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I humbly disagree.
Any serious landscape photographer will use a solid tripod and low low ISO.

Even on the tripod...

Clouds move.

Stars move.

Moments happen - a billowing of clouds over the rockies; the moment dawn breaks; the leaves in an autumn wind; the capture of a fleeting light beam in a slot canyon. 

The world does not stop to match a long time exposure just to accommodate ISO 100.

Having the exposure range to take advantage of challenging conditions is important - sometimes its all you have to capture a magical once-in-a-lifetime moment nobody else will get.

Sure, high MP has its advantages and I am sure many will get great images that way. 

But it will not do everything, even if everything you do is on a tripod

(and yes, most all my shots are Manfrotto tripod, mirror-up, wireless remote trigger)

I applaud Canon's efforts to fix noise, improve DR.  Nearly 1 Stop better on Raw over the 5DMarkII is quite good for me - over an already incredible workhorse landscape camera.

EOS Bodies / Re: New Canon 5D mark III raws
« on: March 06, 2012, 06:26:32 PM »
are you guys able to open the CR2 files?

Canon's ZoomBrowser should be able to open them.  It opened a few CR2's from another article the other day.  Wont be able to try myself until later.

When you say low light landscape work, are you looking for high iso to replace a good tripod?  Hope not.
I would want the highest resolution and cleanest **low** iso files I could get.  D800E is the answer.

And thats just it.  If you are forced to use longer exposures, clouds will move.  And with HDR, moved clouds dont work too well in the stack.  You almost have to disassemble the image in Photoshop to save some of those elements.

I suppose if you shoot mostly sun-lit landscapes, then ISO 100 on a D800 is fine.  Yeah there are some resolution issues with lenses perhaps, but getting the extra resolution for that wall-size print is great.

But there are many shots in the landscape world where lighting is less than idea.  Storms, nightscapes, etc.  And I may want to keep those clouds tight, or those stars sharp.   

And I want that without noise.

Canon General / Re: Canon Celebrates 25 Years of EOS
« on: March 05, 2012, 02:22:57 PM »
I am also celebrating twenty-five years of EOS , but a different EOS.  God I'm old.

Go EOS, in whatever form!

EOS Bodies / Re: Apparently, Nikon users are switching to Canon...
« on: March 04, 2012, 08:33:17 PM »
I am not seeing a great deal of movement either way in the landscape world, based on commentary on those forums regarding the 5DM3 and D800.   Price of upgrade is likely a point of consideration.  But others seem content with what they already use.  Keeping the 5DM2 in the lineup was probably a great decision by Canon.

Speaking for myself in landscape photography, MF-level detail is wonderful, but I do not want to be stuck at ISO 100 shooting.  Many landscape shots are done in low light - sunsets, night shots, storms and other dynamic lighting conditions.  These scenes are most often taken on a tripod, mirror-up, etc - but this does not freeze clouds, stars, and other time elements. 

That said, I think there will be some interesting approaches taken in the landscape world with both cameras.  And I suspect many pros will wait until the cameras are here before they decide on their direction, if any upgrade occurs at all.

Any perspective from studio photographers?

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII pre-order thread
« on: March 02, 2012, 05:47:57 PM »
I want the 70-200 2.8 II IS, but right now I have the 70-200 2.8 non IS. I'm hoping to upgrade soon but I wonder if it's a big enough difference to get or just get the new  EF 24-70mm f/2.8L II But the 5D blew my budget  :o

From my own research, and now use, the version II is a big step up from the version I copies (including the non-IS).  Quite sharp.

As to whether I would initially favor it over the EF 24-70 f/2.8L II, I guess that depends on your shooting.

EOS Bodies / Re: Buy the 5D III or wait for the 5D IV?
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:56:15 PM »
There is the high MP version that has been bantered about. 

I know some of the landscape guys seem to be holding out for that.

Beyond that - a number of convenience features could be useful - new media formats; integrated wireless and GPS; so on.  But as an image maker, I expect we are reaching diminishing return.

The Cinema DSLR is likely the next thing.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5DIII pre-order thread
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:50:59 PM »
Adorama, 9:41 Pacific (12:41 Eastern). 

I probably lost 5 minutes messing around with the interface to be sure I had it correct.

EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3...Ok so it's official, when's it coming!?
« on: March 02, 2012, 01:15:53 AM »
We'll see if it beats my broken 7D (now in repair) back to my doorstep.

I'm sure they want to beat the D800 shipments.  But it does seem a bit aggressive based on past history.

I'll say sometime in April.

Wonder what the 1DX folks are thinking if they manage that?

EOS Bodies / Re: BH has it up
« on: March 02, 2012, 12:52:19 AM »
Completed order from Adorama, Receipt 12:41 am.

I also do not believe the End of March date.  April maybe - heh.

So is it Black Friday yet?

EOS Bodies / Re: BH has it up
« on: March 02, 2012, 12:13:22 AM »
Got an immediate backorder on BH

Adorama has a lead page, but dead link at this moment.

EOS Bodies / Re: Projected MkIII vs MkII for landscape photography
« on: March 01, 2012, 08:19:14 PM »

If the DR and ISO improvements are what is expected, then I prefer the Mark III for the artistic headroom it will provide.

Even in tripod shots, you got the element of time - how soft or crisp will be the clouds? or the stars? or the time you have to capture a light beam in a dark slot canyon; or that stormy weather on top of a mountain?  Plus there are factors like DOF, HDR assemblies to contend with.

I dont have a 5D Mark II to compare.  But my experience with just getting a 70-200 IS II with 4-stop stabilization opened up a bunch of freedoms.  I suspect the new Canons will do the same in the form of artistic expression.

(one more attempt at posting)

Before Ted's Camera 5D Mark III link went down

I compared prices BH vs them to get ratios

The D800 is 79%  (BH - $3000 vs Teds - $3800)
The D4 is 76% (BH - 6000 vs Teds - $7900)
The 5D Mark II is 92% (BH - $2400 vs Ted's - $2600)

Ted's price 5D Mark III - $4200
Suggesting a range of $3200 - $3800 for the 5D Mark III.

Oh, The Ted's link did go down about 9:30 am their time... hmmm, wonder if they got a phone call :)

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