Amazon is still having 7D at $1457 and 60D at $888
Here is a Canon white paper about manufacturing sensors.
I've always wondered how large part of the cost of the camera that is the sensor. Does anyone know? It seems to me that if you buy a 5D a much larger part of the money goes to finance the sensor than if you buy a 7D.
The white paper says that a full-frame sensor can be 20 times more expensive than APS-C. The 5D is about $2500 and the 7D $1500. Is the 5D sensor as much as $1000, or even more?
At the risk of violating my own rule about not discussing pixel size I wonder which is more likely to occur: cost reductions in the manufacture of sensors so as to allow larger sensors at less cost or improvements in imaging technology to allow improved image quality from smaller sensors.
Last night I was looking at the noise performance (only) of 40D, 7D and 60D with DXOmark. At ISO1600 and 3200, 40D is the best performer by a slight margin. This says a lot about the noise and pixel size.
I would like to add that personal attack should be banned.QuoteI'm going to vote agree on one condition/criteria.. if there is a thread started *specifically* to discuss the merits or lack thereof of MP counts, then said thread is immune from said action.
Works for me.
That said, the reason I've held off on buying a secondary body is because I haven't been impressed with Canon's APS-C sensors. This new sensor in the T3/600D has a lot of potential because its photosites will be bigger, and it'll have the much more modern processing engine. Somehow I doubt Canon would allow the cheaper camera body to outperform the more expensive ones though, so I'm not getting my hopes up.I am totally agree with you and the rest of the discussion on your post. Just hope Canon is smart enough to turn the T3 into a High ISO performer and let the people that want 18MP to have the 7D, 60D or the T3i. I am going to throw another coal into the fire. Last night I was looking at the noise performance (only) of 40D, 7D and 60D with DXOmark. At ISO1600 and 3200, 40D is the best performer by a slight margin. This says a lot about the noise and pixel size.
I have the same problem with my 20D after 40K activation. Now it is sitting at the bottom of my " junk pile".Hi CR,
The diagnosis is confirmed by the button pressing half way to focus, focusing successfully and when the button is completely depressed the shutter does not go off.
heh, I did not know this was a common issue. I have a 40d and this issue occurred with me when I was at angkor in cambodia. I t hought it was actually exposure related because I didnt have any issues taking photos of bright scenes, it was in dark scenes that the trigger would not fire.
That said, I havent had the issue since (or maybe so intermittently that i dont even recall it happening) and I didnt do anything to 'resolve' it.
Ok so now I got the lenses down, only now to decided on the body. I like them both, I prefer the 7D a little more, probably the one I am going to get after the rebates roll in. I heard great things about it's AF, especially in low light. Maybe I should download the manual and get a head start, so when it comes I know what to do. Just a question, I never tried this with my A700 (12mp, I could lower it but no point at 6mp), but if I was to lower the MP's (if possible on the 7D, in the menu), to lets say 12mp from 18mp, I should get better hi ISO performance correct?I got a feeling that you are looking for a "Transitional camera" that you will be moving into FF in December. I have a suggestion that is a little bit crazy and It may work for you. Spend $450 for a used 40D and $700 for a 17-40mm F4 L lens. This is an excellent lens for APS-C sensor (I am speaking from my own experience). It should take care of most of you need (27mm to 66mm equilvalent)except when you need the telephoto usage. The lens is a true FFlens. So you will have an utawide to normal zoom lens for your FF. As for the 40D, at ISO 1600 its noise level is more that acceptable. At ISO 3200, you will see some noise.You can sell your 40D later and get most of your money back.
that's basically the way firmware works already. minor updates are released via firmware patches to your existing cameras. you are expected to pay for major revisions (aka purchasing a new camera).Canon should sell the "major firmware upgrade" and let you keep the camera. Just like a lot of people upgrade their PC operating system from "Vista" to "Widows 7" without buying a new computer.
I just think that Canon and the rest should follow a computer software sort of model - where minor revisions, even the addition of some features are considered minor, are free while you are expected to pay for major revisions.
So the T3 (Canon's lowest end DSLR) gets a brand new sensor (the MP count is different than the 450D as is the ISO performance), so I started doing some math..
Long story and boring math aside, I'm left with the distinct impression this is a cut down 5D-Mk III sensor. I'm curious to see if anyone else has given this any thought. I just don't see *any* reason for Canon to build a new APS-C sensel w/ gapless microlenses for just one camera (and their cheapest at that).
...everyone except Leica seems to be pointing their brands at the casual user.
and also Fujifilm.