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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D X High ISO shot preview
« on: January 01, 2012, 09:42:52 AM »
You know what, I think has to do with politics and crap. Aka, let's make the camera only so much better so that people might want to upgrade, the way Canon pretty much always does. Instead of really taking the advantage of the available tech.

That's called marketing and generating sustainable profit.



Yes, I agree with that, but I'm still allowed to think it's BS from a customer p.o.v. I hate spending $6800 on a camera every two years, only to know that they COULD have done it better, and that I pay that kind of money from a small upgrade. Having that said, the improvements that are done are great ones. I for one always buy a camera from AF-system first second and third, then the fps and noise levels. So you can imagine me being a bit upset with the mk3, now, the mk4 is a MASSIVE upgrade, but still, one shot and or slow moving subject in indoor light makes it miss a lot, and if there's a lightsource on the sides or behind the subject it's hardly perfect. So if they can make this truly better with the X, I can live with the noise. Adobe needs to update and keep ut with Lr also. Then we're gettin somewhere...


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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D X High ISO shot preview
« on: January 01, 2012, 09:12:28 AM »
You're missing the point. The MFT being better than the 5d2 , lol. This depends on a lot of other things than the sensor, how about the rest of the computing in camera? Do you really think they use the same software and the same computing power in a $300 compact as they do in a flagship pro-body? And besides, the pixels still are smaller and smaller, whilst the 1d X uses 20% bigger pixels than the mk4. With micro lenses to more effective use of the light available. The pixels on the X is even bigger than the 5d2. And while the 5d original had much larger pixels than the 5d2, the latter was waay better. 5d being 6 years, well yeah, but the 5d2 was only released three years later.

You know what, I think has to do with politics and crap. Aka, let's make the camera only so much better so that people might want to upgrade, the way Canon pretty much always does. Instead of really taking the advantage of the available tech.

What I am very excited about is the new AF system. Let's just cross our fingers that Canon haven't done the same as the last time they "started from scratch".. Owning a early mk3 wasn't the greatest experience....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D X High ISO shot preview
« on: January 01, 2012, 08:05:10 AM »
I actually sa a quote saying that it wouldn't be as much as two stops when converted from raw.

Do you think two stops is much when you JUST read my post? Explain that please...

Again, the mk4 and mk3 have the same size sensor, way smaller than FF. So based on previous cameras two stops is what you get from the next generation with the SAME SENSORSIZE. That is NOT the case here. It also states that the microlenses is used for the first time on a FF sensor, which must be to better the lightgathering to each pixel, now, with a fraction higher res, and less than on the 1ds3 and 5d sensor, it seems the microlens stuff could just as well have been skipped. Look at the 5d and the 5d2, same size sensor, no microlens, yet the 5d2 is WAAAAY better at higher iso's AND with nearly TWICE the res.

So I would very much like explained for what reason the 1d X is only two stops better than my mk4 withe the "same" res on a way smaller snesor and being two years older.... And that's just when we jump over the fact that the X sensor has been in the making since the release of 5d2....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D X High ISO shot preview
« on: January 01, 2012, 07:17:18 AM »
I still can't believe the 1d X is only two stops better than the mk4, it should at least been three stops, AND the two stops are with in-camera raw-conversion...

First off with microlens on FF. Only a tiny 2mp more than the mk4 with a much bigger sensor and two years of development (I'm guessing 4 years). New processor, and still we only get the same difference as between the mk3 and mk4, and the mk4 was 60% (!!!) increase in resolution on the same sensor, something doesn't add up......

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+1 for Odin -1 for PW's ::)

The Odin's never-fail stabillity makes it all the more fun! No misfire still, (after about 2000 shots) and the raaange, oh my the range!

+1 for PW - did a 4 speedlight test today - at about 20m. Did 10 without a miss

20 meters and 10 pictures? Well.....

Odin is at 200m and does ALL shots without a hitch. My problems with the PW's were extreme if the flashes were to close or to far apart and if the camera was to close or too far away...

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+1 for Odin -1 for PW's ::)

The Odin's never-fail stabillity makes it all the more fun! No misfire still, (after about 2000 shots) and the raaange, oh my the range!

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Wow! That's pretty scary!  Send it back , mine def not do that!!

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Lenses / Re: Nikon 50mm f/1.2 on Canon 5D mk ll
« on: December 28, 2011, 03:41:13 AM »
Old lenses aren't made for digital. Read the "coating" article just posted here on CR. Besides sharpness, CA and corners are vastly improved on newer lenses. I tried and old 35-70 on the 5d2 just for fun, and while this was a standard lens back in the day it look the worst ever on the 5d. Full Frame tend to tell you exactly wahat is wrong with your lens in a brutal way. Just genrally speaking here. There are a few gems out there, but none better than the lens that replaced them.

Canon do also make lenses, and if the same spec'd lenses are way cheaper with Nikon, like your 50, well then it's for a reason.

You can get away with a lot on crop that you absolutely don't on FF.

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Seems rules might be different elsewhere, but there isn't a single realestate photographer in Norway who shoots rooms at anything wider than 24mm. For the outdoorshots, it doesn't matter to go wider, but inside the 17ish lenses makes the room look waaay longer than it is, and that is why it isn't used. Rather you shoot from different angles, and place a key sellingpoint in a 1/3 comp in each image instead. HDR with PROPER (not acid) tonemapping is okay outside, and to put a fire in the fireplace and such, but indoors, forget about normal exposure, blow it out!! The brighter the room looks, the better, plus you get rid of any clutter outside the windows by blowing them out (Ah, I see the pun there :P)

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EOS Bodies / Re: How many of you would....
« on: December 24, 2011, 02:58:44 AM »
I'm not quite sure I'm getting this, but if the quality is better and the quantity is less, doesn't that make the background more in focus and more cluttered, therefore the image dosen't look as soft and smooth on crop as on FF? That is my experience, so I would always prefer the LESS dof and more blurred background to the quality of the bokeh, because imo, you can't have one without the other.

For example, I use the 70-200 mkII on both 5d2 and the mk4, and I like the less dof of the 5d2, it just looks better, can't say I have thought more of it than that, if the actual highlightspeckels are a different shape it doesn't come across as more intruding than more depth I get from the mk4..

Anyway, Merry Christmas everyone!

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EOS Bodies / Re: How many of you would....
« on: December 23, 2011, 05:59:04 PM »
Do we just leave out that the aps-h doesn't accept ef-s lenses? Canon will never give up their main group of ef-s lens buyers.. 7 with H sensor will never happen... plus you get no wideangle..

I was just saying APS-H in a 7d "type" body. I am not saying you have to change the whole 7d line. Call it a 6d...call it whatever.
Give up their ef-s buyers? What $3000+ camera uses ef-s lenses now?

No room in the lineup for that camera. Why don't you just buy my mk4 when I FINALLY get the 1d X with proper AF and FF?

You see what happened with the 60d, everybody started bitching about it being less of a camera than a 50d, but what should Canon do to place a camera between the 7d and the 550d... So if they should both have a 1d X, a "7d" with H-sensor, and the 5d3 AND the 7d2, how would you spec them to make prices in between each other. Doesn't make sense.. If the 5d3 get proper AF, you have it too close to the 1d X, this is what happened, with IQ of the 5d2 and the 1ds3, they killed each other. And the 7d is a BIG seller, and so is the 5d2. Most people don't need 10 or 12 fps, or that insane tracking capibility, well, they need it, they just don't want to shell out that kind of money. And if they do, they buy a 1d X which is MUCH cheaper than most people thought it would be, comparing to the 1ds3. They will end up too close to each other, or you feel that one of these camera is only spec'd to fit a market, not to actually be proper camera filling a gap. Why do you think Canon killed the H-sensor? mk3 owners or would be mk4 owners started getting the 7d, Canon needs to make space, not fill gaps as I see it. Should they also release a camera between the g12 and s95/s100?

IF you get a 7d type body with H-sensor and 7-8 fps, I would still buy a used mk4, because it was made to be as good as it gets... And if you haven't opened up a 1d and see the inside, you really have no idea how stuffed it is to make it work like they do. And when you see what they have done with the 1d X, and only two stop better iso, it takes some serious engineering to move on from each better model, and then to half all that in size in $3000 dollar body? "the technology exist"? I don't think so...

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EOS Bodies / Re: How many of you would....
« on: December 23, 2011, 02:28:19 PM »
Do we just leave out that the aps-h doesn't accept ef-s lenses? Canon will never give up their main group of ef-s lens buyers.. 7 with H sensor will never happen... plus you get no wideangle..

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Why bother with a mirror? Wow....

If you try burst mode and af between frames on a A77 and 7D, that will answer your question. The day I can't by a camera with optical VF, it's the day I find another hobby. The EVF suck.... Plus, the way Sony have done it is by reducing the amount of light in by 30%, yeah, that's what we need for photo, LESS light....

Why are we so desperate to get rid of the mirror? You don't buy a 1-series Canon despite of it's size and weight and mirror and af and FF, you buy it because of all those things. The hybrids are glorified lens-caps.

For those who just don't get the advantage of a mirror and Phase-AF, there's always a NEX or a GF3, but to claim we should loose the mirror-system all together is a completely two-cans-short-of a six-pack-statement...

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EOS Bodies / Re: When will Canon 1D-X release?
« on: December 22, 2011, 04:31:39 PM »


surelly the 1Dx isnt going to be that much better, and with reports of it saying its 2 stops better than before that only at best equals the D3s

Don't mean to avoid initial question, I think it will be delayed until late April.

As for ISO-improvement, I don't get the "only" two stops either. If we look at previous 1-series:

The mk4 is two stops better than the mkIII, well, so far so good, only that is the SAME size sensor with a 60% INCREASE in resolution.

The 1d X benefits from a larger sensor, first ever with gapless microlenses, new processor, only a veeeery slight increase in res, and decrease compared to the 1ds3 and 5d2 sensor. So two years later, bigger sensor, new processor, new tech on the sensor itself should, in theory, equal to at least 3,5 stops.... If someone knows why, other than this is what Canon do, small improvements that SHOULD have been more... And I still think that the points are very cluster, although it seems I was right in saying that the previous af-points were too large for precise af, look at the size difference between mk4 points and 1d X...

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