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EOS Bodies / Re: It may be quite a wait for the 5Ds and 5Ds R
« on: February 06, 2015, 09:22:49 PM »
The various articles that I read about the new full frames had gotten me hot to trot.  I am excited about the 5Ds R as both a landscape and a closeup camera and was ready to pull the trigger.  I'd assumed that today's anticipated announcement would mean that I could pre-order today and I was prepared to wait a few weeks for delivery.  But, no one's allowing pre-orders at this time and to my dismay, the Amazon website says no pre-orders until April 30!  That suggests that it may be July before these cameras are actually in consumers' hands. That's a long time to wait for a product and, to be honest, I wish Canon had either been quicker to get these cameras to market or had delayed its announcement by a couple of months.  Getting my hopes up and then telling me that I'll have to wait -- probably for 1/2 year -- is a bummer. :-[

Were you around for the 5D3 release ?    ......   

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5Ds and EOS 5Ds R Preview
« on: February 06, 2015, 03:56:24 PM »
It's just that to achieve this detail a lot of conditions have to be met at the same time, i.e. "studio work" or "controlled setting" or "tripod landscape". You cannot just snap away and expect 50mp to be sharp at pixel level - and if it isn't, there's really no point to go for this resolution in the first place.

Err, aren't lots of shots done in the studio, controlled settings or on a tripod?  Especially professional work.

That's what it's for . . .

Well yeah, thats also Chuck makes the point about a more robust tripod mount, controlled shutter, delay timing and so on. 

Nearly all my landscape shots are done on a Manfrotto 055 tripod, live view/mirror up, and remote shutter, manual focus, manual exposure (watching the histogram) with info on, and a bracket 1/3 - 2/3 each way.  Then its on to extensive post with Capture One, then PS + NIK + Topaz, all in 10-bit/channel  ProPhotoRGB color workflow.  Yeah, time consuming - and I do stare at images for hours.

Now I did rent an A7R + Metabones for a couple weeks last year.  Did side-by-sides with the 5DS.  The A7R shots did have a different quality - more resolution of course, and a bit more contrasty - a different 'feel' or tone.  As I work through sets, I am using some from the A7R and some from the 5D3.  Yes, you heard me, sometimes I do prefer the 5D3 shot over the A7R.

I am still thinking about using an A7R as an alternate "camera back" on shoots.  I'd love to consider it for primary work, but as I noted in another post, I dont think the EVF replaces an optical viewfinder (though it has some nice features like peaking and will get better); nor do I like the small size (big hands); or the layered menu system (reminds me of some Yaesu HAM radios where I have to bring the manual to remember the option numbers).  But I may still get one.   June is four months away and maybe Sony will surprise.

But for now, the 5DS R will take care of my #1 need - resolution for prints.  I have the super computer, could use some 4K Eizo or NEC PA monitors now :)   Everything else is irrelevant to my shooting or can be handled in post.

Unless I decide to go crazy and get a 645Z.


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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5Ds & EOS 5Ds R Image & Video Samples
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:48:21 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQ9cIp9RqY#t=11

Blam. You're welcome.

Video mode wasn't used once during the making of that photo time-lapse.

Yep, but an inverted tilt-shift was.  Geesh.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: February 06, 2015, 12:09:51 AM »
I dont see anything about color-optimized CFA. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:40:49 PM »
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-5Ds.aspx

"The headline feature for this camera is unquestionably the 50.6 MP full frame CMOS sensor, designed and produced completely by Canon (according to Chuck Westfall). Here is a chart comparing some current and recent EOS camera models."

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:32:49 PM »
Adorama has more detail in specs

Do a search for 5Ds R, for some reason 5Ds returns a blank screen.

Thanks - actually the BH specs page is pretty robust.

I heard news of a 50MP Sony release...  it would be interesting to see if the resolution specs line up.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:20:37 PM »
Thanks takesome...

Yeah, June 2015,,, at 3700 and 3900 (R)

Well, ok, in time for summer and fall shooting.  Might relax my capital expenditure needs a bit if I have two more months to wait.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:11:42 PM »
Arkarch, I think I said the same thing in a different way. Roll on the people who can get the very best out of these new cameras, it isn't for me or my market at this point, but I can well see the people who do want it.

Funnily enough for the occasional uses I could get out of them I could do without AF too, I always MF with the 17TS-E (duh!) and the 100 L Macro when I do product work, can you imagine the backlash if it had no AF? Yet I would guess that for the target market AF is next to useless.

Thanks, and yes I picked up on your take a bit.

I agree on AF - most all my landscape shooting (and as you can see by the healthy dose of MF-only lenses in the footer) is Manual Focus.  I need that control. 

But I will take advantage of AF for my Motorsports work - nothing like a rocketship focus with a 300 / 2.8 II.  In fact, I expect some fabulous deep-cropping with this machine - take the 300 + the TC 2.0 on a 8688 x 5792  canvas and well.. magic!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 10:54:12 PM »
Just a mini-rant -

  Can everyone else be happy that some of us photographers who primarily do landscape work now have a camera that does what we would like it to do?

  Some of us were rather bummed that the 5D3 did not have all the resolution and dynamic range that we had hoped for.  But we got by. We even endured the Nikon exodus knowing our glass was worth the patience.   Now (we think we have) something for our 100 ISO, Mirror Up, Remote Shutter boring lives that can produce no-compromise 30" 300 DPI color-optimized CFA high DR images for our customers.   When I am up at 4 am to be on a dawn shoot, that is what I want - something that might get us closer to the $36000 Phase One or 8x10 Large Format film scanned cams used by Las Vegas Strip gallery pros (closer, no, not equal, but competitive enough)

  This is not your next gen 5D4.  That comes in the fall by best accounts.   I hope we can bash about ISO and FPS and 4K Video and WiFi and GPS and Pop-up Flash then.  I know, a boring WPPI at the MGM.  And maybe a punt on a higher FPS sports season.  Or a lack of cooler Vimeos.    But we landscapers have been waiting a long time.

/rant (and with a smile!)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 03:25:46 PM »
The sony was just a painful camera to use. The evf is very hard to use as it isn't very detailed- i.e., you can't see the expression of someone you are shooting if they further back full length from the camera. The evf also lags badly and smudges when its dark.

I rented a Sony A7R to complement my 5D3 during a two-week fall trip last year.  While I loved the 36MP and better DR; the EVF was unusable for careful filter and compositional work.  Its really bad when yellow aspens look green in the viewfinder, let alone try to figure out the placement of a ND Grad.  Focus Peaking was nice however.  My takeaway after two weeks - the A7R would be a fine alternate camera back - work and composite with the 5D, then replace with the A7R.  Had Canon not announced a high MP, that would have been my 2015 strategy.  But thankfully the 5DS is here so I can work everything out in the primary.

Now this is not a slam on Mirrorless...  The A7R is a breakthrough camera.  I just think EVF technology needs to improve.   

For me personally, I think I will long-term be a DSLR guy - I see better than 20/20 at long (not so good close with contacts), so I want to keep that viewing advantage while I still have it.

This doesn't make any sense to me. :)

Why does color matter through the viewfinder if shooting RAW? You shoot RAW right?

How on Earth is it hard to place filters using the EVF? I use my Live View LCD for this very specific reason. Why is an EVF different? Why can't you use the rear LCD?

The word "unusable" brings images in my mind of people in infomercials who fall off a cliff when trying to eat their morning cereal with a regular spoon. Or can't open a cabinet without ripping the door off and having the house fall down. :)

I'm only being partially snarky, as I have not used the EVF in the A7, but I've used enough of them to question what you are having issues with? Just curious.

For composition, knowing where the yellow, orange, and green aspens are is helpful.  Yes, that is a narrow example, but what I am saying is - the A7R EVF is not an accurate representation of the scene.

As for ND Grad filters, I can see the change in exposure through the 5D3 viewfinder. I can not discriminate as well with 5D3 Live View (especially a soft 0.3) - I always go back to the viewfinder for that final lineup.

Beyond that, your own personal experience and those of others may help evaluate your usability of the EVF.  And I do put in the caveat that I see better long, so that may be part of my own experience.

(yes, I shoot RAW.  I also have 10-bit/channel calibrated workflow; and do extensive color harmony - but it all starts at the source, and color does impact composition)

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Images of the Canon EOS 5DS R
« on: February 05, 2015, 03:08:25 PM »
Really, Canon? You build a "landscape" camera and don't include a built-in viewfinder cover?

That is what the shipping box is used for.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 02:56:39 PM »
The sony was just a painful camera to use. The evf is very hard to use as it isn't very detailed- i.e., you can't see the expression of someone you are shooting if they further back full length from the camera. The evf also lags badly and smudges when its dark.

I rented a Sony A7R to complement my 5D3 during a two-week fall trip last year.  While I loved the 36MP and better DR; the EVF was unusable for careful filter and compositional work.  Its really bad when yellow aspens look green in the viewfinder, let alone try to figure out the placement of a ND Grad.  Focus Peaking was nice however.  My takeaway after two weeks - the A7R would be a fine alternate camera back - work and composite with the 5D, then replace with the A7R.  Had Canon not announced a high MP, that would have been my 2015 strategy.  But thankfully the 5DS is here so I can work everything out in the primary.

Now this is not a slam on Mirrorless...  The A7R is a breakthrough camera.  I just think EVF technology needs to improve.   

For me personally, I think I will long-term be a DSLR guy - I see better than 20/20 at long (not so good close with contacts), so I want to keep that viewing advantage while I still have it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Images of the Canon EOS 5DS R
« on: February 05, 2015, 12:18:14 PM »

Exactly what I expected.

I see this as an opportunity build for Canon - a "one-off".  They got a High MP sensor and put it into an existing package.  Tweak the firmware to fit the sensor and get it out of development as response to the landscape and studio market.

Now they can get back to finalizing and rolling out the 5D4 for the wedding, portrait, sports folks - their top selling markets.

As for me - perfect. No change against the 5D3.  And I can continue to use my growing pile of batteries.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 12:07:11 PM »
Currently I'm still concentrating on adding to my lens collection as quickly as I can without upsetting my wife.  My next purchases will be either a 100-400 II or 300 2.8 II.  Probably at least 6 months off since I'm currently in the dog house...

I got the 300 2.8 II last year.  Definitely a hold-your-breath purchase; but I have no regrets.  Its an amazing machine that does sports photography (along with its 400 cousin) very very well.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5DS & EOS 5DS R Press Release
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:58:32 AM »
I am just delighted Canon said the word "Landscape".

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