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EOS Bodies / Re: The writing on the wall
« on: March 08, 2012, 04:31:45 PM »
Sony is a very large corporation; but the sensor group is only a small piece of the overall picture.  They only get their share of the resources.  And certainly there is a Profit/Loss the Sony Director has to account for when that group looks for budget every year.

And what is Sony's agenda?  They tend to be a consumer company.  Does it make sense for them to be putting huge resources in pro-level sensors?  Maybe in some ways; or they benefit somewhat from the television/broadcasting/digital film group - I dont know how their internal structure is organized.

Does Sony and Nikon have the same agenda?  What happens if Sony grows disinterested in pro-level sensors?   What if the 36 mp sensor was Sony's decision based on consumer-high-mp goals and did that influence Nikon's design?

Canon has a benefit here.  While consumer is huge, they remain dedicated to pro-level technology.

Just questions.

EOS Bodies / Re: Not shipping the 5D Markiii til next month?
« on: March 08, 2012, 11:50:13 AM »
Might be a miscommunication somewhere, considering:

I have confirmed March 22, 2012 as the for sale date in both Canada and the United States. Cameras will arrive before that date to retailers, but cannot be sold until then.

Somebody is wrong...

That was my thought.

Typical internal corporate confusion.

I tend to believe the March 22 date more because it looks like an active response to a dealer issue.

(though perhaps it is an optimistic date)


 First, I almost always use a tripod and I'm well aware that an ISO of 100 is the ideal and I strive to keep the ISO as low as possible. However, there will always be some circumstances that don't allow for ideal settings. Sometimes even with a tripod you just can't get the shot at ISO 100, particularly when you're stopped down to f/8 and using filters, which is where having the option to boost ISO becomes a big help and may make all the difference.

 Second, of course the 5D3 is not the perfect landscape camera. There's really no such thing. It won't suit every landscape photographer's needs. The 5D3 will suit the needs of some and the D800 will suit the needs of others.

Well said,

  And adding my earlier comments about elements of scene moving.  And that many landscape guys work "golden hour" sunsets and sunrises or even very dark conditions.  Landscape Photography, like other forms, is a very diverse field and no one tool is going to fit all the situations or preferences. 


Regarding official "Sample Pictures".

The Marketing Departments of both Canon and Nikon are Fail.

There are several efforts out there, and no doubt we'll start getting nice stuff once the community has a chance.

The BS argument not to take RAW images because you can't convert them yet - and to make that argument means they were not prepared for the question.  I guess too many consumer-oriented marketing hacks in the pro-line divisions.

Thanks, great topic.

I have the 10-22 EF-S and yes, its time to get the EF equivalent as I move up to FF.  Makes no sense to have a wide on a crop if you got a FF. 

Mixed reviews on the Canon 16-35.  I can cover the top half of that with the apparently very excellent and new 24-70 II. 

But for everything under 20mm ....  maybe primes are the answer?  I think most of my wide shooting is at crop 10 or 12, and rarely in the middle.

Just my two cents. Now I'm off to Jasper for a cpl of days of photography after a huge dump of snow. :)

Thanks Jurak!

Have a great shoot in Jaspar.

I do get your point and understand it. Having better grain/DR at higher ISO is always welcome. It certainly is.
However I would prefer higher resolution/mp in most landscape or product photography situation.
Please compare two photos, one with 22mp and the other with 40mp to see the difference.

Yep, and I get your point about high MP.  Having both capabilities would be a potent combination.   

As a current 7D shooter, my first goal is reach FF.  And after several lengthy post-process sessions with DxO, Nik, LR, PS and my NEC wide-gamut to disassemble then reassemble low light shots to dump noise (and there is plenty in the 7D), I am really gun-shy about anything with potential noise.

So for that reason, I do hope that if Canon does come out with a high MP monster - that it has reasonable low light performance.  Otherwise there are many options for high MP later.  Its good to see Nikon at least dare to  enter Digitial MF territory with a DSLR format even if I remain wary on this first attempt.

For now, I think the 5DMIII will serve me well in the Landscape area :)

I humbly disagree.
Any serious landscape photographer will use a solid tripod and low low ISO.

Even on the tripod...

Clouds move.

Stars move.

Moments happen - a billowing of clouds over the rockies; the moment dawn breaks; the leaves in an autumn wind; the capture of a fleeting light beam in a slot canyon. 

The world does not stop to match a long time exposure just to accommodate ISO 100.

Having the exposure range to take advantage of challenging conditions is important - sometimes its all you have to capture a magical once-in-a-lifetime moment nobody else will get.

Sure, high MP has its advantages and I am sure many will get great images that way. 

But it will not do everything, even if everything you do is on a tripod

(and yes, most all my shots are Manfrotto tripod, mirror-up, wireless remote trigger)

I applaud Canon's efforts to fix noise, improve DR.  Nearly 1 Stop better on Raw over the 5DMarkII is quite good for me - over an already incredible workhorse landscape camera.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon 5D mark III raws
« on: March 06, 2012, 06:26:32 PM »
are you guys able to open the CR2 files?

Canon's ZoomBrowser should be able to open them.  It opened a few CR2's from another article the other day.  Wont be able to try myself until later.

When you say low light landscape work, are you looking for high iso to replace a good tripod?  Hope not.
I would want the highest resolution and cleanest **low** iso files I could get.  D800E is the answer.

And thats just it.  If you are forced to use longer exposures, clouds will move.  And with HDR, moved clouds dont work too well in the stack.  You almost have to disassemble the image in Photoshop to save some of those elements.

I suppose if you shoot mostly sun-lit landscapes, then ISO 100 on a D800 is fine.  Yeah there are some resolution issues with lenses perhaps, but getting the extra resolution for that wall-size print is great.

But there are many shots in the landscape world where lighting is less than idea.  Storms, nightscapes, etc.  And I may want to keep those clouds tight, or those stars sharp.   

And I want that without noise.

Canon General / Re: Canon Celebrates 25 Years of EOS
« on: March 05, 2012, 02:22:57 PM »
I am also celebrating twenty-five years of EOS , but a different EOS.  God I'm old.

Go EOS, in whatever form!

EOS Bodies / Re: Apparently, Nikon users are switching to Canon...
« on: March 04, 2012, 08:33:17 PM »
I am not seeing a great deal of movement either way in the landscape world, based on commentary on those forums regarding the 5DM3 and D800.   Price of upgrade is likely a point of consideration.  But others seem content with what they already use.  Keeping the 5DM2 in the lineup was probably a great decision by Canon.

Speaking for myself in landscape photography, MF-level detail is wonderful, but I do not want to be stuck at ISO 100 shooting.  Many landscape shots are done in low light - sunsets, night shots, storms and other dynamic lighting conditions.  These scenes are most often taken on a tripod, mirror-up, etc - but this does not freeze clouds, stars, and other time elements. 

That said, I think there will be some interesting approaches taken in the landscape world with both cameras.  And I suspect many pros will wait until the cameras are here before they decide on their direction, if any upgrade occurs at all.

Any perspective from studio photographers?

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII pre-order thread
« on: March 02, 2012, 05:47:57 PM »
I want the 70-200 2.8 II IS, but right now I have the 70-200 2.8 non IS. I'm hoping to upgrade soon but I wonder if it's a big enough difference to get or just get the new  EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II But the 5D blew my budget  :o

From my own research, and now use, the version II is a big step up from the version I copies (including the non-IS).  Quite sharp.

As to whether I would initially favor it over the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II, I guess that depends on your shooting.

EOS Bodies / Re: Buy the 5D III or wait for the 5D IV?
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:56:15 PM »
There is the high MP version that has been bantered about. 

I know some of the landscape guys seem to be holding out for that.

Beyond that - a number of convenience features could be useful - new media formats; integrated wireless and GPS; so on.  But as an image maker, I expect we are reaching diminishing return.

The Cinema DSLR is likely the next thing.

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