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There's no such thing as an "entry level" full-frame camera...makes zero sense marketing/business wise.  The Cine-DSLR will obviously be full-frame.  I can see a market for a 1DsMkIII-esque studio replacement in terms of a 3D/4D high MP monster but not suggesting that is coming, however much more market for that than cannibalizing the investment Canon has made in the 60D, 7D (7D II) etc. with a $2,400 full frame camera...UNLESS it shot only stills which would make no sense really given phones are shooting 1080P video now.  The 5D3 is the "entry-level" full-frame camera if you want to use that term; and the 1Dx is the flagship full-frame camera, certainly room in between them for a studio, high MP body.  There will not be a 5DX, that was a creation of this site I think, not seen anything from Canon on a "5DX", the Cine-4K DSLR is not going to be in the 5D line, it is meant for an entirely different market, the market it was announced at, Hollywood, with the C-300.  There will not be a <$3000 full frame camera from Canon this year, period...if ever.

The 5D Mark II will remain current into the fall, and for the moment it's entry level. It also sells extremely well after all these years. Reports I have from a few retailers is sales haven't slowed since the 5D3 was announced. If anything there was a surge in sales. There is definitely a market for a $2000 full frame camera.

This comes from someone that is probably the most accurate of any source with stuff months off from coming to market. Specs and the like are never decided this far in advance. I have heard there are multiple camera configurations in the wild right now.

If I had to wager, a 5D3 minus the AF, frame rate and build quality. $1999 anyone?

Odds & Ends
A know source has mentioned a couple of things in regards to products coming in late 2012.

Mirrorless Announcement I’m told that Canon’s foray into the mirrorless world will begin in August with an announcement. Photokina is in September, so it makes a lot of sense to announce at the end of summer.

New Full Frame A suggestion that Canon will announce an “entry level” full frame camera in the fall of 2012. A true replacement to the 5D Mark II?

That would bring about 4 new full frame cameras in the span of about a year if we include the coming 4K DSLR. Most assume that will be a full frame camera.


EOS Bodies / Canon Cinema EOS 4K Camera [CR1]
« on: March 24, 2012, 09:39:58 AM »
Brief words
Received a brief bit of information regarding the upcoming Canon Cinema EOS 4K DSLR.

Apparently it won’t be available for purchase until Q4 2012 or early 2013. The announcement could come some time before then. Variations of the camera are in the wild, no specs are known beyond the 4K specification for the movie mode.

The form factor will apparently be in the form of a 1D style body as shown at the C300 announcement.

NAB 2012 is coming up in the middle of April, and we have heard nothing about a possible announcement before then.


EOS Bodies / Patent: Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 VC
« on: March 23, 2012, 10:39:49 AM »
Another new 70-200 f/2.8
It looks like Tamron is going to be refreshing their 70-200 f/2.8 with a new version. The new version will add Tamron’s vibration correction as well as a new optical design.

2012-58619,2012-58620 Patent Publication No.

  • 2012.3.22 Release Date
  • 2010.9.10 filing date

Example 1

  • 111.5353 – - 194.0928mm f = 71.5336 focal length
  • Fno 2.9
  • 20.71 – - 12.48 deg 34.66 angle of view.
  • Magnification ratio 2.713
  • 18 sheets 13 group lens configuration
  • Three three aspherical surface
  • 3 ED glass sheet
  • Super ED lens equivalent to 1 XLD glass sheets and fluorite ※

Tamron’s patent

  • Positive-positive four-group zoom of positive and negative
  • Inner Focus
  • Focusing for the third lens group
  • Made compact and lightweight AF speed of the focus group
  • Lens consists of a single sheet of focus group
  • Inner zoom
  • Shake correction
  • For anti-vibration part of the fourth lens group
  • Compact, lightweight unit
  • By a small amount of shift in anti-vibration, energy saving

Source: [EG]


EOS Bodies / Re: Disappointed in Amazon 5D Mark III Preorder
« on: March 23, 2012, 09:11:00 AM »
Amazon began shipping bodies on the 21st, and lots went out yesterday. I expect more will leave today. Unfortunately, I don't have a contact at Amazon to give a better idea.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / 5D Mark III Reviews
« on: March 22, 2012, 06:21:31 PM »
5D Mark III review links
We are going to post review links to the 5D Mark III as they become available. We’ll only post indepth reviews, not previews. Be sure to send in a link to a review if you find one.


My review of the camera will be a week or two away. I really want to use the camera in a bunch of different situations.


EOS Bodies / Unofficial Canon Mirrorless Concept
« on: March 22, 2012, 08:56:17 AM »
A Canon mirrorless concept
We know a mirrorless camera from Canon is likely to appear in 2012. What form it takes is anyones guess. I am from the camp that Canon should do a higher end large sensor mirrorless along with a lower cost APS-C style camera.

David Riesenberg has done what I think is a fantastic concept design of a Canon mirrorless camera. Anyone at Canon listening?

The camera is based around the following ideas (Direct Quote)

  • Full Frame – Might as well be the pinnacle of 35mm. Especially if a new lens mount is required. Future proof.
  • 18.1MP sensor from the 1DX – This camera will not rob sales from the 1DX on form factor alone so it makes sense to use an existing sensor instead of a new one. Plus, it will make an excellent pair to someone with an 1DX.
  • CM-D Lens mount – That was the source of most headaches for me. Naturally, I wanted to design it around the EF mount for reasons that I don’t need to state but it proved to be very problematic. Both the flange depth and actual mount diameter meant that the camera needed to be much thicker and possibly taller to accommodate EF lenses. So this “CM-D” lens mount is roughly FD sized which keeps the dimensions close to the original and enables lenses that are not too huge.
  • 50mm f/1.0L “Kit Lens” – Fast primes. What can I say? I love them and they probably the best match to a system as I outlined above. So their existence is no less realistic that all the other items here. While I am far from being an optics expert, I designed this 50mm lens based on a combination of schematics of the Canon 50mm f/1L. FD f/1.2L and Leica f/0.95 so it should be a realistic representation of the dimensions of such a lens. It also features an aperture ring for direct control as well as an Auto mode for shutter priority or auto mode.
  • Viewfinder – Design wise, I knew from the start that I wanted to incorporate the prism hump of the AE cameras. It is a prominent feature that without it, the context of the design gets somewhat lost. At the same time, it is obviously not a technical requirement in mirrorless cameras so making it detachable while housing the EVF felt like the optimal combination of form and function. After all, if this is a camera for photographers, a viewfinder, even if electronic, is a must.
  • Flash Flash Flash – I regard flashes as an integral, must have feature of any system and I didn’t want to handicap its use in any form. Not when taking snapshots with the built-in one and not when the viewfinder is either attached or not.

Read more  and view tons of images of the concept

**NOTE This is an unofficial concept design. It is NOT a Canon Inc. concept

Thanks Saso K


Software & Accessories / Adobe Photoshop CS6 Public Beta
« on: March 22, 2012, 08:10:43 AM »
Press Release SAN JOSE, Calif., Mar 22, 2012 (BUSINESS WIRE) — Adobe Systems Incorporated today announced Adobe® Photoshop® CS6 beta, a preview of what’s to come in the next release of the industry standard in digital imaging, is available as a free download from Adobe Labs. Customers can download the beta, try out the experience and provide feedback to the product team. Packed with groundbreaking new innovations, features and incredible performance enhancements, Photoshop CS6 beta is available for the Mac OS and Microsoft® Windows® platforms. T1he final release is expected in the first half of 2012.

Read the entire press release | Download Photoshop CS6 Public Beta

thanks Lucas


EOS Bodies / Re: Canadian 5D MIII action?
« on: March 21, 2012, 08:19:34 PM »
Camera Canada has filled all their preorders and have cameras in stock.

EOS Bodies / Rebel T4i/650D Information [CR1]
« on: March 19, 2012, 09:47:49 AM »
The next Rebel
Information regarding the next Rebel is quite scattered. Though we have confirmed a new 18-135 lens with a silent autofocus motor as the new feature of the lens.

Since talking about that lens, there’s been a lot of speculation as to whether or not the Rebel would receive a new autofocus feature for video recording. I cannot confirm or deny that, but for a camera that is more consumer aimed, it would be a welcomed feature to those wanting to shoot video.

There has also been a few suggestions the next Rebel will have a touchscreen and built in WiFi. Niether feature can be confirmed at this time either.

Other unconfirmed specs show the camera to be 18.1mp and running DIGIC 5, which should improve noise performance and overall image quality. I’m told we won’t see a new APS-C sensor until the 60D and 7D replacements are addressed.

I think we’re going to see T4i/650D info and an announcement after the 5D Mark III begins shipping across the globe this week (Asia and Europe have seen some shipments arrive). It’s possible a new Rebel could arrive before NAB next month in Las Vegas.

EOS 650D book appears on Amazon?


Zeiss 70-200 f/2.8 ZE Mount Zeiss is rumored to be announcing a 70-200 f/2.8 at NAB in Las Vegas next month. This would be the first zoom lens Zeiss has produced for the ZE and ZF mounts.

Expect Zeiss to also announce new Cine CP.2 lenses at NAB.

Source: [PR] via [PG]


Site Information / Re: Karma is gone?
« on: March 17, 2012, 11:32:51 AM »

I failed to see the purpose in the smite, it seemed to add a negative spin to the forum. I am going to look into a "like" feature, as I think that would bring more positive discussion and reward the folks that have good ideas and points.

As always, it may not please everyone. Though I do think few will miss it.

Somewhere over North Carolina.....


I just got the 400 DO and so far I'm very impressed with it. Unfortunately I haven't taken it out for a serious shoot yet, but I will soon.

It's sharp, the contrast is fine. It does hunt a bit in low contrast situations. It's built well, and beautifully light.

I wish I had some great images to show you that were made with it, but those will have to wait a bit.

Third Party Manufacturers / Zeiss Distagon 15 f/2.8 ZE Official
« on: March 16, 2012, 08:29:04 AM »
Infinitely Wide – The new Distagon T* 2,8/15 super wide angle lens

After plenty of guessing by Carl Zeiss fans, it’s now official: the new super wide angle Distagon T* 2,8/15 lens has arrived. With an extra-large angle of view of 110 degrees in combination with a fast f/2.8 aperture, the lens enables the features for dramatic perspectives and performance demanded by the most ambitious landscape and architectural photographers. With a unique ability to capture events in a natural and extraordinary manner, it is also an ideal companion for advertising, journalism and commercial photography. It will be available with an EF (ZE) or F bayonet (ZF.2).

Read about it on the Zeiss blog

The lens will start shipping in May 2012 for a cool $2948 USD. It’ll be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Canon EF 14 f/2.8L II.


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