« on: November 20, 2012, 02:58:58 PM »
Nikon one has more horsepower with less carbon dioxide emission!
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B&H USA expects the camera to be available on December 10, so hopefully it's sooner than later in December.
and hopefully they put the price down in january?
Just a word of warning. I don't think anyone should count on being able to choose between a new 6D and a new 5DII.
Once the 6D hits the shelves, expect the 5DII to disappear. At a minimum, all rebates and discounts on any remaining 5DIIs in dealers' stock will end and dealers will quit receiving any new shipments. Canon did a remarkable job of pulling the 580EXII and making it impossible to find. Expect the same with the 5DII.
Refurbished and used models will remain, but they could very well be selling for as much or more than new models are now going for.
It is not in Canon's best interests to allow consumers to choose between the 6D and a heavily discounted 5DII. By the time the 6D is available, your choices on the new market will be the 6D or the 5DIII.
To me this is all very simple:
The 6D seems like a fine camera for FF beginners. The problem is it should be about $1600, have a flipscreen, aimed at the video group, and fall in the xxD line, something like a 65D. Gimmicks like WiFi and GPS can remain (yes they are gimmicks, although useful for many, they are not core camera components).
For us that care more about core components like AF, view finder size, build and ergo, and even card type there is only 1 option which is the the very costly 5D3. Now that Canon has offered an xD alternative to the 5D3, there is little to no hope that Canon will offer a mid range FF body this cycle.
I think we can all agree there is a huge gap between the 5D3 and 6D. If the 6D was a xxD and the 6D was in-line with other xD (single digit) bodies, it would be good for us and good for Canon. I think there is plenty of room for a another $2500 FF body assuming the 6D is a xxD priced about $1600
For those telling us we are too cheap and unwilling to cough up the bucks for a 5D3, well, even in the year 2012 $3500 is a lot of money for a body and difficult to justify for many. Some just don't have it, others can't justify it. Canon will still likely get our money but in the form of glass and accessories so its not about being cheap.
For those telling us to run to Nikon, yes some will and have. For myself, I'm invested in Canon, I'm staying with Canon for several reasons.
I certainly understand Canon-F1's frustration and desire to send Canon a letter although I don't think it would be effective. Yes there are bigger issues in the world as one poster mentioned but that is partly why I visit CR to escape much of the BS in the world. Finally I think it is perfectly appropriate for someone to express their frustration or disappointment in a product spec or announcement as long as it's in moderation and appropriately stated.
As a 7D owner who plans to add a FF body to my gear, I have been waiting for this announcement. As the actual details of the Nikon D600 were released, I realized that what might be coming from Canon might also be more along those lines. These latest round of Canon specs seem to confirm that what's coming is more of a cannibalized version of several models than a stripped-down FF. All-in-all the specs from my perspective look puny for the price. I will wait for the "official announcement" before making any purchase but now I'm leaning in the direction of buying a 5D2. I think for my needs and budget this would give me everything I want in a known product (no surprises and or issues to stumble into with a brand new model) and the price keeps coming down.
The 5D MkIII sensor, 7D like autofocus, and a pop-up flash (probably with flash control) and it's not an upgrade over the MkII for the same price?.
if canon would be the only camera maker it sure looks like a good deal.
compared to the rumored D600... well... no.
and you have to understand the different needs.
for me the 5D MK3 sensor has no real advantage.
i shot below ISO 1600 99% of the time.
i shoot landscape, macro and home studio studio stuff.
85% of the time i use the center AF point.
i shot no video.
so why should people like me update to a 5D MK3 or this new FF camera?
from a company point of view it sure makes sense.
but we are individuals here, with individual needs.