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The BIG diff here is Sony brought 35mm sensor into tiny body at reasonable prices.

True, but the OM-D E-M5 is part of an existing ecosystem of small, high quality lenses designed to match up with that small body.  A FF sensor in a tiny body with a big lens means the tiny body is at best no real benefit, and more often a hinderance when handling the combination, basically the same as sticking an EOS M behind a 24-70/2.8 or 70-200 lens. 

The appeal of the a7R to Canon shooters is that it works with their existing lenses, and provides a higher resolution sensor with better low ISO DR than any current Canon body.  The appeal of the a7R to Nikon shooters is…not much, really.  The appeal of the a7R to Sony shooters may be substantial…I bet many of the 350 of them are profoundly interested!   :P

LOL...It's hard for people to step out their comfort zone. Regardless what might happen to Sony FF mirrorless cameras in the future, I admired them for bringing wonderful consumer high-end cameras to the market (RX100 II, RX1, and now A7).
I agree ... but in the case of Sony, there was no choice but to innovate, as they are a loss making company (due to poor product support) ... I would be happy to buy the Sony FF mirrorless camera if I know for certain that they will continue with this product without discarding it (and its customers) down the line ... first they said in Camera Stabilization is what they stand for, then they ditch it for this FF mirrorless without in-camera-stabilization, now there is no way to know for sure (given Sony's past) that they will not put in-camera-stabilization in a future model (screwing the early adopters)  or continue on to make more image stabilized lenses. I want Sony to succeed and I thy they can, if they don't ditch their customers and provide sustained customer support. At the moment I am not really convinced by the FE lenses (except for the tiniest one), all those lenses look big for a camera of this size, especially the white one. If Sony succeeds in this, it will be good for the industry and we get to benefit from increased competition.

Yes. I agree about long lenses on mirrorless :-\ It doesn't make sense.

The market has clearly devided in segments:
1. DSLR system - Canon & Nikon are still the best choice for photogs
2. Compact high end & mirrorless systems - Sony & Fuji seem to have upper hand

Technology only will get better, faster, smaller and cheaper....the ultimate question is how fast can these companies bring to the market?

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The BIG diff here is Sony brought 35mm sensor into tiny body at reasonable prices.

True, but the OM-D E-M5 is part of an existing ecosystem of small, high quality lenses designed to match up with that small body.  A FF sensor in a tiny body with a big lens means the tiny body is at best no real benefit, and more often a hinderance when handling the combination, basically the same as sticking an EOS M behind a 24-70/2.8 or 70-200 lens. 

The appeal of the a7R to Canon shooters is that it works with their existing lenses, and provides a higher resolution sensor with better low ISO DR than any current Canon body.  The appeal of the a7R to Nikon shooters is…not much, really.  The appeal of the a7R to Sony shooters may be substantial…I bet many of the 350 of them are profoundly interested!   :P

LOL...It's hard for people to step out their comfort zone. Regardless what might happen to Sony FF mirrorless cameras in the future, I admired them for bringing wonderful consumer high-end cameras to the market (RX100 II, RX1, and now A7).

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This fits perfectly into what Thom Hogan calls the Internet Amplification Effect, described in http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/tough-camera-questions.html. The Olympus EM5 is an example. We'll see how the A7/A7r pan out... I suspect they'll go down the same route.

"Beware the Internet amplification effect (IAE). Supposedly the OM-D E-M5 has been a hot, hit camera, but Olympus only sold 250,000 total m4/3 cameras in the first six months of their fiscal year, and that worked out to  about 200k Pen-type cameras and about 50,000 E-M5). A camera can appear to be "hot" because loud voices are praising it and others are repeating that message, but the IAE doesn't always translate to sales numbers that change the marketplace."

PS: In comparison, Canon sold about 4 million and Nikon about 3.2 million interchangeable lens cameras in 6 months this year.
Good information on article.  The BIG diff here is Sony brought 35mm sensor into tiny body at reasonable prices. Same body size as omd5 with x3 bigger in sensor.

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My "trusted source" said, Canon landscape shooters are responsible for this 200% increase ;D

Not Nikon shooters?  Oh, wait…the Sony a7R has less DR than the D800/D800E.  Nevermind.
;D...do you plan to get one neuro?

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A 'trusted source' says 200% of expectations?  That's nice, but mostly meaningless without a baseline number.  I just ate 200% of the number of pieces of fruit I expected to eat this morning…two, instead of one.   :P

My "trusted source" said, Canon landscape shooters are responsible for this 200% increase ;D

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By Sony: “the pre-ordered quantities are almost 200% bigger than expected"

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/from-source-sony-a7-a7r-preorders-200-more-than-expected-from-sony-sony-a7r-review-at-cameralabs/

Ok...let see more prime lenses please :o
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Added: Found some photos: http://www.chipchick.com/2013/11/sony-a7-a7r-sample-photos.html

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL1/Kiss X7 in White
« on: November 14, 2013, 09:20:52 AM »
This is prettier  ::)

-1...I got headache by looking at those buttons on Df. Body is thick & bulky :-\

Wanna see prettier cameras?  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL1/Kiss X7 in White
« on: November 14, 2013, 09:16:26 AM »
She is pretty. However, I'm a married man, therefore, count me out...

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Fuji x100s + Canon Speedlites?
« on: November 14, 2013, 09:09:26 AM »
X200 previous rumors came true, just under another name. This one can too ("x100FF"?)

Should be fixed FF. X100S proved that there is a market for fixed lens but the price point will be very delicate.

I'll still control myself and wait, but it'll be a win anyway as, if i'm not into the x200, there will be a price drop in x100s to enjoy.

Other determinant points will be the lens of course but if the keep the end result (35mm f2) I'd be in.

As much as I enjoy current x100s, I do look forward for that rumor(FF x100s) with fixed 35mm. Current x100s body and button layout are perfect. Keep it thin as current x100s. Little bit wider to compensate for 35mm sensor is ok with me.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Image Quality - Body vs Lens?
« on: November 13, 2013, 12:30:35 PM »
     Finally honed in on "lens" greatness (for my T1i) in a Sigma 17-50, Canon 100 2.0 and Canon 200 2.8II.  All of these lenses work perfectly with the 1.6x effect so I'll stick with crop.  With that itch to upgrade the body many reviews of the latest offering (the 70D) say that the image quality is OK which leaves me sticking with the T1i.  Is it possible that there'll be a crop-sensor camera in the future that will get rave image quality reviews or is that where full-frame comes in and it's just best to place much more importance on lens selection?
     I imagine I'd like whipping through touch-screens and all, but if there's no gain in image quality to be had then there's not much point really; I think.

      :-\
It is quite simple. Bigger bucket holds more water.  Same rule for sensor size, bigger sensor = better iq. To me, you need both good body and lens to make good photos in bad light conditions.

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Lenses / Re: The 24-105 and/or the 24-70 II ...
« on: November 13, 2013, 10:13:19 AM »
I've had the 24-105 for about a year and a half now. It came as the kit lens for my 5D Mk III. My copy is a very good one, tack sharp and quite fast, as far as I seem to notice. 3 months ago I bought the 24-70 II. It is an outstanding lens, as far as AF response and sharpness are concerned. I think it's better than the 24-105. That being said, is it possible that the 24-105 can still be useful? If I keep it, and don't sell it, to what uses, if any, can the 24-105 be put? Is there anything that I can do with the 24-105 that I can't do with the 24-70 II?!

Tack sharp @ at what f-stop? 8 or 11?

sell it and save bag space for other lenses.


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At that level of catastrophe; every clean drops water, every food cans, every warm clothes, every cents can save a life...

Thank you Mr. Canon and Nikon.

Which reminded me to play my part

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Landscape / Re: Post Your Best Landscapes
« on: November 12, 2013, 08:46:07 PM »
On the way to work this morning, I saw sky is filled with colors. Since I didn't have any camera with me, I took this photo with my Samsung Galaxy S4 - little PP through LR4.

Not the best, but the best landscape taken with smart phone for me ;D

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I'm not sure what kind of sensor Samsung Galaxy S4 has, but I took this this photo with my S4 through the car window early this morning. I was stopping at the light and can't believe the sky is filled with colors...

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Fuji x100s + Canon Speedlites?
« on: November 12, 2013, 09:45:33 AM »
Took this about a half hour ago with the yn622 and 580exii at 1/8th.

Very cute ;) It looks like you having fun ;D

I have two (2.5 & 5yrs)

Thank you :D

2.5 and 5 year old? I hope it's not as painful an experience as the one I have over here with my 1 and 7 year old.

It has been fun this weekend shooting with the new rig. I almost hate to say it, but I don't know that I'll be reaching for my other rig very often for a while unless there is some very specific thing I need to do that I can't figure out a way to accomplish with the Fuji.
I have been very impressed with the IQ and noise handling even at higher ISOs. The AF is plenty fast for almost all applications that I encounter regularly and it is jam packed with most of the tools I'll need on the fly.

The fact that it also works well with my existing lighting equipment is even better. That leaf shutter + ND filter.....I just can't say enough about them.

+1...not a lot of people understand it though

With 2 kids, the last thing I want to do is to carry 5D III + 24-70 to disneyland. I have Sony A7 + Zeiss 55mm on pre-order. If this camera works out as I planned, I might just end up with one 5D III + 135L and 70-200 for shooting kids running around.(selling list will be: 5D III, 50L, 85L II, and 24-70).

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