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EOS Bodies / Re: Anyone with news about Mk3 in-stock?
« on: May 22, 2012, 10:34:04 AM »

My old hometown brick/mortar does Internet sales now and I know they have the kit lens in stock. Just bought the 100-400l lens and AFTER ringing it up, we both remembered about the current rebate-and without hesitating, he re-rang it up with the rebate price and he did all the paperwork-awesome service!!

The 'slow' AF is way over-rated and talked about by those who don't actually shoot with it. I regularly use it with the 1dIV and 5d3 to shoot indoor volleyball and while hit rate is lower than 70-200, it is definitely usable for fast-action (if you have any sense of timing and are willing to shoot mulitple frames).
As for its' portraiture value, it is unsurpassed in sharpness, even wide open if you place your focus point properly.

As to the OP's original 'prime' question, since he has the 24-104 range covered, I'd cast my vote (again) to the 135...

I use the 35/1.4 L mostly (only) when I need the extra bokeh or extra light (courtside sports/indoors no flash) c/w the 16-35 or 24-70 zooms,  though I feel images are pretty similar in quality, so it is more of a speciality use for me. AF is just a touch slow.

Likewise the 50/1.4 only gets pulled out for specific shot requirements, though I am loving the classic FOV of the 50 with the FF sensor, and I use it much more now c/w my time with the 7d.   I too, am considering the 50/1.2 to complete my prime series, but with the focal length already covered by the 16-35, 24-70 (24-15 in your case) and 50 1.4 (1.8) I would have a hard time justifying it.

All things considered, the 50mm focal length is classic for many reasons/situations and will start you down the journey of lens lust - once you get an L prime, you keep finding reasons to get another  :)

If you thought the 50 was too wide on the 'cropped' sensor then of the three you mentioned, I'd go with the 85 on the FF, but since you already have the 24-105, why not consider the 135/2? Expand your range a little, it is very sharp with excellent IQ and cheapest of the 4.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Shutter speed during video???
« on: May 09, 2012, 06:37:56 PM »
Ended up with the 7d on a tripod to capture the gym / court action and I bought a cheapo PROMASTER shoulder rig to help me shoot with 5d3 and a Hoodman Loupe Viewfinder.  A little awkward, and pulling focus was harder than I thought - kudos to you who do this all the time.  My files are being processed in FCP (trial version) so will post my newbie highlight reel in a day or two. Thanks for all the great advice, I ended up shooting 720p at 60fps 1/60 5.6, ISO 3200 on the 7d  (16-35 at ~ 30 m) and 2000 on the 5d3 with my 70-200. WB was set to 3200 but it ended up being a little cooler in the video than appeared on the viewfinder. How do I correct this in post?  Normally for stills I use L,  but what cheap options are there for video PP??

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Shutter speed during video???
« on: May 04, 2012, 12:47:03 PM »
VERY helpful hints, a few more ??'s

I already custom white balance for each of the different gyms I shoot, so I assume the same WB I shoot stills will be the same, correct?

Shoot Manual ?  30 fps, 1/30 or 1/60? , f 5.6 - f8, and adjust ISO to attain exposure

and I ASSUME that the 5d3 sensor would allow me to shoot lower ISO c/w the 7d, but if the 7d is 'adequate', I could set up both cameras, the 7d fixed and more WA, and then track / go handheld and tight with 5d3, but how much "post" will I have to do if I use 2 diff bodies? Granted I am probably going to pawn off the post on my videographer, but I'd like to learn to shoot it correctly and avoid common mistakes, which brings me to the compression formats.  Between the 7d and 5d3, which format to use for the 5d3? 

Time - synching?  Cheap options for a multi-camera shoot? Necessary ??

I do have a 64 GB 90mbs SD card for the 5d and (2) 32 GB 90mbs CF cards for the 7d, so I assume that would be enough storage for (max) 5 games, each lasting 20-30 min's.

Thanks again, I'll be reading, practicing this weekend but it is always nice to hear ( in advance what to look out for)...

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Shutter speed during video???
« on: May 04, 2012, 09:31:44 AM »
Are you trying for something in a documentary style, or are trying to cover complete games? Do you have a good tripod? Tell me exactly what you are trying to do.

Documentary / highlight roll, not a static 'coaches/spectator' view. We are putting together highlight footage and our regular videographer will be unavailable. I am hoping to learn more from him, but I don't meet with him regularly, and I appreciate the info I get from this forum too.

We capture isolated plays, emotions of the moment.

Currently, I use a Induro GHb2 gimbal head (or a  327RC joystick, or a 57 series ballhead) on a Manfrotto 055CXPRo 4 (or a 695 series monopod) to stabilze a 70-200 2.8 II on either a 1dIV, 5d3 or 7d. 

Also use any of my primes (135/2, 85, 35) if lighting is bad - which it usually is....

Need to decide soon on the value of getting the loaner pro camcorder or learning the 5d3 (or 7d/1d), but really hoping to have quickest learning curve to achieve least amateurish looking video (despite the fact I am an amateur at video :) )

Links to readable resources on the basics of DSLR videos is appreciated, I read the Canon stuff, but am hungry for knowledge outside of the marketing....

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Shutter speed during video???
« on: May 03, 2012, 08:55:52 PM »
What about faster action sports?  What settings would produce the least motion blur / least choppiness, and for the sake of us beginners, list ALL the settings / setup procedure.  I would like to add video to my volleyball website, and will be shooting with a 5d3, so any help would be appreciated. I was debating taking out a loaner from CPS for one of the HD pro camcorders for our upcoming championships, but would rather stick with my 5d3 if the resulting video would be comparable, less choppy and if the learning curve is quick enough.  I have a few playoff games to practice with, but assuming we advance, I need to be proficient in exactly 2 wks. 

EOS Bodies / Re: 1Dx vs. 1D mk IV vs. 7d
« on: April 26, 2012, 06:04:21 PM »
Camera   Canon EOS 7D
Exposure   0.001 sec (1/1000)
Aperture   f/2.0
Focal Length   135 mm
ISO Speed   3200

PVC16Black7d011 by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Camera   Canon EOS-1D Mark IV
Exposure   0.001 sec (1/800)
Aperture   f/2.2
Focal Length   135 mm
ISO Speed   6400

PVC18Yellowreedits1D093 by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Not a fair fight (the 1d is shot at iso 6400 vs 3200 for the 7d) but this gives a real life comparison with the same type of shot. Both processed with ACR.  The noise quality is 'less and  different' with the 1d, but both hold up to printing at 16x20 well.

EOS Bodies / Re: The ultimate 5d3 poll - What's your take on the 5d3?
« on: April 23, 2012, 11:25:41 AM »
To those with the Mark iii and 85L.

Is the AF more accurate / faster wide open ?

5d3 85 a by PVC 2012, on Flickr

b by PVC 2012, on Flickr

c by PVC 2012, on Flickr

5d3-85 d by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Camera           Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Exposure           0.001 sec (1/800)
Aperture           f/1.8
Focal Length   85 mm (lens 85L 1.2 II)
ISO Speed   800

Not 'wide open' but AF had no trouble tracking this athlete in an underlit high school gym....

Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS USM
« on: April 22, 2012, 10:14:50 PM »

DRYL1561 by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Camera          Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Exposure           0.002 sec (1/640)
Aperture           f/2.8
Focal Length   300 mm
ISO Speed           3200

Canon EF Zoom Lenses / Re: EF 24-70mm 2.8L
« on: April 18, 2012, 03:24:44 PM »

SV5D0426 by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Lenses / Re: Canon 135mm f2 L
« on: April 18, 2012, 02:07:35 PM »
Camera   Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Exposure   0.001 sec (1/1000)
Aperture   f/2.0
Focal Length   135 mm
ISO Speed   4000
Exposure Bias   +2/3 EV

Handheld - no IS needed for high shutter speeds, maybe if you needed less ISO, slower shutter speeds but with 5d3's improved ISO performance, no problems with this fine lens

Here is another low light, handheld shot with a 7d

Camera   Canon EOS 7D
Exposure   0.003 sec (1/350)
Aperture   f/2.0
Focal Length   135 mm
ISO Speed   3200

135Lsnow7Da by PVC 2012, on Flickr

FC5D0103 by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Portrait / Re: Candid portraits
« on: April 13, 2012, 09:01:46 AM »
My 'preset' candid settings didn't work out as planned, but in a break in the action, I caught one of the players messing around with the ball...maybe not exactly a candid, but shows off the 5d3 135/2 combo.

Camera   Canon EOS 5D Mark III
Exposure   0.001 sec (1/800)
Aperture   f/2.2
Focal Length   135 mm/F2 lens
ISO Speed   2500

SV5D0316 by PVC 2012, on Flickr

Portrait / Re: Candid portraits
« on: April 12, 2012, 10:04:05 AM »
I enjoy checking back from time-time to see what others are seeing.  Still curious as to the 'go-to' settings people use.  I just set up my Custom functions button on my 5d3 this AM as a trial to:

auto ISO (limit at 3200),
Single shot AF with center point and surrounding 8 point expansion

and will be doing some 'crowd' shots at a VB match tonite - hope to have some to display  :)

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