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Lenses / Re: More Mentions of 2014 Being the Year of the Lens [CR1]
« on: November 19, 2013, 10:24:52 AM »
“Firstly, a new worlds widest full frame zoom lens (nor sure what this could be)”

There is a 16-35 and a new 14-24 or 12-24 has a big overlap so it would compete with the 16-35. What if they figured out a way to make something like a high quality 10-16 for FF?
An addition on the wide end without overlap is commercially probably the best option, and making money is Canons primary goal.

Hey, I like that! EF 10-16 will make a perfect combo with EF 16-50 f/4 IS. Now if the 10-16 lens does not have a bulging front element, that will be even more attractive.
In addition the 14-24 would compete with the expensive 14 2.8L II. Canon wouldn't like that I guess.
In addition 16-35 2.8 could use an improvement at the corners...

Yes and no. A 14-24 zoom would be larger and heavier than the 14mm prime and if it were optically equal or superior then it would simply be priced higher than the prime.
How much more than the current price of 14 2.8L II would be enough? The Nikon 14-24 2.8 costs less than that, not more. Even with a higher price it would have a 15-24mm additional range... 14 2.8 II would still be redundant...

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Lenses / Re: More Mentions of 2014 Being the Year of the Lens [CR1]
« on: November 19, 2013, 07:08:35 AM »
Not "year of the new sensors"? :P lol
(like whole new manufacturing process and so on)
Hmmm, unless we saw it happen we would practically consider it as CR0 ...

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Lenses / Re: More Mentions of 2014 Being the Year of the Lens [CR1]
« on: November 19, 2013, 07:07:52 AM »
“Firstly, a new worlds widest full frame zoom lens (nor sure what this could be)”

There is a 16-35 and a new 14-24 or 12-24 has a big overlap so it would compete with the 16-35. What if they figured out a way to make something like a high quality 10-16 for FF?
An addition on the wide end without overlap is commercially probably the best option, and making money is Canons primary goal.

Hey, I like that! EF 10-16 will make a perfect combo with EF 16-50 f/4 IS. Now if the 10-16 lens does not have a bulging front element, that will be even more attractive.
In addition the 14-24 would compete with the expensive 14 2.8L II. Canon wouldn't like that I guess.
In addition 16-35 2.8 could use an improvement at the corners...

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Lenses / Re: More Mentions of 2014 Being the Year of the Lens [CR1]
« on: November 19, 2013, 07:04:26 AM »
Actually, 2010 was going to be the year of the lens.

I followed the link above and the lens list that followed were CR's predictions, not based on any CR2 type of rumors.

Fine, but this is not a CR2-type rumor, either...   ;)
They play it safe  8)

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 18, 2013, 08:55:05 AM »
I guess some things do not apply to TS-E world. I do not mean of course the diameter (opening) of the front element but the total size.

See:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/818360-REG/Schneider_06_1064382_PC_TS_Super_Angulon.html

The above 90mm TS lens is bigger (length and diameter) and much heavier than Canon! Yet it is f/4.5!!!

The above is just a thought as I am not an expert. But I deducted so from the above example....

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Canon General / Re: Comet ISON = ISOFF?
« on: November 15, 2013, 12:47:27 PM »
The problem is that when (now) its magnitude will increase, the time before sunrise when ISON rises gets less and less (there is a specific Astronomy issue dedicated to ISON that mentions details but I guess these can be easily found). So twilight will cause problems in locating and viewing it.


After perihelion its magnitude will decrease at high rate.

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Canon General / Re: Comet ISON = ISOFF?
« on: November 15, 2013, 12:42:27 PM »
Where are the photos?  I have Mount Spokane blocking my view to the South Southeast.

When I read that, all I could think of was you blocking somebody's view.... :D

I have a light dome to the east, a little bit less if I plunk myself down by the Gulf.  All my good eastern sky spots mean heading out early, set up and knock off a few shots then pack it up and head for work.  We'll probably have a break in the weather here soon, but moonlight will be interfering for the next two weeks, my standard luck.....
Same  ;D

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 15, 2013, 12:41:14 PM »
Yeah. What lunatic continues to buy gear they hate?

you have not read, what he wrote. He is using multiple Canon bodies for stills and video. Out in the wild.
The last thing I'd want out there is a body from another manufaturer, with different user interface, different sensor characteristics, different batteries, etc. ... how about you?

If my livelihood depended on it, I would.

I might still do that in part (even though I do this for a hobby). I did not like the WA lenses of Canon so I might just pick up a used D800 (sell quite cheap these days) and the 14-24.
There is some truth in the WA part (I am thinking mainly FF corner IQ and coma)

But for landscapes and architecture my TS-E 17mm and for landscapes and astrophotography my Zeiss 21mm 2.8 cover these limitations.

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 12, 2013, 09:12:56 PM »
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.

Sigma already has an 85mm f/1.4, which competes with the 85mm f/1.8, if not the 85mm f/1.2. As noted before, reviews show the Sigma to have inferior IQ.
True, but Sigma MUST try to compete with Canon. Canon will not compete with themselves!

But Canon ignore Sigma?
They have a very good value for money 85mm 1.8 and a superb 85 1.2L II that most probably focus much better than Sigma... :)

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 12, 2013, 10:44:02 AM »
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.

Sigma already has an 85mm f/1.4, which competes with the 85mm f/1.8, if not the 85mm f/1.2. As noted before, reviews show the Sigma to have inferior IQ.
True, but Sigma MUST try to compete with Canon. Canon will not compete with themselves!

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 12, 2013, 07:07:34 AM »
85/1.4
85/1.2L III
This is not realistic. 1.4 would compete with 1.2. You may wish it but it will simply not happen.
35/1.4L II
14-24L
16-35L III
I would these too. Plus they seem a logical next step (Canon please ...)

135/1.8L IS
Doable but maybe not practical. It would be MUCH more expensive and heavier. It would not be low profile any more. An f/2.0L IS version would be more smaller/lighter/cheaper than this.

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 12, 2013, 06:46:30 AM »
Now there are other lenses, but these are the most crucial IMO: (I have / or have had, all these lenses)

Canon EF 14 2.8 L II (2007) has bad IQ, lot's of CA/coma in the corners, beaten well by the Zoom lens 14-24 2.8 Nikon, as well as the Samyang 14mm.
Canon EF 16-35 2.8 L II (2007) has bad IQ,, lot's of CA/coma and soft in the corners. It has it's strengths in weight and portability but need an IQ upgrade.
Canon EF 24 1.4 L II (2008) has REALLY BAD IQ!! CA and so much coma in the corners that it basically useless in low lit sutations wide open. Beaten well by Samyang 24 1.4! Wake up Canon!!
Canon EF 35 1.4 L II (1998) has bad IQ, lot's of CA/coma/soft in the corners. An old lens well beaten by Samyang 35 1.4 and Sigma 35 1.4, needs an upgrade, but IMO 24 1.4 is more important to prioritize!
Canon EF 50 1.8 II, (1990), the oldest 50mm is the best 50mm Canon has. Corner sharpness is bad, but still beets all other 50mm from Canon, still this lens suffers from CA and is beaten well by the Nikon 50 1.8 and Sigma 50 1.4.
Canon EF 50 1.4 (1993) is suffering from severe CA wide open, well beaten by the Nikon 50 1.8 / Sigma 50 1.4.

Canon need to pull their finger out of wherever they are currently (the Cinema division) and respect and prioritize the DSLR customers which have put Canon where they are.


Have you even tried these lenses or are you chart watching? Your comments are extream and very irritating to those of us who actually use these items in a professional guise....which the L lenses were created. They weren't designed for web trolls who claim knowledge, but their experiance seems to come from looking at web reviews. I use a 35mm f1.4 L, 24mm f1.4 II L and 16-35IIL day in day out professionally and have for many years. If you think those lenses are junk because of a few minor aberations...then you really need to get a grip. No lens is perfect, end of subject. All of the lenses above, I use wide open and I have produced great photos which sell and sell. A fast prime shot a f1.2 or f1.4 is a remarkable thing and a lens which is delivered to the customer with pro build, AF and great optics for around £1200 is quite remarkable. These lenses are astonishing and can produce amazing photographs in the right hands. If you pass over these gems because of some crazy elitest attitude...it really is your loss....but please don't come on here and spout your views as verbatim...as you will be challenged!
Consider this, most of the best photographs ever taken were taken on quite lowly kit...Steve McCurry, Cartier Bresson...to name a few. Perhapse we should be more critical of our photographs than our lenses? I suspaect that 99% of modern lenses and cameras out perform their users.
+1 You beat me to it ;)

As I have some of the mentioned lenses and have seen photos from some other allow me to comment:

Canon EF14mm f2.8L II I do have it. It has good IQ and NOT so much Coma! It does have some but it is not a buy stopper.
Canon EF16-35mm f2.8 L (Sorry it's the version I that I have and can comment upon): Bad IQ at the corners (and only in the corners)
and a lot of coma. Judging from that I believe that the version II will not be a huge upgrade (at least regarding coma)

Canon 35mm 1.4L I do have it and It does have coma.

Canon 24mm 1.4L II. This I do not have but i have NO reason to doubt the following 2 reviews:

http://www.extremeinstability.com/lens24mm.html
http://www.lenstip.com/245.7-Lens_review-Canon_EF_24_mm_f_1.4L_II_USM_Coma_and_astigmatism.html
According to the screenshots shown in these reviews it is a joke lens regarding coma.
If you add the fact that my Zeiss 21mm 2.8 ZE has very good corners and almost NO coma I believe that there is indeed room for improvement for Canon lenses.

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Lenses / Re: Lots of New Lenses Coming in 2014 [CR2]
« on: November 11, 2013, 01:33:30 PM »
Sorry to disappoint, but these new lenses are just white versions of existing models to match the new white SL1 /100D shortly to be released in Japan and Korea.

Of course, to complement the new white SL1 they will also be re-releasing some of the L lenses such as the 70-200mm F2.8 L in black.
;D  ;D  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Teaser Appears in Korea
« on: November 11, 2013, 08:04:04 AM »
It's even silly to show teasers for practically nothing.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D - Getting started in Magic Lantern ...
« on: November 11, 2013, 04:59:41 AM »
Does 6D ML  support fully uninstall (unlike 5D3) ?

I actually don't know if you can remove the 6d bootflag because I don't intend to do it, there are no reports of Canon making any fuzz about it - this issue is blown out of proportion because it seems many people don't realize "uninstalling" ML is simply by formatting the sd/cf card as the camera then boots w/o ml (or simply press a button on startup).

Ask 1% in the ML forum (new ports -> 6d dev kit) as he's the maintainer of the 6d ML "Tragic Lantern" port.
OK thanks

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