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Introduce him to the merits of a professional photographers contract and give a few references, maybe he'll see it differently.

Nonsense, capture fees are a very common way for professional photographers to work. All the second shooters I have ever used have been capture fee only employed, I have been capture fee employed on many occasions. You can choose to not do it, that is fine, but many pros do work like that.

Think of it like this, I get a job, I employ a second shooter, I am in charge of everything, lighting, posing etc etc, why should the second shooter have any rights over those images? It is not an example of their work, it is an illustration of mine.

Or another, many many pros have "assistants" often shooting with remote cameras, they do not (very rarely) get the image credit, it is the primary photographer.

Or another, an event organizer, they have the rights to the event, they can employ stills and video teams that have no rights to the images they capture, it is a very common scenario.

Or another, many agency employed photographers contract image making, that is they tell a photographer to go and take a specific image. The agency has all rights to those images and the photographer has none, they were contracted on a no rights basis.

See all the Getty Image/AFP credits on images? Many of those are owned by the agency not just managed by it, often you will see ©Fred Blogs/Getty Images, these normally have shared copyright but are licensed through the agency.

People talk a lot of rubbish about copyrights, a contract can, and often does, override any rights you have as the capturing agent to use those images, and that is not, necessarily, a bad thing.

Of course a contract can have you assign the complete copyright to who you are working for, although I think that's considered Work for Hire where you don't end up owning the copyright. However, OP is not being hired under what I see (could easily be wrong) as a traditional Work for Hire type job, IMO. There's also a big difference between "you can't commercialize any of this, but portfolio is fine" vs "you can't have these photos around, anywhere!"

Of course, it's all up to the person being hired if they are willing, and plainly OP is not.

@Dylan777: If it weren't going to be such a PITA driving down there, I'd seriously consider it. However, the extra drive (and needing to rent a lens for that long!), plus not having any at all for any kind of portfolio images makes me say no thanks.

BTW, you're in LA? Cool! Where do you usually shoot at?

Hey Drizzt321,
I'm located in Orange County, city of Foutain Valley.

I don't really have any special places in mind. About you?

3. He wants all photos to transfer to his PC right-after-each game and all photos must be delete from camera(s).
That's an odd request - is that why you turned it down?  Or was it the 9 hours of work at a much smaller rate or something else? 

Congrats on getting another request for your work, sorry it's not going to work out this time.

I would take the offer if i get to keep the photos. Or even do it free.

$1100 is 10% of my next lens...600mm. But I'm not that desperate for cash ;)

Last Nov I posted this: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,18158.0.html

Today, I received an email from the same Coach offered me $1,100 CASH to shoot 3 games of Youth Soccer Leagues.

I spoke with him on the phone and he clearly wanted:

1. Me to be at the field for no more than 3hrs to cover each game -Total of 9hrs for 3 games.
2. He is fine with JPEG files, since he only wants action shots - boys running, kicking ball etcs...
3. He wants all photos to transfer to his PC right-after-each game and all photos must be delete from camera(s).

I told him, I'm not interested. But willing to deliver a message to CR.

Shoot me an email if you interested @ vdka777@yahoo.com   Edit: The gig has been taken by one of our CR member.

MUST BE IN California, zip code 92708

Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:52:21 PM »
I've posted this before in the Landscape thread but thought it might had to the 50/1.4 one as it fitted the bill perfectly when shooting straight into the light.

A six frame panoramic taken with 5DII + 50/1.4 @f11 1/10th, ISO 100. Each frame is the same single exposure, no bracketing, just exposed to lose the very highest highlights, working to the strengths of the Canon chip. Even in this situation 11.5 stops of DR is plenty. Another 2 wouldn't have held the sun.

Nice work Sporgon ;)

I owned f1.4 for 2-3yrs. Nice lens.

EOS Bodies / Re: Announcement Talk Begins
« on: January 03, 2014, 02:42:40 PM »
Another boring announcement  :P ?!

I'll wait for Sigma's announcements! Canon totally bored me!

I'm 100% opposite. Can't wait to go out with my Canon BIG WHITE ;D

i have a 50mm F1.8 lens and the standard 18mm-58mm lens included in a kit (i think that's the one)
are u saying i should be able take better pics??

i'm still an amatuer... but i now all about the triangle and can adjust to take pics in low light

the nexus 5 will take crisp clear pics with lots of definition without a low F stop

what am i doing wrong?

Where do you view nexus 5 photos at? on the phone or PC?

Did you compared 60D pics and nexus 5 pics on same monitor?

Lenses / Re: Canon 24-105 vs canon 24-70 ii
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:29:15 PM »
Update:  Purchased a 24-70ii.  Have used it for a couple weeks now.

Here are my thoughts:   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Will be selling my 24-105....

"Will be selling my 24-105...." ==> I'm not surprised at all ::)

Congrats...post some pics ;D

Lenses / Re: Canon 24-105 vs canon 24-70 ii
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:21:29 PM »
I just got the 24-70mkii and sold my 24-105. Never really have a use for it. I like using prime and got the 24-70mk2. Thinking I would not need to use my prime lenses any more. I was right I havent use any of my primes. The 24-70 never leaves my camera, but lately Ive been disappointed on the AF on my 6D. While it was good using the center AF only and just started using the outer af as my baby starts to walk. I also get inconsistent focus on the center unless my subject is completely still. So I end up ordering the 5D mk3 and will be getting rid of the 6D. Hope its all worth it.

I used to recompose my shots with 5D II(on/off focus results). Now with 5D III, I only use 41 combination of dual and cross AF points. Recompose shot is almost down to none. Nail it every times.

Once you shoot with 5D III, I don't think you want to shoot anything else - except 1D x ;D

To me, putting extra $1000ish to get much better AF system is worth every penny.

Portrait / Re: Future White Lens owner
« on: January 02, 2014, 07:27:35 PM »
my 5yrs old

Her fav. camera is x100s

Portrait / Re: Future White Lens owner
« on: January 02, 2014, 07:23:37 PM »
my 5yrs old

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Buy a 5D Mark III or Wait for ??? in 2014
« on: January 02, 2014, 06:07:23 PM »
I'm waiting for the release of the 1Dx Mark III.  That's the only way I can afford the current 1Dx just like I can finally afford the 1D Mark III now that it is 2 revs out.


Lenses / Re: Get a 300mm or 600mm? Oh the agony...
« on: January 02, 2014, 04:10:15 PM »
I recently purchased 300mm f2.8 IS II. There is no doubt the 300 is considered as "THE LENS". However, I returned the 300mm and settled with 400mm f2.8 IS II for more reach. I do quite a bit indoor shooting, therefore, f2.8 is what I really after. Otherwise, 600mm sounds awesome.

Lenses / Re: Tamron SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC Review
« on: January 02, 2014, 03:08:14 PM »
600mmish: Tammy $1,000ish Vs Canon $12,000ish ::) ::) ::)

Personally, I can't wait for this lens..... should I get one of these http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-slr-mount/ so I can use it with my iPod?

#1 lesson I learn in life : "you get for what you pay for"

Lenses / Re: Tamron SP 150-600 f/5-6.3 VC Review
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:40:53 AM »
600mmish: Tammy $1,000ish Vs Canon $12,000ish ::) ::) ::)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Buy a 5D Mark III or Wait for ??? in 2014
« on: January 01, 2014, 11:03:44 PM »
Hope is nice.  Holding your breath would be a bad idea.

In what way is your 5DII falling short for you? For me, it was the AF. The 5DIII would have been a solution, but I got the 1D X.  I didn't have issues with the sensor-based IQ of the 5DII.

+1...AF system is my #1 reason jumping from II to III.

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