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EOS Bodies / Re: Smartphones Already Won -- Laforet
« on: March 03, 2015, 05:55:52 PM »
I would like to see how sales of the 1D, 5D, 7D, 6D,and xxD compared to those of the Rebels.

For all we know sales of single and double digit bodies stayed stable and only the Rebels suffered.

I think only specialised point and shoots will end up surviving. Like say those with superzooms, water proofing and large sensors.

Canon bought that CCTV company while Nikon bought a a retinal imaging firm.

Good to see these companies diversifying in a market they know is shrinking.

Still cameras will be the domain of pros and enthusiasts who wants to go beyond smartphone photography.

Lenses / Re: Next L Lens From Canon Will be a Prime [CR2]
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:33:51 PM »
The 50 f1.2 was not a replacement for the 50 f1.0, they were very different. Canon has a long history of both the 50/55 f1.2 and the 50 f0.95.

Spiritual successor then. ;)

It would be nice to see a 50/1.2 with better optics. But I doubt it'll happen too soon as it sells too well. ;)

Lenses / Re: Next L Lens From Canon Will be a Prime [CR2]
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:27:26 PM »
I like the idea of a 135mm F/1.8L IS. Then I'd have no want for a 70-200II. Even a 50mm 1.4 update with Ring USM will cause money to part from my wallet and no F/2 lens will do for me. A f/2 50mm will only confirm a purchase for the Sigma A 50mm.
Why not make it faster to say... 135/1.4  with IS? :D

Lenses / Re: Next L Lens From Canon Will be a Prime [CR2]
« on: March 03, 2015, 04:17:14 PM »
I wonder when these non-L lenses will be updated? Just like earlier lenses I expect new optical formulas and IS added or STM versions.

Arranged by popularity from BH Photo.

EF 50mm f/1.8 II
EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III
EF 85mm f/1.8 USM
EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM
EF 75-300mm f/4-5.6 III USM
EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
EF 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro
EF 28 f/1.8 USM
MP-E 65mm f/2.8 1-5x Macro Photo
EF 100mm f/2 USM
EF 20mm f/2.8 USM
TS-E 45mm f/2.8
TS-E 90mm f/2.8
EF 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DO IS USM

EF 135mm f/2.8 with Softfocus  is not listed on BH Photo.

I wonder when the TS-E will be updated to Ls seeming Nikon came out with their counterparts a few years ago.

I know Nikon updated some of these focal lengths. Just arent sure which ones.

Lenses / Re: Next L Lens From Canon Will be a Prime [CR2]
« on: March 03, 2015, 03:55:18 PM »
Film-era L lenses. Year cut off is 2004

1993 EF 400mm f/5.6L USM
1996 EF 180mm f/3.5L Macro USM
1996 EF 135mm f/2L USM
1996 EF 200mm f/2.8L II USM
1997 EF 300mm f/4L IS USM
1998 EF 35mm f/1.4L USM

1995 EF 70-200mm f/2.8L USM
1999 EF 70-200mm f/4L USM
2004 EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6L IS USM

We are entering an era where in old lenses will show their design flaws on high pixel density cameras like the 5DS & 5DS R

I am keen on the 135 replacement and largely given up the 35 for the 40 pancake.

Lenses / Re: Next L Lens From Canon Will be a Prime [CR2]
« on: March 03, 2015, 03:19:22 PM »
I wonder if Canon sells enough 800s and 200s to justify updating them earlier than say 2020?

EOS Bodies / Re: The State of the Camera Industry in 2014
« on: March 02, 2015, 03:55:24 AM »
^^ you should also overlay world population as well.

I'd love to see how Asia breaks down into per country with HK, TW from CN as separate camera markets.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: New camera body or new lens?
« on: March 01, 2015, 12:52:25 PM »
Lens before bodies, all the time.

EOS Bodies / Re: The State of the Camera Industry in 2014
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:53:09 PM »
Wonder what the camera market will be like by 2020?

Canon General / Re: RIP Leonard Nimoy
« on: February 27, 2015, 06:51:42 PM »

Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« on: February 27, 2015, 11:10:50 AM »
Lovely images guys!

EOS Bodies / Re: Possible Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Spec Talk [CR2]
« on: February 27, 2015, 07:21:48 AM »
A FF camera with 61 focus points and 10FPS...why would anyone buy the 5DS other than to have crazy high megapixels?

Um, its pixel count IS its sales pitch.
Some people think it'll make their images get the medium format look.

EOS Bodies / Re: Smartphones Already Won -- Laforet
« on: February 27, 2015, 12:30:36 AM »
The reason why you have to push numbers is because people tend to push anecdotal evidence.

We all know how global those things are. ;)

But thank you for posting that link.

Time was I was laughed up about image quality of smartphones.

I was able to get a passing grade in a photo contest with a smartphone photo submission.

It could have gotten a higher score if it was if the subject was a wee bit more striking.

People are posting graphs and arguing statistics here, as usual, instead of looking at photos.

Topically, this was just posted today:

Enjoy! I know I did. :-)

FWIW, I use all my cameras as often as I have them available -- phones, compacts, MILCs, DSLRs -- hell, I even used my iPad the other morning for a quick shot! (Felt ridiculous, as it should, but I needed it RIGHT THEN!)

EOS Bodies / Re: Smartphones Already Won -- Laforet
« on: February 26, 2015, 12:55:32 PM »
The question is can pros and serious enthusiasts provide sufficient market for the level of development we have come to expect?  It used to be the pro bodies were updated on a ten year cycle and lenses even longer.  We are likely headed in that direction again.
I guess that explains why the 7D Mark II took 5 years before it got updated. Most folks thought it'll follow a 3 year cycle.

EOS Bodies / Re: Smartphones Already Won -- Laforet
« on: February 26, 2015, 04:00:06 AM »
YUP. Its an astounding drop to 1/3 of previous total digital camera sales - albeit with pocket camera's taking the largest hit - but 2014 was also a nightmare for Canon and Nikon DSLR sales.
Per CIPA figures for 2014 of the 42.8 million still cameras produced only 10.32 million were DSLRs.

This contrasts to 2013 figures of 61 million still cameras produced only 13.64 million were DSLRs.

DSLRs are the domain dominated by Canon/Nikon.

I think in 2015 sales for still cameras will drop below 30 million and sales for lenses will drop below 16 million while smartphones will hold steady at around 1.3 billion give or take 0.1 billion units.

Current owners shouldnt worry. Our cameras will work perfectly fine until it breaks down or get stolen just like our PCs that has kept flat growth for the past few years.

Either still camera brands merge/bought out, turn into yet another Android smartphone brand, explore more lucrative markets (ie Cinema EOS) or go higher end (ie point & shoots with larger image sensors or Pentax going full frame/medium format).

Another way to look at the figures is that unless you are a a trend setter/early adopter your average consumer is lengthening the duration of their upgrade cycles as new product segments are created to take their money.

Like say the personal computer, it appears people are going beyond the 3 year upgrade cycle and those buying are first time owners. Those who already have a personal computer are buying a tablet/smartphone instead.

Those people who traditionally bought a point and shoot are now probably happier with a smartphone.

Some stats on smartphone users in 2014 from Samsung.

How smartphones are used

92% use it to take photos
80% use it to send photos

Criteria for buying a smartphone

36% image quality of the camera

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