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Site Information / Re: banning people for nothing at canon rumors
« on: June 16, 2013, 02:30:08 AM »
maybe he called someone a moron once(is that really that wrong?)
Of course it is "that wrong" ::) ... one can disagree with everyone and everything in CR but one has to learn to be civil ... "Be Civil" is one of the rules of this forum ... read point 4 here http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=1442.0 ... we do not come to CR to be insulted by other members calling us names ... so of course it is wrong to call someone a moron ::)
Has anyone given any evidence to why he was banned besides just saying he was a "jerk" or he disagreed with people?
As it was clearly mentioned before, by the Admin, that if the banned person contacts the CR admin, the issue can be sorted out. But if the person who got banned has no interest in sorting out the issue, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to provide "evidence" to someone else.
but all too often this forum is just a bunch of people agreeing with each other, slapping each others backs, and generally just cheering on Canon...
Nothing wrong with that ... after all it is Canon Rumors not Nikon/Sony rumors ... so people will cheer for Canon ... fyi, CR has plenty of threads/posts where people disagree all the time, maybe you just don't notice it ... hint, the subject thread is one of the many ;)
When someone has a little edgier opinion, or might have a little less cordiality, they are often treated like some kind of criminal.
Nobody is treated like a criminal because they have "a little edgier opinion". But if someone feels victimized because they are supposedly "treated like some kind of criminal" they have the option of reporting to the admin/mods and they also have the option of not being here ::)
1st: i'm not saying calling someone a moron is right or OK, i'm just asking if calling someone a moron is grounds for being banned from the site? I don't think the forum should be filled with people insulting each other, but if someone throws out the word moron in an argument once I don't think that they should be forever banned(or even temporarily banned, maybe given a warning?) There is also a difference between saying "you are a moron" and saying "that statement is moronic"
2nd: while there is nothing wrong with people being huge cheerleaders of Canon here, there is also nothing wrong with people not being huge cheerleaders of Canon. This forum is called "canonrumors" not "canoncheerleaders"
If all I wanted was to read about how good Canon things are, i could just read the press releases. I come to sites like this to get a balanced opinion from all sides. Going back to my first point, often times people (especially some of this sites biggest users) are all too excited to belittle and insult people's intelligence for disagreeing with the consensus or criticizing things(as was stated much earlier in this thread.)
3rd: This squirrel thing is cute, but I think this thread is rather serious, and I haven't really seen many answers still as to why this person was banned. It seems like people just want to waste people's time rather than give constructive information or debate.

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Site Information / Re: banning people for nothing at canon rumors
« on: June 16, 2013, 01:00:44 AM »
Now, that squirrel is the best post on this thread  :D

Totally agree, and for some strange reason they look smarter than the ones we have, probably speak "American" though.

This, from someone who's loo flushes backwards. Sheesh.  ;)
this is a myth... i'm surprised you fell for this neuro.


i didn't finish reading the 7 pages of the thread, but I don't see why Canon F1 got banned.... maybe he called someone a moron once(is that really that wrong?)
maybe he disagreed with a mod(who cares?)

Has anyone given any evidence to why he was banned besides just saying he was a "jerk" or he disagreed with people? He may not have been the nicest guy in the internet, but all too often this forum is just a bunch of people agreeing with each other, slapping each others backs, and generally just cheering on Canon...
When someone has a little edgier opinion, or might have a little less cordiality, they are often treated like some kind of criminal.
Unless some good evidence is put forward(or i missed something) i dont see why F1 was banned....
I don't think disagreeing with people or upsetting some random members every so often is much of a justification.

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EOS-M / Re: EF-M 11-22 / 4-5.6 IS STM - officially announced
« on: June 06, 2013, 11:05:35 AM »
i like this. if the image quality is really on par with the 10-22 ef-s than this is a real winner at 400 bucks and a lot smaller. with the 2.3 faster AF potentially coming, the M series is starting to sound a lot more tempting. I just wish Canon would just make a full frame eos-M.

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the white tape on the camera and stamps are just ridiculous. A thief will not care if you have a 20D or 1DX... like others have said, they're probably looking to get about 50 dollars for it anyways, so what's the difference?
If anything the white tape is going to attract a lottttt more attention. I wouldn't stop staring at you if I saw you on the street, i'd be thinking to myself, "what does this guy have going on under that tape? what's in the rest of his bag?"
This solution doesn't make your camera look old and cheap, it makes it look like some kind of prototype test copy(besides kai.)
I think this thread has gone from semi useful, to downright ridiculous.
just get insurance, use common sense, act like you belong, and know when to give up if confronted(as said before.) I'd say the taping is just going to give you unwanted attention.

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Lenses / Re: Downgrading my equipment - looking for advice
« on: May 21, 2013, 10:54:51 PM »
sorry to hear about your fall, i hope you feel better soon. best of luck.
yeah, i'm a little confused too. if you are talking about "reducing and downsizing" i don't really see how any 1 series body could be considered.
are you trying to reduce on price, size, complexity, etc.?
if i was trying to reduce or downgrade on price i'd probably just buy a mirrorless aps-c body. If so i'd look at the fuji(with the f2.8-4 kit lens), nex, or if you want Canon, the EOS-M. If you want something good enough and simple, you might look at one of the new fixed lens aps-c like the Ricoh GR or the Nikon Coolpix A.
If you just want one great and simple option why not the RX1 from Sony?
Otherwise i'd just keep the 5DIII and the 24-105, or even switch to a 24-70 f4(cant believe I just said that!)
the 5DIII is an awesome camera and you've had amazing lenses, I think you'll be disappointed if you try to go for the cheap zooms.
I'd say stick with what you have, buy primes, or switch to a much smaller system(think nex, eos-m, or even RX1.)

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Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L IS II
« on: May 16, 2013, 02:45:15 AM »
To make it up to you, here's a photo of a duck I took:
this made my day! you didn't have to make anything up to me(i really liked your review,) but i still appreciate your free duck picture!

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Canon General / Re: Announcement: Canon EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« on: May 14, 2013, 10:40:24 AM »
wow... just got home from dinner(live in China.) I cant believe this is actually announced.
seems to be basically what we expected. It defiinitely seems awesome, but I'm never going to buy one.

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incredible if this is true.
what are we going to talk about now?

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announcement?
this thing was on a tour of photo shows around the world. I got an email hyping it being on display at either the HK or Shanghai camera show at least six months ago. I know they also had it on display at other camera shows in different countries as well.
At this point, the announcement means little besides just confirming weight, some random specs and price.
I'm sure someday it will be in the hands of actual consumers, but at this point it's basically a joke/Yeti.

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Animal Kingdom / Re: Wrong Photography Ethics?
« on: May 10, 2013, 05:11:50 AM »
In my humble opinion (which is often wrong - not the humble part), unless you are taking photos to go into a newspaper or photos that are intended to prove a point (i.e. polar bears swimming and drowning in iceless water etc. - no need to debate the example I chose) there is no such thing as ethics.

Any line that anyone choses to stand on is simply aesthetics and preference.  There is no absolute.  Photography and art are supposed to be interpretations of reality.  Now, if you tell me your photo is pure reality and it isn’t that’d be cheating.  If you just ask me if I like it, the fact that it is a composite is not relevant.
I think this is a very logical argument. I don't particularly "like" the idea of images being photoshopped and changed beyond just lightroom style editing, but that doesn't mean that it isn't happening constantly everywhere around us. In this day and age, I think we should all just expect editing and it is difficult to draw the line on what is acceptable and what isn't. Unless this is being used for some reason and besides just to entertain then I really don't see an issue with it at all

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Lenses / Re: I have just lost confidence with Canon Rumors & B&H
« on: April 17, 2013, 07:28:11 AM »
I get what you're saying OP.
I also think you're overreacting quite a bit.
If you have lost your confidence in this site, especially about something that isn't even a rumor, then that is your problem. This site is here to make a profit(at least I was under the impression that it was,) and if you cant handle the fact that sometimes they link you to "good deals" that aren't always the "best deals" then you probably shouldn't come around here anymore.
I for one, would like to thank the CR team for having such an awesome website and always keeping us up to date on Canon news. I think the CR team is great and I love all the work they do to give us interesting subjects to talk about.
I understand that sometimes they post things because of business decisions, and I'm ok with it. if you aren't ok with it, then keep making whining posts, or leave.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D800 Value Dropping?
« on: April 13, 2013, 10:21:22 AM »
There is a almost new D800 on our local craigslist (not a scam) for $2100.  I checked ebay and noted that there were a lot of sales in the $2200 range, some even included a cheap lens.
 
Why are people dumping them?  I was tempted to get it as a 2nd body to my 5D MK III.  I have several Nikon lenses.  Finally, I decided that I'd pass it up, if others don't want them, I won't be able to resell it a year from now without losing money.
I did buy one new last May for $3K, and later sold it for $3200 when they were hot items.   There are some better lenses now available or on the horizon, so the lens situation is not so bleak as it was.

Well at least they're holding their value better than the 5D Mark III!

Debut'd at $3499 and has been on sale new for as little as $2799. Don't know about 2nd hand prices but they'd have to be less.

The new price of a D800 has dropped from $3000 to $2800.

5D3 with $700 (20%) drop vs D800 with $200 (7%) drop.

Easy to see which has held its price better.

I can see a few D800s for sale at or below $2200 2nd hand, but it has had a good workout at 17,000 snaps!

Maybe you should ask the sellers why they are selling rather than create a troll topic here?
All reputable stores are selling the 5D MK III for $3299 ... the $2799 you are quoting are "flash" sales i.e. just a couple of hundred units to promote a particular store (like Big Value Inc etc) for a very brief period.
So comparing "flash" sales of 5D MK III with the normal selling price of D800 is unfair. If you are going to compare at least be fair in also comparing the "flash" sales of D800 ... the last flash sale I saw of D800 was $2349.
IMHO both cameras are holding their price drops quite similarly.
Just to clear things up a little? where and when have you seen a D800 at $2349? The only time i've seen that price is a one time deal on Refurbished D800's.  I don't think i've ever seen a D800 new for less than $2800, while i've seen the 5DIII at under $3000 many times.
From my experience, I think it's pretty clear that Canon plays the high MSRP/Future discounts game much more aggressively than Nikon does.... at least in the past few years.

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Canon product development announcements are getting really old. Cant they just announce something?

Announcing firmware updates months in advance....
remember when the 200-400 was spotted on the first 5DIII in Africa? Where is it?

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« on: March 29, 2013, 05:17:10 AM »
And at those prices i'd probably recommend the D7100 unless Canon has some sensor magic up their sleeves.

... to *new* users, but those will probably go for a sub-€1000 camera (xxxd/xxd) while the existing users will "upgrade" ...

I don't see any way this camera could cost more than $1600 given the D7100's specs.

.. but given the market saturaration with lenses/flashes/other single-brand equipment Canon knows existing users seldom switch brands - you loose money selling gear and you have to get used to a new usability.

So how much would you pay to be able to stick to your old system? €500? €1000? That's what Canon can add on top of the camera price as seen on the 5d3 - and then there's the early adopter's fee of €200-€500. A "reasonable" price will only be achieved after about 2 years after rtm.
with the price of the updated Canon glass and the premium prices of new bodies compared to their competition, I wouldn't pay anything "stick to my old system."
In fact, I was pretty perturbed at getting screwed on both sides of the equation, both lenses and bodies. So perturbed that I switched to a D700, which is just insanely awesome at $1500 bucks, as well as the 24-70G, which is also unbelievably nice, and which i bought for 700 bucks less than the new Canon version.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Test Camera [CR1]
« on: March 28, 2013, 11:58:25 PM »
Interresting, in Japenese forums he specs are handeld a little bit better. Price over the 5D3

Price over 5D3, Whaaaaaahaaaahahahahahaa.  ;D
for the price to be around the 5DIII, i'd expect sensor performance similar to that of the 1DX, 5DIIIish AF, similar or better weather sealing to the 7D, maybe one card slot to differentiate/cripple it a bit, and 8FPS.
With the specs listed in this rumor i'd say the price all depends on the sensor. If it has greatly improved sensor performance then Canon might ask $1999(and that would be too much) or if it has the current APS-C sensor tech i'd say they'd price it at $1500(and that would be too much.)
right now, Nikon has the D5200 and D7100 which outside of the FPS are both comparable to this camera and both are priced around $1000ish.
These specs are closer to the Nikon 7100, a $1200 camera body. I would suggest that these specs are probably for the 70D, not the 7DMK2. They will never be able to charge a premium for a 7DMK2 with these specs. Nikon has upped the expectations of what APS bodies should be and Canon will have to respond. If Canon stays with these specs Nikon will release a better APS-C camera and Canon will once more be well behind the curve.
This is what I was thinking. If this camera is released with these specs and the current sensor performance I don't see any way this camera could cost more than $1600 given the D7100's specs. And at those prices i'd probably recommend the D7100 unless Canon has some sensor magic up their sleeves.

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