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EOS Bodies / Re: Demand for High Mega Pixel Body vs 60Da
« on: April 06, 2012, 10:58:30 AM »
Canon is smart.  They are market driven.  If they see a demand, they release it.  I don't think they 'demand' you see is real.

Possible, but Canon may not have technology to provide a quality high mpx in a cost effective manner. They did prototype a high mpx a couple of years back, but no words on it and whether or not it would be available. May be that project flopped and Canon is scrambling to compete against high mpx coming from Nikon and Sony.

Lets face it, high mpx is in demand, as proven by crazy demand for D800... its demand is almost solely due to its high mpx.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Day At The Track 5DIII
« on: April 01, 2012, 07:28:21 PM »
The first shot is absolutely fantastic! Thanks for sharing.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DigitaRev Canon 5D MKIII vs. Nikon 800
« on: March 31, 2012, 12:12:28 PM »
I love the comment about having a cup of tea while waiting on the D800 to write to the card.

You must own 3.5" floppies, in which case, you might want to upgrade your RAM to 125KB as well.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 30, 2012, 01:59:55 AM »
This was one of the downfalls that I saw in regards to the D800.

With that high of a megapixel count, you WILL get astonishing details.

HOWEVER, women will most likely end up not liking/hating the photo. The level of detail is so high that when inspected closely, you can see every single hair, every single wrinkle, every single blemish, any tiny makeup blemishes--all will be visible. Every single "flaw" will be apparent.

So each photo you take of them will have to be heavily processed. The processing is going to take up a LOT of your time. Plus, if you're not careful or an expert, the photos will look over-processed. By this, I mean when people touch up the skin it ends up looking too blemish-free and thus fake.

I think you are missing the point. With D800, if you don't want details given its processing requirements, you can always use cheap lens or even defocus lens to get the soft look. But its real power is when you DO want details. The detail is there IF you need it. If not, there are many non-pp ways to soften the images, like crappy lenses, cheap uv filters, and even mayonnaise like the olden days of dreamy portraits!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5D III RAW @12800 w/ NR in LR4
« on: March 30, 2012, 01:54:00 AM »
People love my bird shots...and most of them see mere PRINTS, which probably have about 6 stops of DR at most!

Who cares about prints? It's all about blowing your images up to 100%, and popping wood over all the detail you can see :o

A good night in is turning the tevision off and pixel peeping a 36mp landscape  ;D ;D ;D

Now Landscapes are an area where I honestly believe the D800 will really shine. I would love to have 36mp at my disposal for my landscape work...that would be amazing.

But, but, prints only have DR of 6 and I who is going to have time to scan through the picture for unnecessary "details"? My facebook album can show enough detail on my iphone!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 29, 2012, 08:36:53 PM »
i donĀ“t know why this forum is called EOS BODIES.. when all the nikon stuff is posted here.

im not interested in reading about nikon when i visit the EOS BODIES forum....

why is no mod moving this thread?

I can only speak for myself, but I think D800 is getting noticed is because it THE best camera for fraction of the cost (i.e. value!) with off the charts (literally) performance.

Look at more detail:

http://pcfoto.biz/images/testovi/Nikon_D800E_preview/048_T10p_galerija_n70-200_f2-8gVRII_jpg.jpg

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 28, 2012, 01:47:08 AM »
I am half looking at a real MF - the D800 would be just a faux MF. Would rather have a 80Mb MF

Good luck finding that for $3000.

D800 is a killer in resolution, DR, and even low light... its resolution and DR compares to MFDBs and its low light performance compares with D4. What more can you ask for?

Price is not the issue - I would expect somewhere in the region of $35k which is what you have to pay for the best.

I dont think in my remotist dreams think that a 36mp D800 will compare with a 80mp MF.

Low light performance? Iso 200 is fine for me with a MF. You dont shoot sports with a MF

Sorry, but it was YOU who compared D800 to MFDB. Highlighted above in red, you said that you were "half looking at a MF". That is comparing, still.

What hogwash you talk. I can only assume you are a Nikon fanboy who is convinced that the D800 is better than a 80Mb MF. Read the other threads in this forum and it will be apparent that it doesn't hold a candle to a good MF. The only valid point you have made is that at $3000 it is cheap for 36Mb

Sorry, again, but you are the only only one who is constantly talking about "80Mb(sic) MF". I simply think D800 is very detailed, hence this post. Comparing it against larger format systems is what you are doing.

Me thinks you are a little insecure.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 27, 2012, 08:19:31 PM »
I am half looking at a real MF - the D800 would be just a faux MF. Would rather have a 80Mb MF

Good luck finding that for $3000.

D800 is a killer in resolution, DR, and even low light... its resolution and DR compares to MFDBs and its low light performance compares with D4. What more can you ask for?

Price is not the issue - I would expect somewhere in the region of $35k which is what you have to pay for the best.

I dont think in my remotist dreams think that a 36mp D800 will compare with a 80mp MF.

Low light performance? Iso 200 is fine for me with a MF. You dont shoot sports with a MF

Sorry, but it was YOU who compared D800 to MFDB. Highlighted above in red, you said that you were "half looking at a MF". That is comparing, still.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 27, 2012, 05:22:31 PM »
I am half looking at a real MF - the D800 would be just a faux MF. Would rather have a 80Mb MF

Good luck finding that for $3000.

D800 is a killer in resolution, DR, and even low light... its resolution and DR compares to MFDBs and its low light performance compares with D4. What more can you ask for?

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You know we want the usual, resolution, DR, but yes, also the ergonomics and the user interface.

I've been using Canon for ages, they just feel natural and work intuitively IMO.  I just got a little D5100 cuz it was easier to figure out than a D7000 for my first foray into their gear and still can provide excellent IQ.

I'd like to know how quickly you can reconfigure the D800 to optimize it for a rapidly changing scene.
E.g.  Can you quickly adjust the ISO, focus mode and AF point selection, shooting mode, aperture or shutter speed and then fire off a shot in a second or 2?

I can do that with the Canons I'm used to using, despite them trying to confuse me by rearranging the button layout on nearly every new body!  And I was able to do so quickly with my first Canon DLSR.

With the D5100 or worse yet, the D7000, I struggle to locate things I want to adjust quickly.  Icons and names of functions are sometimes not intuitive or downright different.  I know more practice with it will help but user interface has often befuddled me on Nikons.  Has the D800 improved in this regard?

That is our biggest concern as well... but photographers learn new interfaces and a little practice before major applications certainly help, hopefully. It is similar to OSx vs Windows... different interfaces, but people get used to switching after a while, especially if photography is what they spend their time on.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 26, 2012, 11:29:16 PM »
Look at her lower lips area at 100%  :o  :'( This camera is not meant for taking portraits of women.  :-X

http://www.bezergheanu.com/Other/Test-Nikon-D800/i-BN6QTnD/0/O/LAN1776.jpg

I suppose I'm the only one who finds women with facial hair rather sexy :D Distracting facial hair aside, this is one of the better sample image, IQ wise, from the D800 I've seen thus far.

I agree IQ wise, D800 is in another league. But the subject here is really not being portrayed in the most flattering manner.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 26, 2012, 11:27:06 PM »
I don't think it's been over-sharpened. Looks like a bad light set-up, or she needs to shave her lower lip next time. It looks really bad, as a portrait.

That's MHO

I agree. Given the already intense detail, narrow aperture, and 85mm right on the face, the lighting illuminating the hairs are not going to help either.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 26, 2012, 11:25:16 PM »
Seems to me to have been over sharpened

That, or the detail is simply overpowering. Probably a combination of both rendering a disgusting photo of a beautiful woman.

A few more pictures like that showing the D800 capabilities and the 5DIII will be the best seller :)

May be that will be 5D3's marketing line: we render soft images, so your models' faces will appear silky smooth!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 26, 2012, 11:19:02 PM »
Seems to me to have been over sharpened

That, or the detail is simply overpowering. Probably a combination of both rendering a disgusting photo of a beautiful woman.

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EOS Bodies / Women will hate D800 *full size image*
« on: March 26, 2012, 11:09:16 PM »
Look at her lower lips area at 100%  :o  :'( This camera is not meant for taking portraits of women.  :-X

http://www.bezergheanu.com/Other/Test-Nikon-D800/i-BN6QTnD/0/O/LAN1776.jpg


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