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Lenses / Re: Help me justify the 17mm TS-E

« on: January 31, 2012, 04:48:48 AM »

Hi, I got the TS-E 24L II a few months ago and really love this lens. The TS-E 17 is very similar and the wider angle of view would be amazing. But for proper landscapes I need filters and this is easier done with the TS-E 24L II. To use at least the lee filter holder on the TS-E 17mm you would have to adapt the lens cap by yourself because this lens has no filter threat.

Panorama shots are very easily done with the TS-E 17mm with the shift. Oft course the main application for the shift feature is architecture and it makes really a lot of fun with such a lens.
The tilt is quite useful to get an extended depth of field in landscape shots. The miniature effect is as big as with longer focal lengths.

BTW, do not get the Hcam lens adapter. It's too expensive and less useful than this one: http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/Neue-Adapter-von-Zoerk (you can buy it directly from Zoerk if you drop Mr. Zörkendorf an email (see his website). He will quote 220€ for it and it's available in the EU & USA). I got it myself and use it 90% of the time. This tripod collar is really useful to avoid parallax errors and because the larger hole in its base is directly located in the nodal point of the TS-E 17mm and TS-E 24L II. I put it onto a panorama plate and so I can use the shift and take panoramas. This not possible with any other lens + tripod collar combination with a Canon DSLR. Such a shifted panroma is useful for architecture and also for lanscapes.

Where Can I buy that tripod-collar? And the one that fits the 24, maybe it doesn't fit the larger 17?

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* New High-End DSLR Later in February [CR3]

« on: January 30, 2012, 05:53:33 PM »

It heard it would be CPS members first, but nothing from the norwegian dealers about it either.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will anti-aliasing filters doom even forthcoming Canons to early obsolescence?

« on: January 30, 2012, 05:47:48 PM »

FWIW the Leica S2 is a pretty expensive camera and it suffers very badly from moiré from what I've seen from shots a friend of mine took.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D-X: "Full" 2-Stops ISO Improvment...only in JPEG??

« on: January 29, 2012, 01:50:23 PM »

I would take clean high iso to get my shutterspeed fast enough over twice the mp any day, and that is just common sense;

If your image is fantastically high res, you will see every bit of that juuuust to long shutter speed you used, and you'll have a useless image. I can tell you, going from mk3 to mk4 with the same size sensor but 60% increase in res, I had to double my shutterspeed, giving me the exact same noise under the same exact light. Now, the pictures that did stick with the mk4 had much better detail, but I had a lot of shots I kept, but can't use for anything due to (unexpected) motion-blur.

The 1d X will be the ultimate camera for me, no matter what I am shooting, and I can shoot things I could never dream of with the mk4. After trying this new AF, I had chills for the first time using a camera. It is just astonishing...

But if you do landscape, why would you buy a Worldclass AF-system and 12 fps? Buy a 5d2 for your landscapes, very little will surpass it.

+1

The high MP bodies do need a tripod, good IS lens, or a faster shutter speed to actually realize the increased resolution.  Even Canon mentioned this in one of their articles about shooting with the new high mp bodies.  Of course, you can get lucky and hit on one of 8 or 10 at lower shutter speeds.

A higher ISO rating at existing MP lets you keep the same shutter speeds you are using and get better resolution, or it lets you increase shutter speeds if your current one is too low.

I'm expecting to hear the Nikon users scream as they adjust to a 36 mp sensor and find they need to double or triple shutter speeds to get the high resolution.

Excellent points, both! I think you guys hailed the consequence of higher resolution on the head, at least for photography where you can't or don't necessarily use a tripod.

Here's the article, or AF-guide, check out page 34 and 35. I tell you, I can't be more excited that Canon kept it at 18 giving me 21% larger pixels, and therefore (I don't know the real math of this) giving me 21% longer shutterspeed with sharp images.

http://www.canon.co.uk/Images/EOS%201D%20MK%20IV%20AF%20guide_tcm14-721275.pdf

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D-X: "Full" 2-Stops ISO Improvment...only in JPEG??

« on: January 29, 2012, 07:10:18 AM »

Any pro looking to replace an aging 1Ds mkIII should be very careful if they seriously think the 1Dx is a possible replacement.

I wouldn't worry too much about that. For me I cap out at ISO 3200 on the 1Ds3, so two stops improvement over the 1D4 is quite jump for me. ISO 12800 is more than enough. The only reason I didn't move to the 1D4 is because it wasn't full frame.

Your potentially looking at a superior ISO 3200 though I'd guess if previous ISO upgrades are anything to go by.

I very much felt the 1d X @ 3200 were very close to 800 on the 1d mkIV, so yeah, the two stops is probably correct. Besides, now with the new Lightroom 4, you're looking at 0,5 to 1 stop extra over the Lr3. And also MUCH better DR.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D-X: "Full" 2-Stops ISO Improvment...only in JPEG??

« on: January 29, 2012, 05:42:00 AM »

I would take clean high iso to get my shutterspeed fast enough over twice the mp any day, and that is just common sense;

If your image is fantastically high res, you will see every bit of that juuuust to long shutter speed you used, and you'll have a useless image. I can tell you, going from mk3 to mk4 with the same size sensor but 60% increase in res, I had to double my shutterspeed, giving me the exact same noise under the same exact light. Now, the pictures that did stick with the mk4 had much better detail, but I had a lot of shots I kept, but can't use for anything due to (unexpected) motion-blur.

The 1d X will be the ultimate camera for me, no matter what I am shooting, and I can shoot things I could never dream of with the mk4. After trying this new AF, I had chills for the first time using a camera. It is just astonishing...

But if you do landscape, why would you buy a Worldclass AF-system and 12 fps? Buy a 5d2 for your landscapes, very little will surpass it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1D-X: "Full" 2-Stops ISO Improvment...only in JPEG??

« on: January 28, 2012, 07:31:29 AM »

Unless anyone has a raw-image to process, this thread has no poin to it...

From what I saw yesterday, the difference in chroma noise is very substantial. I made sure to turn off all NR in camera. Shooting at 12800 looks so much better than the mk4 it's crazy... And I gotta say, just comparing DxO marks is stupid. I've seen lots of examples where they rate something and it's not what you see in real life. More color-noise is better than more luminance noise, easier to remove. Besides, the LOOK of the noise is also VERY important for the final image.

From what I saw trying the 1d X yesterday, it is a huge improvement.

Another thing, high iso's are not just for shooting in the dark. It's to decrease shutterspeed in normal light, and I tried at iso 12800 in a well lit store to get very fast shutter, and it was nearly no noise at all.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?

« on: January 28, 2012, 07:04:25 AM »

This could mean that it's delayed for "normal" customers and that there are too many journalists that are getting one...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?

« on: January 27, 2012, 06:05:27 PM »

I think the f/8 problem is a huge issue.  No 2x TC on the new 500II or 600II or 1.4x on the 800L if you want to autofocus.  To make matters worse,  the Nikon D4 can auotfocus at f/8.  I think somebody at Canon dropped the ball here.  This has to be an over-sight and not intentional.

I think the new battery makes the camera a little heavy and probaly pushing 1300g+.  I can imagine shooting all day with the 1D X with either the 85L, 70-200II or the 24-70L attached to it.

If you think this is an oversight and unintentional you are dead wrong. NOTHING about these cameras, or any lower for that matter, is unintentional.

Would you rather have the mk4 AF system which can focus at f8 but have much worse issues, or the 1d X which is insanely good at anything but f8? Either way, you have a camera to buy.

Did you mean "can't" or can imagine 1d X with a 85 all day? beacuse I can imagine that, it's what we all have done so far, and the weight difference between a mk4 and a 1d X is nothing....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Delayed?

« on: January 27, 2012, 04:56:29 PM »

One of the biggest shops here says May 3rd. (Norway)

I really hope none of this is the case. But there are sh!tloads of journalists that will get it first, you know, the Olympics and all. But I am optimistic, I've been through this before with both the mk3 and mk4, and I only need one, and with a little patience and some lobbying, I usually end up with a very early one. Not that hard, but just sign up for a waiting list is not going to get you one, at least not early.

On a sidenot, I tried one today, and my god, however long we have to wait, it is sooo worth it. And do not worry about the buffer, I kept the button down for over 4 seconds and it didn't slow down at all, and the memorycard inside : Kingston 8gb 133x speed

The lowlight AF is beyond anything, and the sheer response of the whole camera is mindblowing!! It makes the mk4 look like an expensive toy, old and sluggish. The 1d X VF is the biggest and best I've seen ever. But, again, the response of AF and shutter is just out of this world. You can so very much feel how much faster it locks AF and that it is NO lag before tracking.

It has the new "Zoom in in play mode" like the Mystery Camera. Push Play and then the magnifyer (placed right next to it) and boom , 100% cut. The buttons have all been reworked and give great feel, even with gloves now, the AF-ON button is leaps better. The new joystick makes the camera feel very simmiliar both in portrait and landscape oientation.

The ultimate camera.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: RAW and ISO

« on: January 25, 2012, 06:20:30 PM »

Shooting at iso 100 and pushing the raw-file up two stops in post is NOT AT ALL the same as shooting at 400 iso!! That's crazy...

YOu are better off using "Av" on your camera, set the aperture that gives you the depth of field you want, and check if the shutter speed is what you need. if not go only as high up in iso as you need, but make sure your exposure is bright enough.

On the 5d2 I'm very often 1 stop overexposed, and pull maybe down a little in post instead, but never underexpose and push it up, that'll give you so much more noise. Always get it right in camera, that will give the cleanest files in post.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5d Mark iii sync speed

« on: January 25, 2012, 04:49:22 PM »

Just to stir the mud a little more, the G12 will sync without using HSS at 1/4000th although for some odd reason not with the ST-E2 where it's a little slower.  It's left me wondering the kind of shutter the G1X is going to have, focal plane as per the NEX or electronic like the G12.

Does the G1X have a focal plane shutter?  My guess based on the above is no - a 1/4000 sync speed means electronic 'curtains'.

Thanks! That explains a lot!

I used to have a Sony compact that also synced at 1/1000s and froze action like nothing else. I understand how the shutter of an SLR works, but I have never thought of what the negative sides to an electronic "curtain" is? Can someone fill me in? Why doesn't the slr's use electronic "curtains"? You could still have the mirror and everything, right?

Lag is the reason for a focal plane shutter.  Compact cameras continually read image data from the sensor when the shutter is pressed the sensor has to first be cleared, then allowed to expose for a set period before it's read & then wiped again, it all takes time, not a huge amount and compact cameras are much more responsive than they used to be, but still nothing like as fast as a DSLR.

Neuro I think you miss read my post, I can get the G12 to sync at 1/4000th I've no idea what the G1X will sync at just wondering as it has a much bigger sensor, and the NEX which is the nearest equivalent does use the focal plane shutter (and very noisy it is too!)

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5d Mark iii sync speed

« on: January 25, 2012, 03:37:10 PM »

Just to stir the mud a little more, the G12 will sync without using HSS at 1/4000th although for some odd reason not with the ST-E2 where it's a little slower.  It's left me wondering the kind of shutter the G1X is going to have, focal plane as per the NEX or electronic like the G12.

Does the G1X have a focal plane shutter?  My guess based on the above is no - a 1/4000 sync speed means electronic 'curtains'.

I used to have a Sony compact that also synced at 1/1000s and froze action like nothing else. I understand how the shutter of an SLR works, but I have never thought of what the negative sides to an electronic "curtain" is? Can someone fill me in? Why doesn't the slr's use electronic "curtains"? You could still have the mirror and everything, right?

I'm sure others will provide more detail on this but I believe it has to do with the sensor type. The G12 has a CCD sensor while the Canon SLRs have CMOS sensors. From all I know there are pros and cons to both types but what you describe is one difference where it's easier to accomplish different behaviors in one way or another.

Leaf shutters like on medium format cameras would be another option to increase sync speed.

In any case, neither have anything to do with freezing action since you can do that even at slow shutter speeds. Things like high speed sync (or high shutter sync speeds) are more important to control ambient light.

Thanks, yeah, I was out with my son shooting wirless flash, and even in a normal minus daylight, I had the 580 on full power, and it wasn't exactly all I needed...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5d Mark iii sync speed

« on: January 25, 2012, 02:07:20 PM »

Just to stir the mud a little more, the G12 will sync without using HSS at 1/4000th although for some odd reason not with the ST-E2 where it's a little slower.  It's left me wondering the kind of shutter the G1X is going to have, focal plane as per the NEX or electronic like the G12.

Does the G1X have a focal plane shutter?  My guess based on the above is no - a 1/4000 sync speed means electronic 'curtains'.

I used to have a Sony compact that also synced at 1/1000s and froze action like nothing else. I understand how the shutter of an SLR works, but I have never thought of what the negative sides to an electronic "curtain" is? Can someone fill me in? Why doesn't the slr's use electronic "curtains"? You could still have the mirror and everything, right?

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Lenses / Re: How will new ultra high ISO bodies impact f/2.8 telephoto zoom lenses?

« on: January 25, 2012, 03:17:46 AM »

Should think It would have more affect on the need for fast wide angle primes!  Really any need for a 24mm 1.4 anymore?

Have you ever used a 24 f1,4 L II on a fullframe body?? The look of the picture you get at that wide angle and that shallow depth can't be done by anything else.

Nope, never have, but I would certainly love to see an example of a real world shot using the 24 1.4 wide open [out of 100 shots - how many @ 1.4?] compared to ones shot at f2 or even 2.8 - real difference? care to share?  Anyway, I didn't really mean to suggest that nobody would want the faster wide angle lens, but they are pricey, big and the DOF advantages aren't as obvious [compared to telephotos].  I'm simply surmising that many [most?] folks will find less need for them as high ISO performance improves.  If Canon made a nice 24mm f2 L - I'd be all over it!

I'll go out on a limb and predict that across the board - high ISO cameras will increasingly cannabalize [not eliminate] the sales of fast [zoom and prime] lenses for ALOT of shooters - how could it not? Size and price really do matter!

Here's how my son looks when I tell him something he doesn't think is true, the skeptic look

http://photobyviggo.com/random/mail31.jpg

Shot with the 50L on a 5d @1,2