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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:19:18 PM »
The nikon sample just slaughters the canon.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Dynamic Range
« on: May 06, 2012, 12:25:24 AM »If your camera captures the scene perfectly without spending an hour rigging things up it's not poor technique.
It's called not wasting time and getting a more natural looking results to boot. And it's called also being able to make more spontaneously shot stuff and large-scale stuff look better.
Actually, flash is a lot like makeup. A good lighting job will look much more natural than natural light, just like a model with a good makeup job doesn't look like she's wearing any makeup at all.
And that really cuts to the heart of the matter, and to why I keep pounding on the fact that, if the 5DIII is inadequate, then so is the D800.
If the scene is so contrasty that you really need 14 clean stops instead of 12 clean stops, you're shooting in bad light. Not insufficient light, but bad light. And the purpose of flash or other modifiers at that point is only secondarily to add light to the scene. That's incidental, an oh-by-the-way benefit. the real purpose is to fix the light. You know? Add depth and dimesion, sculpt the subject, separate it from its background or surroundings, that sort of thing. And I don't give a damn how much you play with sliders in Lightroom or even with a Wacom airbrush, that's stuff you simply can't do in post if you're even coming close to bumping up against the 5DIII's DR limits.
Once more, with feeling: if the 5DIII hase inadequate dynamic range (or megapixels), the answer isn't to be found in the D800. It's to be found in fixing the light or using some other technique (like HDR or graduated ND filters or whatever). And if you need more megapickles, you either need a multi-shot panorama or you need a larger sensor format.
Really, people. The differences between the two cameras in terms of image quality amounts to little more than a rounding error.
Cheers,
b&
Lol. Try "fixing the light" in the middle of the Bob Marshall Wilderness. Once more, with feeling: Huge advantage for people who shoot nature, moving or not.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D Mark III doesn't live up to expectations in real world shooting...
« on: May 06, 2012, 12:21:18 AM »(even then, I would question the focusing system as it seems to be a little soft).
Reminds me of the 7D. I don't like these mushy images Canon cameras are producing (the 5D II is not among them).
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon fixed 5DIII light leak with tape
« on: May 04, 2012, 09:38:16 PM »Whether or not this kind of tape is used in other electronics doesn't matter. What matters is perception, and applying duct tape to a $3500 camera is not a perception of strength and quality.
Perception is all that matters?
I would think functionality matters most, no?
Perception triggers the Buy Button, functionality is when you turn the gear on for the first time.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: D800 v. 5D3 threads: What should Canon's takeaway be?
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:54:20 PM »
A someone who has, and continues to shoot strictly Canon, there are two things I come away with here:
1. Canon is damaging its reputation with $3500 cameras that can't auto focus with F8 lenses. This is an incredibly petulant feature-lock meant to make people purchase far more expensive lenses to obtain desired reach. It falls in line with their bitterly-cheap refusal to include lens hoods with non-L lenses. Also, their lens warranties fall far short of their competitor's.
2. Better sensor. Canon's images seem a hair off the last few years. There's a "waxy" look in all the bodies post-5D II.
1. Canon is damaging its reputation with $3500 cameras that can't auto focus with F8 lenses. This is an incredibly petulant feature-lock meant to make people purchase far more expensive lenses to obtain desired reach. It falls in line with their bitterly-cheap refusal to include lens hoods with non-L lenses. Also, their lens warranties fall far short of their competitor's.
2. Better sensor. Canon's images seem a hair off the last few years. There's a "waxy" look in all the bodies post-5D II.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Dynamic Range
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:42:56 PM »
The D800 is the 5D III's chief competitor. No lucid person would think otherwise.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Dynamic Range
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:28:17 PM »
There are techniques to avoid shadows in many cases - leaving very few exceptions - yet from the baying of the few anyone would think the 5DIII had a crippled DR system and totally unable to produce a good images.
I don't think it's "baying". This is a camera discussion forum, and these camera's aren't cheap. It's unreasonable and a bit naive to think that Canon's latest FF camera won't be compared to its chief competitor.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon fixed 5DIII light leak with tape
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:25:51 PM »
Whether or not this kind of tape is used in other electronics doesn't matter. What matters is perception, and applying duct tape to a $3500 camera is not a perception of strength and quality.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Dynamic Range
« on: May 04, 2012, 06:04:25 PM »
The D800 is simply on another level when it comes to low ISO dynamic range. This may or may not be "crucial" to you, but if you shoot nature images such as landscape and wildlife, it is the kind of thing that might make you switch camera manufacturers.
Being able to bring up such amazing shadow detail is priceless, and IMHO one of the most important aspects of nature photography.
The 5D III sensor is about 4-5 years behind the D800. I own all Canon gear, but am an inch from purchasing the D800E when it comes out.
The better the dynamic range, the less of a need for things like GND filters, HDR, and so forth. It really is important for situations where you have absolutely no control of the light such as nature landscape and wildlife.
Being able to bring up such amazing shadow detail is priceless, and IMHO one of the most important aspects of nature photography.
The 5D III sensor is about 4-5 years behind the D800. I own all Canon gear, but am an inch from purchasing the D800E when it comes out.
The better the dynamic range, the less of a need for things like GND filters, HDR, and so forth. It really is important for situations where you have absolutely no control of the light such as nature landscape and wildlife.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon, STOP shipping defective products!!!
« on: April 24, 2012, 04:46:52 PM »
I'm not really upset anymore. I just don't buy as much stuff as I used to, and try to maximize what I have. And You can bet that when my setup is working perfectly, I do not mess with it. I no longer upgrade camera bodies if mine is working properly. This is more important to me than new features for the most part.
I tried the 5D III, and owned the 5D II. Nice cameras, but the 7D really does what I need it to, with my only major complaint being the sensor. They packed too many pixels onto it. It'd be an awesome 16MP camera.
I tried the 5D III, and owned the 5D II. Nice cameras, but the 7D really does what I need it to, with my only major complaint being the sensor. They packed too many pixels onto it. It'd be an awesome 16MP camera.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon, STOP shipping defective products!!!
« on: April 24, 2012, 04:30:27 PM »
That was a pretty weak analogy, lol.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon, STOP shipping defective products!!!
« on: April 24, 2012, 04:12:26 PM »
I wholeheartedly agree with this thread.
I only buy new gear. These lenses/bodies have been defective:
300 F4 L IS (severe front focus that took three trips to fix)
17-40L (would not focus past 30mm. Took two trips to resolve)
70-300 IS (portrait orientation issue, recalled by Canon)
7D (severe focus issues, took two trips to repair. Right LCD zoom button stuck after two days also)
70-200 F4 L (front focus issues, one trip to repair)
17-55 IS (IS died within one year)
50 1.4 (AF died within one year, and died again within one year)
Almost every Canon lens I buy requires micro focus adjust. I just don't trust them. I have so much invested in their gear, that I don't want to leave. But I really wish they'd join the rest of the industry and offer four year warranties if they're not going to perform quality control tests before shipping units.
I still can't believe they're selling $10,000 lenses with a one year warranty. That's inexcusable.
I only buy new gear. These lenses/bodies have been defective:
300 F4 L IS (severe front focus that took three trips to fix)
17-40L (would not focus past 30mm. Took two trips to resolve)
70-300 IS (portrait orientation issue, recalled by Canon)
7D (severe focus issues, took two trips to repair. Right LCD zoom button stuck after two days also)
70-200 F4 L (front focus issues, one trip to repair)
17-55 IS (IS died within one year)
50 1.4 (AF died within one year, and died again within one year)
Almost every Canon lens I buy requires micro focus adjust. I just don't trust them. I have so much invested in their gear, that I don't want to leave. But I really wish they'd join the rest of the industry and offer four year warranties if they're not going to perform quality control tests before shipping units.
I still can't believe they're selling $10,000 lenses with a one year warranty. That's inexcusable.
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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: DxO results out for 5D3
« on: April 19, 2012, 11:06:05 PM »
Thanks for posting the results. There's no way in heck I'm buying the 5D III now. The D800 is the camera to have it seems.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark III Product Advisory
« on: April 16, 2012, 10:19:40 AM »
Canon quality control stinks.
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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7D... not Mk 2, Not anything, Just the 7D
« on: March 19, 2012, 02:23:34 PM »
Yeah the 7D just feels great in your hands. It's nice on a monopod in the rain, too, while waiting for a moose to come out of the wilderness.