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I really like Canon stuff. I´m a Nikon, Canon user. The two brands have their advantages. But here in this topic, what i´m seeing is an attempt to "fire down" the DXO Lab. So i brought a link for you to know how scientific the tests are done there.
Dude, for studio photos, landscape, advertising, portraits, food, the D800 blows the MK III out of the waterm it´s a matter o fact. For weddings, video, sports, journalism, wildlife the 5D MK III blows the D800. Like the D700 and the MK II , but this time switching "sides".
Lots of people test the way DXO does, I know a few guys that have remarkable testing facilities in their basements.
Your second paragraph is the issue, the D800 and 5D3 have completely different strengths and weaknesses as far as IQ goes, so how is their such a big gap in the "total score"?
My issue is not the results, my issue is how they weight results to get their magical number.
So DXO is the forbidden term now? Should we spell it D..O?
First K..n Ro..ell and now D..O.
haha, no you can still talk about them. I just want people to know I don't support this type of marketing by DXO.
I realize some may disagree with me on this topic, just trying to "keep it real".
The news broke on Nikon Rumors before it did here lol.
It was actually on this forum before Nikon Rumors, I just won't link DXO.
Numbers tests really bother me, because other people will use the DXO software and get completely different results. There will also be a range of results if someone is using Imatest. I've also seen the same person run DXO and Imatest and get different results.
The other issue is how they weight their score. By the looks of things, during the D3/D700 days, ISO performance was the major stat that that weighted the "total score", now it appears they weight it to dynamic range.
I've honestly wondered at times if anyone that does numbers testing like this has actually taken a photograph and looked at it with their eyes. The D800 is NOT a better high ISO performer, even if you down rez the D800 files, the 5D3 trumps it.
I've talked to 3 folks that do this type of testing independently, and all 3 agreed above ISO 800, the 5D3 is the clear winner in dynamic range, but the D800 beats the 5D3 at lower ISO.
These tests serve nothing positive to the community. If the 5D3 had a score of 291, I still wouldn't post it on the site.
Perhaps some good news, though I would still not treat this as 100% until we see the official response to the “light leak issue”.
From Ong Khiaw Seng from Canon Singapore
With reference to your question on whether Canon Singapore will recall the EOS 5D MK III due to the light leak issue, we wish to inform you that we will not. However we will contact you later this month to rectify this issue. Please leave us your contact number for our Service team to contact you.
Here’s hoping the above remains true.
There are various reports that Canon won’t release the big 35 mp camera until 2013. I’ve even heard the suggestion they’ll come in at 40mp . Canon does feel that their 20mp range for DSLRs is the best course for the moment. Customer demand will probably dictate whether or not they get into the big megapixel market. I do feel it’s inevitable that it’ll happen in the next 12 months.
There’s a big price gap between the 5D Mark III at $3500 and the 1D X at $6799 that I think needs filled. APS-H is dead, so something has to go in there around $4500-$5000. Judging by the initial sales of the 5D Mark III, people are willing to pay a lot of money for high end digital SLRs.
I’ll be at the Palms tonight in Las Vegas attending the premier for Timescapes, a film by astronomy photographer of the year Tom Lowe. It looks to be visually stunning and a benchmark for timelapse photography.
Thanks to Simon at Digiflix for the ticket.
Timescapes Trailer (in case you handn’t seen it)
I watched a demo by Bruce Sharpe at Singular software, he was showing off their software package PluralEyes.
PluralEyes is a product that ties in with your existing video editing software like Final Cut, Premier, Media Composer and others. It removes the tedious work of syncing audio from multiple camera sources, and it does it in seconds.
We saw a demo of the upcoming PluralEyes3, which is 10-15 times faster than the already speedy PluralEyes. About 90 minutes of video from 3 cameras was synced in about 25 seconds. There was a nice applause when it completed.
Someone asked “why everyone didn’t use PluralEyes?” and the answer was, “because people just don’t know about us”. So I’m here doing my part. The product is pretty remarkable and it’s so unblievably well priced at $149, everyone can afford to use it.
If you purchase PluralEyes in the next month or two, you will get a free upgrade to PluralEyes3 when it becomes available. The public beta of PluralEyes3 starts in May.
You can download a free 30 day demo at the Singular Software site.
As expected Canon had one of, if not the biggest booth on the NAB Show floor. Most of their video cameras, DSLRs and lenses were on display to play with.
Canon EOS 1D C
A couple of the 1D C’s were around to play with. They were attached to external monitors and you can play around with things like ISO and get a good idea about that kind of performance. The 1D C showed some pretty exceptional ISO via the HDMI out. We weren’t allowed to put cards into the camera, which is normal.
The camera looks exactly like the 1D X, other than not having the flash sync port.
Not much was said about the internals of the 1D C, which differ greatly from the 1D X. Most of which is used to displace the immense heat the 4K capture would create inside the body.
Availability was “sometime in 2012″.
Canon EOS C500
I couldn’t get within 10 feet of the thing. There were hordes of people around it listening to product descriptions and technical info from the folks at Canon. Again, the video out to the overhead monitors looked great, but we didn’t really get to see the 4K output from the camera.
Another “sometime in 2012″ for availability.
All the new cine lenses were on display. The newly announced 15.5-45 and 30-105 lens mockups were also present. The new EF 24-70 f/2.8L II was on display behind glass, I didn’t see a place to get my hands on it. What I didn’t see were the new EF 24 f/2.8 IS and EF 28 f/2.8 IS lenses. However, there are hordes of people always crowding the counters at the Canon booth and maybe they were hiding.
Canon showed off their prototype 4K displays again, and they really are pretty great to look at it. No one could answer if or when they’d make it to market, and there are no mention of price if they did. They were displaying 4K footage from both the C500 and 1D C on the screens.
5D Mark III Issue As expected, no one at the Canon booth wanted, or was allowed to talk about the issue with the 5D Mark III. I still haven’t heard about any possible recourse for the issue yet. I would expect it pretty soon though.
I also asked about firmware, and was told there was new firmware on the way, but it could have been delayed while Canon investigates the top LCD AE issue.
Other cool things
Above is the magnesium alloy shell of the Canon EOS-1D X. It was pretty amazing to feel how light it is. The Canon rep at the display agreed with me that they should sell just the shell. People would buy it for sure.
Apple met with video consultant Larry Jordan very recently prior to NAB 2012. The discussing lead to some information what we can expect in 2012 for Apple’s Final Cut Pro X.
Coming in 2012
- Multichannel Audio Editing Tools
- Dual Viewers
- MXF Plug-in Support
- RED camera support
Apple appears to be working hard on changing the perception that they don’t care about the pro market with Final Cut Pro X.
Read more at Larry Jordan’s blog
To Users of the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera
Thank you for using Canon products.
The phenomenon described below has been confirmed when using the Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera.
Canon is now examining the countermeasures and once the countermeasures are decided, we will post the information on our Web site.
In extremely dark environments, if the LCD panel illuminates, the displayed exposure value may change as a result of the AE sensor’s detection of light from the LCD panel.
Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital SLR Camera
Once the preparations are complete, we will be making an announcement on our Web site.
This information is for residents of the United States and Puerto Rico only. If you do not reside in the USA or Puerto Rico, please contact the Canon Customer Support Center in your region.
Please register the EOS 5D Mark III. By registering, we will be able to notify you via email when service updates are available. If you already registered, please ensure you are opted-in to receive the notification.