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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Rumor: Nikon Digital FM2 - Retro look
« on: October 21, 2013, 02:14:00 AM »
this camera sounds truly amazing. i'm very excited about this. i'm a little worried that it weighs 750g!!! I really hope that the price is reasonable(below 3k, hopefully around 2k.)
This is an extremely exciting camera and i'm definitely going to consider canceling my Sony preorder for the a7 and lens. in fact, i'm almost definitely going to cancel my Sony if this thing is close to what is described and under 3000 bucks.
Since i've been looking at the Sony i've been a little worried about the lack of native lenses, lack of AF with adaptors, the large and expensive LE A4 adaptor for A mount lenses, and now the reviews saying RF lenses perform poorly on the a7.
I love the 16mp sensor idea!!!! I really hope it has something special to make MF easier(split prism,etc), and I really hope the price is not like 4k!!!
If Nikon can deliver this camera for a great price it is going to be huge!

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Canon's sensor tech is fine, but there is certainly not a consensus that it's the best(at least outside of this forum.)
I have been very interested in the M9 for a long time, but for a plethora of reasons it was a no go for me.
The sensor tech of Sony has been much hyped since the D800/D600 and I'm extremely pleased to have an extremely modern 24mp sensor, with focus peaking, in a size smaller than any other FF camera on the market.
While this is not going to replace a DSLR for professional use in many cases, I think it will be a huge hit among enthusiasts(and pros) who want a fun camera to travel with or carry around everyday.
As others have noted earlier, you can just buy this camera and use it with your Canon EF lenses, along with other lenses you might have around too(or any other lens you'd want to buy.)
For anyone criticizing this camera, remember this, it features the most modern sensor available at the lowest price available for a FF, all in the smallest size of any FF camera on the market(besides RX1.)
If you don't like it, you certainly don't need to buy it, but I find this camera to be MUCH more exciting than any other camera i've seen in a long, long while.

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I just pre ordered the a7 and 28- 70 kit lens from Sony.com here in China.
The a7 and the 28-70 Kit lens are $1860 here in China, which is actually 130 dollars less than in America.
I'm very excited to get some old Takumars or 1.2 manual focus vintage glass and have some fun.
I doubt I will ever buy another DSLR again.

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just pre ordered the a7 and the crappy kit lens. I'll probably get some cheap vintage MF fast glass to play with it until I figure out the exact lenses I want.
I'm very excited about this bad boy!

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PowerShot / Re: Limited Edition PowerShot Cameras Coming
« on: October 15, 2013, 11:50:34 AM »
this is terrible. CR has turned in to LeicaRumors.

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Dylan, I knew you'd be excited about this thing!
I have been waiting for this camera for years!!!(probably since the M9 was first announced.)
Unless something crazy happens to dissuade me, i'm almost definitely going to preorder whichever one has better AF. I'm thinking the A7 is better for me as the PDAF should(my thinking, am i right?) be better than the A7r. I'm also more inclined to 24mp instead of 36, and with the A9 probably coming next year, i'm happy to buy the cheaper one now, and then get the true top of the line in a year or so.
I'm thinking of buying the Sony Zeiss 24mm F2 lens. I'm having a hard time figuring out which lenses will have AF functionality.
Dylan and Gino, and others buying this camera, what lenses will you use? will you buy any of the new lenses to use with it?
I'm in China, but i'm in the process of selling my D700, and 24-70. I love love love this camera and lens, but it is just wayyyy to heavy! i'm very excited to have an EOS-M and the Sony A7!!!!
This is also a great return to my Minolta roots. i started out in my high school photography class using an old Minolta, and I am very excited to go back to something small and simple instead of these crazy monster DSLR's that everyone is so in to nowadays. I'm sick of having a heavy backpack and sore shoulders!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: I don't understand
« on: October 04, 2013, 01:12:08 PM »
That's a simplistic statement.

This whole thread is a simplistic topic.  A rumor that Sony will have a 36 MP FF sensor.  There are rumors that Canon will have a 40+ MP FF sensor.  Let's talk when something is announced, until then it's just wasted electrons.
While I wholeheartedly get your point, Neuro. The FF Sony camera rumored here is most likely going to be announced in about 10 days. I trust Andrea over at sonyalpharumors and I'm pretty sure there is at the very least going to be one FF Sony mirrorless, if not two by the end of the year. while it is all rumors at this point, Canon has certainly been dragging their feet on releasing new technology and new features people are looking for while pricing new products at a premium level. I would say this includes things like the 24-70 w/ no IS, 6D w/ only 11AF points. similar sensors again and again and a 5DIII at 500 dollars more than the D800.
While it is all rumors at this point, there is a very good chance that Sony will have a sub 2000 dollar Leica sized FF interchangeable lens camera on the shelf in a couple months. While I am super excited about this, I am a little disappointed it has taken this long as I have been waiting for something like this since the M9 was first released. I was hoping for a FF ILC in a smaller than DSLR size for years, and was first thinking it would be Fuji after the Xpro and the same when Nikon and Canon both announced their mirrorless offerings(Nikon 1 and EOS M.) While I'm sure everyone will have many logical reasons why Canon is correct(they're a billion dollar company and doing great business afterall,) I think we would all like faster advancements in technology and design. So yes, I would say Bravo to Sony for making* something small, FF and with interchangeable lenses, especially at a $2000(or less if the rumors are right) price! and yes, I wish Canon, and all the other companies, would quit dragging their heels and release some innovative products!

* please forget the fact that the Sony camera is not even announced yet. If tempted to think of a critical reply, please think of the RX1 first.

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Lenses / Re: Lens suggestions for T3i please!
« on: September 28, 2013, 09:58:29 PM »
24mm is absolutely not wide enough on a crop body. I was in your position years ago and bought a 24-105 and the 10-22 to go with my t2i.
It was a huge mistake(i have since learned that 24mm is one of my favorite focal lengths,) and I ended up switching back and forth between my 2 lenses constantly... it was very annoying and actually convinced me to move to Full frame much earlier than I otherwise would have.
I might consider even looking at an old 5D mark I camera body if you like FF. This camera takes amazing portraits. the iso and AF are not up to the 5DIII standards, but I believe for portraits or in good light it is 97% as good most of the time, and I think you can buy one on Craigslist for 700 bucks.
You could buy the 24-105 used and the 5D for 1500 dollars(possibly more or less.) I think this is much, much better than the 10-22 and 24-70(or 105) on the APS-C body.
or, if you want simple, just get the 17-55 2.8 or the 15-85 if you don't need the 2.8. This lens is really good and is the right lens for your situation. That is the lens that is supposed to be used as a step up from the kit lens on crop bodies. I wish I had just bought that instead of the 24-105 on my t2i.
I don't believe the 24-XXX zooms work well on APS-C bodies at all and I hated using mine on my old T2i.
I also think either of the wide angles mentioned earlier are fine too, the 17-40 F4 or 16-35 f2.8, but probably not as useful on the smaller sensor as the 17-55 2.8.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: NEW TOY :)
« on: September 28, 2013, 05:43:49 AM »
It seems that his wife also reads Canonrumors. :o Congratulations, and enjoy your gift 8).
just what I was thinking! congrats on your new toy and anniversary!
that's a great gift! I used this as a learning opportunity to teach my wife about good gifts!
also, I really like your gear setup, some people on here have everything from Canon's lineup, but you only have the really good things(IMO) from all the different manufacturers. Nice choices!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sony FF NEX - competition is good. Canon?
« on: September 26, 2013, 08:54:47 PM »
Sony has been one of my favorite electronics companies since I was a kid in the 80's because of their spirit of innovation and their willingness to make new exciting products. Sony was as cool or even cooler in the 80's than Apple is today.
I have owned a couple of Sony Cybershot cameras as P&S and was always pretty happy with their IQ and overall quality(this is before I bought my first DSLR, a Canon.)
I'm thrilled with the new FF rumors. I was very curious about the RX1, but settled for the EOS-M with 22mm for 10% of the cost, a choice I've been very happy with.
However, one of my main reasons for doing this was that I wanted to save money for the hopefully awesome FF mirrorless camera that is soon to be announced. I'm thinking of selling all my DSLR gear now and buying this camera if they can put the pieces together in to a solid overall camera with a few nice lens choices.
I am very tired of big, heavy DSLR's, and I am thrilled at the idea of downsizing to an EOS M and hopefully a similar size FF system!!!

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EOS-M / Re: My almost complete Collection of EOS M Equipment
« on: September 24, 2013, 10:20:25 PM »
looks very nice. i'm really happy with my little eos-m kit(especially for the money.) the IQ is at least as good as any non FF DSLR i've used.

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Canon General / Re: Patent: EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS
« on: September 24, 2013, 09:01:34 PM »

They easily could have made the 24-70 2.8 II an IS lens to begin with, which we all wanted and expected,

not all

many wanted and expected something with prime-like performance on a FF at 24mm and amazing f/2.8 center across the range in a reasonably small (smaller and lighter than before) package. And we got that.
I would have been fine with v2 had the price not seemingly doubled at release(I understand sales, vs release prices and MSRP, but that is what essentially happened in the short term(1 year at least.) With the price hike from v1 to v2 they should have made it IS, put the opening price at $2499, and if they had wanted to released the current v2 at $2249, or less.
I just don't like the idea of another new lens release with an insane price, especially when the concept of having IS in the this lens had been talked about for a while.
I'm all for paying top dollar for something if it gives me exactly what I want, but otherwise, i'd rather just hold out for the best, considering the price of v2 wasn't low either.
It's like the new iPhone here in China(where I live). They made the 5c for $730 bucks, and the 5s for $860. If i'm going to drop 700 dollars on a new phone, I don't want to wish I had the metal body, or better processor, etc(or IS), i'd rather just pay $100 dollars more and have the best. Likewise, if i'm going to pay $2300 for a lens, I'd like to be fairly sure there isn't an upgraded version coming the next year.

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Canon General / Re: Patent: EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS
« on: September 21, 2013, 11:51:41 PM »
i'm much more excited about the Sigma F2.
I'm extremely tired of companies offering very small incremental changes over longggg periods of time. I'm not holding my breath for Canon to release what I want, I'm just moving on.
They easily could have made the 24-70 2.8 II an IS lens to begin with, which we all wanted and expected, especially for the price.  Had they made one, I probably would've bought a 5DIII and that lens(Instead of switching to Nikon who's 24-70 is amazing.)
At this point in time, I'm much more excited about 2.8 zooms and cheap bodies for the EOS M and a FF mirrorless.
I would not pay 2500 dollars for another DSLR lens as I'm very tired of the weight, and I'm not a pro. I'll probably just hold out and hope Sony can make a 24-50mm 2.8 in a size smaller than current 24-70 2.8's for the upcoming full frame mirrorless they're announcing.

Of course you realize if Sigma really does come out with a FF 24-70 f2.0 it is going to be a monster to carry around, right?  I expect it will be at least as big as the 70-200 2.8 II.
I didn't say i'd buy the Sigma, I just said i'm much more excited about it than the next 3000 dollar Canon lens.
If Sigma does make a 24-70 F2, I seriously doubt it will be as big as the 70-200 2.8, that is just too big and not practical. I do not think that would be very succesful at all. I don't think that the rules of lens optics and size are entirely set in stone yet.

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Canon General / Re: Patent: EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS
« on: September 21, 2013, 12:53:02 PM »
The one guy who says he switched to Nikon for their 24-70....uh....ok...? (*scratches head*)
I didn't switch to Nikon for their 24-70 specifically, if I had to name one thing it would be the AF of the D700 vs the AF of the 5DII(I did this over a year ago when the 5DIII was still $3500 and new 5DII's were around $2K.
I had an old 5DC with a 24-105, but I missed focus on half my shots and just constantly was disappointed when conditions were not perfect. I also like the pop up flash on the D700, it saves me from having to lug around a separate flash 90% of the time.
I traded my 5DC and lens for the 24-70 2.8 Nikon pretty much, then paid 1400 more for a used but basically mint D700. I think I made a huge upgrade from the 5DC and 24-105 without having to pay 5000 dollars. I hardly ever hear anyone say anything bad about the Nikon 24-70, and I've personally never used a better lens. The Canon might be sharper, but at this point, I wouldn't trade my Nikon 24-70 for anything less than a FF mirrorless system that is much smaller and lighter.
I travel a lot and am sick of DSLR's. I'm now looking to only use my EOS-M and hopefully something a little(or lot) better but with a similar size in the future.

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Canon General / Re: Patent: EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS
« on: September 20, 2013, 11:33:20 PM »
i'm much more excited about the Sigma F2.
I'm extremely tired of companies offering very small incremental changes over longggg periods of time. I'm not holding my breath for Canon to release what I want, I'm just moving on.
They easily could have made the 24-70 2.8 II an IS lens to begin with, which we all wanted and expected, especially for the price.  Had they made one, I probably would've bought a 5DIII and that lens(Instead of switching to Nikon who's 24-70 is amazing.)
At this point in time, I'm much more excited about 2.8 zooms and cheap bodies for the EOS M and a FF mirrorless.
I would not pay 2500 dollars for another DSLR lens as I'm very tired of the weight, and I'm not a pro. I'll probably just hold out and hope Sony can make a 24-50mm 2.8 in a size smaller than current 24-70 2.8's for the upcoming full frame mirrorless they're announcing.


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