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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 15, 2014, 02:59:22 AM »
+1 for the 85 L, it makes a snapshot of your trashcan look like a pro commercial shot ;D


I know Canon has another lens that can make this trash can looks even BETTER.... take a guess ;D

Thanks Viggo ;)

Say 200mm f/2 IS and you're done!

Here's a more scientific comparison of sharpness. Seems the Sigma vs Canon L decision is really sharpness vs. bokeh, respectfully. If I had a 50L I probably wouldn't sell, but since I don't, I'm still super excited about my preorder :)

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=941&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=403&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1

Cool to see this, but still still won't change my 50L love 8)  I'll stay off in la la land and pretend a sharper 50mm (or two) don't exist :o

In all seriousness, the 50L a great lens for my uses (portraits and walkaround, but I'm sure the new Sigma will be quite a lens.


Lol! That was (not surprisingly) going to be my next guess. I'll have to wait and see more from the 50 art, but I downloaded the Zip and checked out the raw's. It seems the 50 L is brighter at same exif, which I like, and the samples are not in very controlled setting, the light has changed and it's much harder to tell, but I thought it would be MUCH better. Maybe he has a dud?

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 14, 2014, 06:42:42 PM »
I love all these new options coming to market! It seems if you already have a 50L no big deal, keep it. Question is, will anyone still buy the 50L for an extra $600 over the 50A? Is the bokeh $600 better if you don't already have the 50L? Not so sure.
50A is now on my list (along with a bunch of other lenses). Starting my letter to Santa now!

We will see loads of used 50 L's in the following months, here it's now only 200 usd more than the new 50 Art.

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 14, 2014, 06:03:42 PM »
+1 for the 85 L, it makes a snapshot of your trashcan look like a pro commercial shot ;D

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 14, 2014, 03:44:04 PM »
Pretty surprising to me this, it seems to be very opposite from other places. And corner performance is the problem with the 50 L for me. If it had the same sharpness across the frame as it does in the center I would never sell it.
It does limit off center compositions, but neither of my copies have been as soft as the test charts would indicate and I find the middle 1/2 of the frame is acceptable wide open.  If I need to put something critical in the outer parts of the frame, I'll either crop or stop down to f/2.  At f/1.2, any shots that turn out soft are more likely my fault, not the lens' fault :)

Maybe I'm wrong, I just very quickly scanned the SLR Lounge review, but isn't he limiting his pixel-peeping to primarily the center of the frame? And isn't it the center of the frame where the Canon 50L is strongest?
No, you're right, but I still have no regrets on the cancellation.  $950 is still $950 and I have the 24-70 II for the subjects I shoot where corner sharpness is necessary (landscapes, buildings) and I'd be stopping down to at least f/11 for them anyways.

I have had 4 copies of the 50 L and they have all been great and VERY similar in all aspects. And I didn't like the off center sharpness, I kind of always want it to be the corner performer the 85 L is at the biggest apertures. And it seemed like the Sigma would cover that, but, hm, I'm not preordering at least :oP

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Lenses / Re: Review: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 DG HSM Art
« on: April 14, 2014, 03:08:47 PM »
Here's what I've been waiting for - a 50L to 50A comparison from SLR Lounge

I think it's enough to convince me to cancel my pre-order.  The Sigma is sharper, but not shockingly so, and the Canon's bokeh is slightly better (IMHO).  The Canon also appears to have ever-so-slightly better contrast, while the Sigma has better CA control, but again, only by a hair.

The other thing I've learned is that you'll have buy the USB dock to enable full time manual focus (which I guess isn't standard for Sigmas).  That's crappy. 

The 50L has killer build quality and USM in a much smaller package and I don't think the Sigma is worth 950 of my dollars for such subtle differences at f/1.4 in what for me, is a portrait lens. 

I guess I can't cancel it till the 24th, so I'll keep my mind open until then, but I think I'm going to cancel and resume the 50L II vigil ;)


I agree that if I had the 50L, I'd stick with it. But for a first-time buyer of a high end 50mm, I think the Sigma would be the better choice. The price difference is very difficult to ignore.


Pretty surprising to me this, it seems to be very opposite from other places. And corner performance is the problem with the 50 L for me. If it had the same sharpness across the frame as it does in the center I would never sell it.

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Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 14, 2014, 01:13:42 PM »
Fair enough!

It's ok, we have an excuse - you misstated, and I misinterpreted your statement, because we haven't grown up enough to have outgrown zoom lenses!   ;D

Ouch! HAHA ;D

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Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 14, 2014, 01:03:36 PM »
Neuro, I think you misread Viggo's sentence- as I did the first time !

Ahh, yes - I missed the "" marks around that phrase…but that might be because they weren't there the first time.   ;)

Fair enough!

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Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 14, 2014, 12:59:39 PM »
And if we really want to do the test chart, 35 IS is better than the zoom by far comparison, here it is:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=824&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=1&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0

And the 35 is a full stop down while the 2470 is wide open.


"By far?"  Not really.  It's pretty much a wash, and the Photozone testing shows the same.  Also, that's only sharpness.  The 24-70 II at 35mm has less distortion, similar vignetting, more CA, and less LoCA than the 35/2 IS.  So for overall IQ, I'd call it a draw. 

At any focal length other than 35mm, the 24-70 II has a significant advantage.  At apertures wider than f/2.8, the 24-70 II has a major deficit.   ;)

But also, the 35/2 IS wide open is not as sharp as the 24-70 II wide open (link), and that difference is more apparent.


I think there have been a misunderstanding, I AM NOT supporting the OP here, I support the 2470 being epic, as well as the 70-200 mk2. I have added ".." to my original post so that it's more clear I was being ironic and quoting, not agreeing  ;D

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Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 14, 2014, 12:50:13 PM »
And if we really want to do the test chart, 35 IS is better than the zoom by far comparison, here it is:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=824&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=1&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0

And the 35 is a full stop down while the 2470 is wide open.



In the corner the 24-70 is better, no?

Yes  :)

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Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 14, 2014, 12:44:41 PM »
And if we really want to do the test chart, "35 IS is better than the zoom by far"- comparison, here it is:

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=824&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=787&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=1&FLIComp=2&APIComp=0

And the 35 is a full stop down while the 2470 is wide open.

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Lenses / Re: New 50mm Sigma ? There are other options !
« on: April 14, 2014, 04:10:16 AM »
I had zooms , then went for primes, because "I outgrew my zooms" but now have a mix of them. If you think a 35 IS is a better choice then a 2470 mk2, then wow.. I use my zooms like I use my primes, I choose my focal for the intended perspective, and then I move my feet in the same way I do with a prime. To me the blistering AF of the zooms often outweighs the faster aperture of a prime. But the 2470 can't do what the 85 and the 200 f2 does and they sure is heck can't do what the 2470 can. I'm going to take a wild guess here , but I guess this is why Canon make all the different lenses they do?

A 35 IS will never ever replace a 50 f1.4 for me. And I am one of the worlds biggest fans of the 35 1.4's, but I also happen to be that for the fast 50's also, and they are VERY different.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 50mm f/1.4 Art Gets Reviewed
« on: April 09, 2014, 05:39:33 PM »
". does anyone actually care about the corner resolution at f1.4? "

Well, yeah.. The whole point for me considering the Sigma over another 50 L, is the ability to compose off center and preferably all the way out in the corners with nice resolution and ideally, same IQ as the center.

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 50mm F/1.4 Art listed in Belarus for $790
« on: April 05, 2014, 04:20:31 PM »
I'm excited!

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Canon General / Re: PMIdigital - worth it?
« on: April 05, 2014, 11:00:47 AM »
I bought a 300 f2.8 L IS from them back in the day and they were most helpful. They even called me a couple of times to confirm I was willing to pay the 600 dollar shipping, and even though it was a destination outside what they normally did, I got it in perfect working order and the lens was made only two months before I got. Nothing but nice thing to say.

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YES! I want to know! End of story, we all do..

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