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EOS Bodies / Re: No 1Ds IV? [CR1]
« on: November 10, 2010, 01:12:18 AM »
Is there any chance that Canon is thinking about a square sensor that is 31.5mm on each side? This format will use ALL the existing EF lens and take the bulk out of the medium format. Just like the  Rollieflex 127 in the OLD film days.

This topic has been covered before, and the conclusion was that it doesn't work for an EF dSLR because there is insufficient room for a mirror (to cover that field) between the lens and the detector. Canon would have to go EVIL to make an EF camera with a square super-FF detector. Then there is the issues with possible internal baffles on lenses (and the minor issue with tulip-shaped hoods).

A Pelical mirror set up may work, at least for shorter focal length. For super-telephoto, It will lost some view at the top.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 1Ds IV? [CR1]
« on: November 10, 2010, 01:01:53 AM »
What is the point of the 1Ds Mk** well part of it is in having a bigger camera than the customer!

If want to impress the customer, you can walk in with a M9 or a Hasselblad.

Sorry, but wrong and wrong.  If you want to impress the customer, show the customer your portfolio!

Today's customer would be pretty unimpressed by this guy's camera:



It seems that I have been misquoted. At the beginning of the  tread I actually suggested to use "FINAL RESULTs"(equals to portfolio) to impress customer. The last statement is trying to say "If you want to impress customer, D1 may not be enough, go all the way out with Leica M9 and Hasselblad, both are a lot more impressive than D1". Something is lost in my expression. Sorry about that you do not get the "joke"

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 1Ds IV? [CR1]
« on: November 09, 2010, 03:53:07 PM »
What is the point of the 1Ds Mk** well part of it is in having a bigger camera than the customer!  not much good if a pro turns up with a camera that the client thinks is nothing more special than the entry level models he sees wrapped around the necks of so many amateur

I am thinking the opposite. User should have a choice whether he want a big camera  to impress his customer or use his own reputation and final result to impress the customer.  Vertical grip should be an add on not a built in.
"size do not count, It is the performance that counts". If want to impress the customer, you can  walk in with a M9 or a Hasselblad.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Could that mean the 3D finally comes?
« on: November 09, 2010, 02:36:59 PM »
2) I don't think that the 7D needs to become full frame, it's fine where/how it is as a class leader in the APS-C market. The innovation that will matter there will be whether or not to do a Pelical mirror in the next rev.

Pelical mirror is a interesting idea. However, I think canon must have found out something that they do not like about Pelical. canon made the Pelical SLR in the 60's then give it up. As far as I know Canon held the pattern right on Pelical mirror in the SLR, and it has expired (just like the Leica  M mount pattern). Canon tried to bring it back again in the 90's and give it up again.  Does anyone know the reason behind it, besides the dimmer view finder. I am very curious to know.  Now Sony is trying to use it now .

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 1Ds IV? [CR1]
« on: November 09, 2010, 01:53:41 PM »

<p>The same person says it’s possible that a new camera at the top of the lineup aimed solely at the medium format market, but not a medium format camera, will come to fruition. The design will be a radical departure (possibly modular).</p>
<p>CR’s Take

We’ve heard rumblings about this in the past.</p>

Is there any chance that Canon is thinking about a square sensor that is 31.5mm on each side? This format will use ALL the existing EF lens and take the bulk out of the medium format. Just like the  Rollieflex 127 in the OLD film days.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 09, 2010, 12:10:56 PM »
The next acceptable mirrorless camera should be at least a APS-C sensor. Within this forum, a lot of people are saying that thier DSLR must be full frame, or they want to move from APS-C DSLR to FF.  do you think they will selltle for a 4/3 sensor.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 09, 2010, 12:05:55 PM »
Ummmm, I don't think that anyone else but you is thinking that Sony's DSLR with the APS-C sensor is the type of mirror-less camera that this thread is about.

Dilbert, You Just have made up your own conclusion. In all the discusion, I have never mention anything about Sony mirrorless DSLR. The example that I have quoted is the Sony NEX-5. ( the Sony mirrorless with  abig lens)We are all talking about the same group of cameras.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 09, 2010, 01:27:43 AM »
But yes, it seems like everyone except for one person has the same idea when it comes to the type of camera this thread is about :)

Dilbert,

What type of camera on this tread are you thinking about????

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 08, 2010, 10:42:03 PM »
The following is a Google translated version:   (Camera has been translated into Aircraft)
(some Translation are off, but we can guess what it really mean)
- If you want to focus on shooting video, I propose that it may approach another new system camera mirror-less machine.

For mirror-less aircraft, a method for me to meet the needs of miniaturized and have been answered one way I think.  Improvements from the list Refukamerayuza SLR, it will always rise above smaller and lighter. Apart from the presence of the mirror, in a compact camera, but we all thoroughly, and for certain demographic, demand has not been yet. Is at once respond to the needs and potential of these smaller, less I think it mirrors the current system of aircraft.  As long as interchangeable lenses, it is assumed that the performance drop of as a camera, possibly with the assumption of mirror-less, technology development has been conducted.

What plans there are commercialized?

If you make a machine inside the mirror-less Canon shall not have this much performance and functionality, we believe that a clear distinction. Comes out the possibility of product performance is clear that if asked, can not clear at this time.

 Performance in it will mean to you?

The basic speed of auto focus, response operations, Rerizuragu, EVF or delay the appearance of taste, is comprehensive. SLR cameras are using and comfortable, fast and feels just like I think it is important to use comfortably.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 08, 2010, 07:35:59 PM »
Unexposure, Thanks.  Regarding the market share of mirrorless, what you have seen in the website is "search trend" not buying trend. That seems to be agreeing with my point #1. mirrorless did generate a lot of interest.  You are welcome to correct me if I am wrong. My question about if it is selling well is really based on my own observation on a few cruise ships and on land where the ships docked ( Europe, Asia and Canada) in this year. I have seen a lot of DSLR and "P & S", but only a few mirror less. I have also seen the same trend in U.S.  What is your observation in Germany??? By the way Besides my DSLR I do have a Ixus (SD870 in US). The factory case is a little bit too big for my taste. Just by pure luck, I have found a soft leather case with a belt loop  that fits it like a glove and has a minimal outside pocket for the spare battery. So the SD870 with the leather case are either in my pant pocket or on my belt

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 08, 2010, 12:01:33 PM »



Quote


With what authority do you make that claim?




With what authority do you make that claim?

Let me ask you something, why do you make posts like this?

You back up none of your assertions with facts nor URLs pointing to facts.

Who gave you the authority to write such a mean post????

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 08, 2010, 11:39:57 AM »


Ummmm, I don't think that anyone else but you is thinking that Sony's DSLR with the APS-C sensor is the type of mirror-less camera that this thread is about.

Can you name an APS-C mirrorless  that can challenge  ALL my 6 points???  My #1 point is also a questioon, based on what I have seen on the cruise ships in the last few months. I see a lot of DSLR but only  ONE Sony mirroless.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 08, 2010, 01:43:15 AM »
Dilbert, If you think my all 6 points are all wrong, you are welcome to prove that I am wrong.  You do not  say some one is wrong until you can prove him wrong. That is just simple good citizenship. if you do not have it I feel sorry for you.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 08, 2010, 01:28:45 AM »
Dilbert,
I do not need to quote URL on every statement  that I have made. Did you look at  the Sony APS-C mirrorless. a blind man can see how big the lens is. Will you put it in you coat pocket?? Read the Image Resources test. You will find out the focusing speed is about 0.5 second. Look at the weight with the lens and compare it with the XSi with  the kit lens. Compare the price of the two while you are at it.  as for camera bag. Will you dangle a camera at you chest all the time without any protection???  i do not need any authority, just common sense.

If you want to pick on me on any statement, go ahead, make my day. I know you got nothing better to do. So it will just be my entertainment.  So go ahead and be a court jester and entertain me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Mirrorless Far Off?
« on: November 07, 2010, 09:39:29 PM »
I think the whole mirrorless camera thing caught Canon sleeping,
I don't think making a whole new line of lenses would stop canon,
Not making a return on investment would.
Canon is already 2 generations behind, waiting till 2012 will put them at least 1 more behind. I sure hope they release one next year.

May be Canon is smart to stay away from mirrorless for a while for the following reason.
1. There are 6 or 7 APS-C mirrorless camera out there that generates a lot of attention. But are they really selling well? Are they making money, after the the R & D cost???
2. None of them is really coat pocketable with the lens.
3. Focusing speed is terrible, even compare to the entry  DSLR.
4. Weight saving is also minimal, compared to entry level DSLR.
5. Cost is comparable to entry level DSLR.
6. You will need a camera bag for either Mirrorless or DSLR.
7. May be Canon is waiting for a technology breakthrough or trying to improve the existing technology.

I actually will like to have a mirrorless camera with the following:
1. APS-C sensor with even explosure all the way to the corner. Canon should get  the  offset micro mirror technology from Leica plus the software adjustment.
2. Focusing time equals to the existing DSLR. If it cannot be done, then Canon should have lenses that have  fine manual focusing with depth of field scale like the lenses in the old film days. With these, we can use the zone focusing technique and have NO focusing delay.
3. Some prime pancake lens to make the camera really coat pocketable.
4. The camera body design should be taken a page from the Fuji mirrorless (start from ground up, make it small and still comfortable in the hand, and use classic range finder camera as a model. Also canon should also get the hybrid view finder from Fuji).
If such a camera exist, I will pay $2000 for it. It sure beats the $7000 price tag of the Leica M9.

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