.  The XT-1 is $1300, the OM-D E-M1 is c. $1400, the newest Panasonic will cost even more, and the next tier down from Fuji, Olympus and Panasonic are c. $1000 (most of them without weather sealing) - and that's body-only.  What's more, unless you spend a bit more and buy an Sony A7 (and are willing to work around the limited native lens selection), the image quality is no better than an APS-C dslr provides.  So unless small body size really matters, it's unclear exactly why anyone *should* prefer these alternatives.  I happen to like them a lot - Olympus OM-D and Sony A7/7r, at any rate - but for now it's pretty clear that I'm in a minority in this part of the world (apparently Fuji have yet to sell a million worldwide of all their X-series cameras put together).

Exactly. It is all about price and performance. Acceptable MILC performance has only come about very recently. And mFT will go under as soon as APS-C and FF_MILCs will start to flow, because the sensor is too smal, no matter what they say or do.   

We are entitled to the digital dividend. A camera like a (fictitious) EOS-M with the 70D sensor and capabilities and a first-rate EVF should still be 300 USD less to produce, because it has fewer parts and is so much easier to assemble, align and quality control without all that mechanical mirroslapping stuff in it and an off-sensor phase-AF system. Yet camera makers believe they can cream off their customers once again. That's why customers other than Japanese girls and 299 firesale-shoppers have not been buying all of those inadequate, overpriced mirrorless offers up to now.

There is nothing that supports a 799 MSRP for an EOS-M or 1300 for a Fuji XT-1 or  1400 for an Olympus OMD1. They should all be about half of those price points .. around where the Digital Rebel DSLRs are, and well below a 70D/D7200 pricepoint - for the same functional capabilities (except EVF vs. OVF).   

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EOS Bodies / Re: UPDATE: EOS M2 Not Coming to North America
« on: March 01, 2014, 04:49:01 PM »
Too bad the gauntlet has poor battery life, an AF system not suitable for tracking moving subjects, and comes from a company notorious for not delivering long-term support for its own product lines.   ::)

and yet ... as imperfect as the Sony A7/R may be .. Canon has not even been able to create any mirrorless cameras that could even remotely compete with them. Witness .. the EOS-M.

And just like Sony, Canon first created APS-C lenses with their own mount (EF-S) and then yet another mount and lens line-up for EF-M to match and take advantage of the shorter flange-distance of mirrorless cameras. That leaves Canon with currently 3 differnt lens- and mount types of which 2 look pretty much doomed ... and may be disabandoned soon enough: EF-M [unless Canon manages to revive that dead-end] and EF-S [dead end as soon as APS-C DSLRs will be gone for good] ...

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 01, 2014, 11:31:42 AM »
How do you know that??  Millions of people bought Rebel/xxxD cameras last year.  They plunked down their hard-earned money to buy very good and functional cameras that can take excellent pictures.  Millions more will do the same thing this year.  But you're saying they didn't want to, they had no choice, they were forced to spend several hundred dollars, for a product they didn't want, for a hobby?  Get a clue. 

It just baffles me how people can think that their own personal opinion is universally shared by everyone, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

You have your opinions. And I am entitled to mine. Just deal with it. I am sick and tired of your condescending and derogatory tone. Cut it out.   

My opinion is: Canon did give "limited budget" amateurs willing to spend no more than 1 grand for body + kit lens no choice other than Digital Rebels (DSLRs) ... and a very non-compelling, crippled EOS-M. Slow AF, no WiFi, no viewfinder, no built-in flash ... and a 2 or 3 "lens line-up". It only sold once it was dumped at USD 299,-  because it is such a limited camera "system".

As evidenced by APS-C MILC sales of other makers [most notably Sony and Fujifilm; possibly Samsung NX is also selling in Asia], a good number (many millions) of "Rebel-class" buyers would be more than happy to buy a more compact mirrorless Canon EOS, provided it is "fully competitive" - in photographic capabilities and in price.

It is really ridiculous that Canon does not offer this choice - desirable mirrorless vs. stale Rebel/Kiss DSLRs.
I consider it a huge mistake on Canon's part that they have no EOS M2 that matches Sony's A6000 or Fujifilm XE-2 all the way [sensor and AF] and no EOS-M3 that fully matches something like a Fujifilm XT-1.

The extremly narrow EF-M lens-lineup could be overcome by a nice published road-map (like other makers who act much mor customer-friendly than arrogant CaNikon) and even more so by means of the existing EF-/EF-M adapter, IF AF-performance would still be "decent enough" with existing EF/EF-S lenses mounted via that adapter. Unfortunately this is not the case with the current EOS-M and for all I have read so far, neither with the M2. 

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 01, 2014, 09:36:24 AM »
Who really wants that stream of completely uninspired annual iterations of the next tired "Digital Rebel mirrorslapper" with all their sorry little "mirror-prism"- OVF peepholes and no thumbwheel?

Apparently millions of people want that...  You may not, but you're in the minority.

Millions of people dide not really want it ... but were not offered anything else at prices affordable to regular income earners with photography being one of their hobbies.

An EOS-M2 sized as is, but with 70D sensor (= with useable AF), priced like an SL-1 and a higher-end EOS-M3 equipped with best-in-class EVF, wheathersealing and RT-speedlite trigger, sized and priced like a Fujifilm XT-1 ... would be the only ticket for Canon to replace sales of all those rebels nobody will want to buy any longer a year or two from now ... maybe not even @ USD 299,- in firesales.

As observed so often, Canon is again acting very shortsightedly. Re. APS-C MILCs. Not to mention re. FF-MILCs.

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EOS-M / Re: Is the canon eos-m a dead end system?
« on: March 01, 2014, 08:43:53 AM »
I recently used the EOS-M + 18-55 I STM & 22 f/2 lenses for my vacation in Australia and it was a great setup ... very light and easy to carry around without feeling the weight. But after having tried the Sony a7, I started looking into the Sony line of mirrorless cameras and am very impressed with them ... there are at least a couple of Sony mirrorless cameras that are priced similar to the EOS-M and do a far better job of auto focus, please their 16-50mm kit lens is far more compact  and wider focal length then the EOS-M kit lens i.e. 24mm (Sony) vs 28mm (EOS-M) ... but if you are used to Canon menu system, you will find the EOS-M a lot more user friendly (especially the touch screen) then the Sony menu system ... personally (despite the better menu system of EOS-M), I prefer the Sony mirrorless cameras, because they have far more native lenses, great in-camera apps, slightly bigger sensor and good tilt screen that come in very handy for mirrorless cameras.

It really is a shame, that Canon has not come up with a competitive EOS-M, forcing one to choose either IQ+AF-performance + lens-lineup (Sony, Fuji) or the truly superior and nicely-familiar Canon-interface.

At least the EOS-M2 should have come with the 70D sensor, plus full-speed AF also with EF-/EF-S lenses mounted via the EF/EF-M adapter and just a few more good EF-M lenses, e.g. a nice 'n sharp 10mm/4.0 "landscape pancake" and  a compact, decent 75mm/2.8 light portrait tele ... it would have really kicked ass. 

Plus announcement of a higher-end wheathersealed EOS-M3 with an even better EVF than the Fuji XT-1 ...

Canon would have been back on track to dominate the APS-C segment [DSLRs -> MILCs] for the next 10 years at least. And it would have put tremendous pressure on Nikon and Sony. But no ... sigh

Who really wants that stream of completely uninspired annual iterations of the next tired "Digital Rebel mirrorslapper" with all their sorry little "mirror-prism"- OVF peepholes and no thumbwheel?

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