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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 31, 2012, 07:13:11 PM »
Geez some of you are having ridiculous reactions to this.  A few things to keep in mind before you speak:

1) Just because the lens doesn't seem appealing to you doesn't mean it won't appeal to others. 
2) Someone said why didn't they update this lens or that lens instead.  Just because Canon is releasing this doesn't mean that something else won't get released, they are a giant company, surely they can make more than one lens at a time.

I swear Canon can't release anything without catching a bunch of crap, if they announce something that you don't like just don't buy it and move on.
Feel free to tell us whether you like it or not instead of judging our reactions...
Unless we are not allowed to express our opinions  ::)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D Mark III sensor cleaning noise (squeaks)
« on: October 31, 2012, 07:04:30 PM »
I'm now a bit worried that I've never heard or felt anything from my 7D during sensor cleaning.  :-\
Maybe because it doesn't work?   ;D
Seriously now I haven't noticed anything on my 5DMkII and 5DMkIII. They must be broken too...  ;D

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Lenses / Re: EF-M 55mm f/1.3 Coming in 2013? [CR1]
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:59:52 PM »
I tend to believe something is probably going to happen in March of 2013

But what?  :o
Well, last March, Japan had a magnitude 9.0 earthquake.  What could top that?
Canon creating a DSLR with 120 DxO score maybe ;D ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Official DXOMark Sensor Score for the EOS-1D X
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:56:17 PM »
Sorry to get such a rise out of you guys.  ;)

It's strange to me how different stills people are vs. video people. Many video people are company agnostic for the most part. They tend to just go with what is the best camera out (probably because many use manual lenses so the investment in one company isn't quite as heavy). Stills people are ardent defenders of the faith. You are either Canon or Nikon, and you guys will defend your company to death. Saying something bad about Canon (or Nikon on the "other" site) is like insulting your mother, or probably worse.
Video people may be new to DSLRs. They used to use other king of equipment totally different form DSLRs. Stills people are more probably coming from the analog era or early digital so they had much time to get acquainted with their equipment and learned to appreciate its capabilities. Other than that I cannot think of any other reason...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Official DXOMark Sensor Score for the EOS-1D X
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:51:19 PM »
guys, is anyone disappointed with score would like to exchange your 1dx or hassy to some superior camera like nikon d7100? with additional charge from your side, of course  :P
;D 

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 31, 2012, 06:47:57 PM »
So many opinions about this ... so called lens! What are we going to do should this rumor turn CR0 suddenly ?  ;D  ;D

Seriously now, CR3 or not, it is still hard to believe it...

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Rokinon 14mm f/2.8
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:05:44 PM »

Can you please get a picture of the night sky with the lens fully open and see how the stars show at the corners? If the lens has coma (which even Canon L lenses have fully open) they will look like ... seagulls!

I can but I have to be motivated enough to drag it out after dark lol.  I should have tested it for that before when I was testing all the other lenses.  I think I can chalk that up to not counting on this to be much of a night sky lens due to all the light fall off/vignetting.  I suspect there's enough vignetting at f2.8 with this lens that it will be hard to get bad coma issues with stars.  But now I am curious what the distortion would do to a star trail lol.  Anyway, I just kinda doubt the issue will be coma on a night sky with it F2.8 and as much vignetting as there is there(it's more than the 14L II...which also has winged stars/coma I guess).  I have to send my 5D II in to fix the mount to sensor plane issue, which might happen today, so it'd likely be after that returns.
Thanks anyway! Even the vignetting information is useful. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a "free lunch". I' ll check vignetting in photozone.de and the-digital-picture.com

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:00:07 PM »
I read "24"..."70"...."IS"... and got excited. Then I read "f/4", and immediately got a migraine.
They love doing that to us  ;D

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 09:36:24 PM »
I would buy the 24-70 f4 IS if it was cheaper than the 24-105 and had better (or similarish) image quality. Size should be compact too.  It would fit in nicely with my 17-40 and 70-200 f4 lenses.
Though I kind of think it will cost more than the 24-105.  :(
Similar quality and a price not lower than existing 24-105 = useless lens
Better quality and higher price = stale mate: It depends: How much better IQ, how about product variation, etc.
Better or Similar quality and a price lower than existing 24-105 = unlikely scenario.

I really do think this will be the new kit lens for full frame cameras like 6D's and whatever. Marketing wise it makes sense to have less focal range in a kit to later sell more 70-200s.
Unless people use their brains and think they do not wish to be milked by Canon  ::)

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 09:19:49 PM »
What if its EF M?
Now you are talking! This is really interesting (and no kidding this time, although 24mm will be around 38mm)

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 09:17:45 PM »
There are also well known IQ issues with the 24-105 at the wide end that require the lens be replaced or updated before any high megapixel camera is made available for sale. It may be that a 24-105/f4 is unable to deliver the required IQ at 24mm whereas a 24-70/f4 can.

My 24-105 L is tack sharp at 24mm even on the corners (and I only use full frame cameras).  I have a 24x36 enlargement taken at 24mm in my place and the corners (as well as overall) are unbelievable sharp.  Without question the best general range zoom I have ever had.  For the life of me I cannot figure out why they would make a 24-70 f/4 when the 24-105 f/4 is so good.
Even if the 24-70 will be better at 24mm- and that's not certain - it will have a smaller range. Now I have heard of another L lens with an even smaller range that will inevitably be much better at 24mm: It's the 24mm 1.4L II  ;D  ;D  (Surprise!)

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 07:33:46 PM »
On the other hand, a lesser lens for a lesser camera (6D)  ;D

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 07:20:14 PM »

I can see the benefits of f2.8 IS - but 24-70 f4 IS?????

Let me guess...Canon going to charge more for a shorter in lenght(24-105) and slower f-stop(f2.8) lens.

WOW....their marketing team is getting smarter and smarter everyday.

There will be reasonable explanations for it:
1. STM motor
2. Better focusing with newer bodies
3. Next generation IS
4. Better coatings
5. Less distortion at 24mm
And a sentence: "Specially dedicated for photo enthusiast covering focals above 70mm with their 70-200 zooms, this newly developed best in it's class lens is better optimized through it's whole focal range."

They can't even do that on 24-70 f2.8 II - A $2300 LENS
It may be easier in F4 lens for 1399$ :)
They better make a superb 24-105 f/4L IS II if they want us to think seriously of it. Just my opinion...

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/4L IS Coming [CR3]
« on: October 30, 2012, 07:03:15 PM »
D.O.A I couldn't agree more. Unless this is a CR0 rumor actually  ::) 

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Patent: Tamron 150-600 f/5-6.3
« on: October 29, 2012, 02:38:36 PM »
A fixed focal length of 600mm and (preferably) f/5.6 would be a much better choice and it would be a little easier I guess to achieve good optical quality. YMMV.

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