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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 07:04:34 AM »
Start always friendly: It is OPV v/s EVF. DSLR v/s ML. Both are super in their own ways, IMHO. End always friendly.

May I then add: Prime vs Zoom?

No no. Hahahaha.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 05:49:20 AM »
May the best technology win!

[friendly]I do not believe the objective is for any "technology" to actually win, as there really isn't the competition as some people perceive, e.g. FF vs crop and DSLR vs mirrorless. For me it is more there having been a fork in the road and each "technology" moving in different directions, each with its own goals, objectives and customer base. The big question for companies like Canon and Nikon are therefore more how they can keep dominating the market by offering a diverse range of products so to have the largest possible customer base. On the other hand, if they cannot spread their resources so wide, then the logical solution would be to rather concentrate on that which is sustainable in the long run and concede the (lower revenue) "niche" markets to smaller companies.[/friendly]

Start always friendly: It is OPV v/s EVF. DSLR v/s ML. Both are super in their own ways, IMHO. End always friendly.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 04:17:52 AM »
Someone keeps thinking that in the future all cameras will be full frame? :-X
I think crop cameras are safe, too.  If anything, the comments above about "pro" users makes me think the days of FF cameras might be numbered.

Crop sensors have improved significantly over the last few years.  And, if Canon was to implement the latest improvements in manufacturing techniques and sensor design, we'd struggle to see much IQ advantage of a FF sensor over an APS-C sensor (in fact, with other brands, you struggle to see the difference now).  DOF differences and shooting at very high ISOs and more MPs will still be attractive incentives for crop camera users to change to a FF camera.  But I suspect a growing number of people will decide that crop cameras are good enough. 

To differentiate themselves in a competitive market, I see more studio-based and wedding photographers moving to medium format and abandoning 1DX/D3X/D4S style cameras. (And in the next two years, there will be at least another two new, smaller, medium format systems introduced in the 1DX price range to attract these photographers.)  Many wildlife and sports shooters will prefer the extra "reach" of a 7D3.  Current 5D3 users will continue to transition to Sony and Fuji mirrorless systems.  I don't know if there will many people left to buy Canon FF cameras.

How does this all tie into this topic?  Canon have only made muted sounds about medium format and that doesn't give people looking for a medium format option the confidence to stay around for a bit longer.  They will move to other brands.  A very high percentage of mirrorless buyers are DSLR owners, yet they are also leaking away to other brands.  We can tell from the rumors posted here and the details of patents that Canon has the ability to make class leading crop sensors, but we haven't seen much evidence of Canon investing any $$$ in manufacturing plant and instead we have Canon polishing up the same sensor they've had for how many generations of cameras?  This leads to website stories about how Canon is falling behind, which might lead people doing research on their first camera to choose another brand.  Added to this, there hasn't been a noticeable drive to develop EF-S lenses anyway.  And with the Eos-M, a quick look at the B&H site suggests you can't even buy an Eos-M and if you already had one and were after another lens, I hope it is the 22/2 that you seek as it is the only one available.

Cant predict the long term future and this is quite possible. But in the near future I think full frame provides the best 'portable/speed' IQ in the market.

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Canon General / Re: New acronym patent: WO?
« on: Today at 02:39:57 AM »
hahahahaha

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 02:38:25 AM »
Let's see Canon's financials compared to it's competitors.

Not interested except that I hope their financial lead helps them with R&D to give us the best possible cameras.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 12:34:03 AM »
If you can't figure that out, that's more than sad, it's pathetic.
Ditto on not being able to explain it to me.

As I've stated before, you seem to have trouble seeing any viewpoint other than your own.  There are nearly as many reasons people would choose the 6D over the 70D as there are people who make that choice.  I could produce a list of reasons, but they're not my reasons...

But if you must have a reason, try this for starters...




They've already lost the mirrorless market ... almost everyone who wanted mirrorless has switched by now.

Really?  If so, then consider that dSLRs continue to outsell MILCs by a very large margin, and extrapolate from that the implication for the future of MILCs.

Hmmm. Not with you there. I wait and observe. I believe MILCs are not only here to stay but to grow exponentially. May the best technology win!

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 12:25:34 AM »
However, for those of us who do not need *GASP* "full-frame", having to purchase "full-frame" lenses for our "crop-frame" cameras 'cause Canon neglected to cater to our needs, is bad economy: we pay for what we cannot even use.

Bad economy for you, you mean.  Canon cares about their economy, but about yours only insofar as you give them your money. 

Consider the reverse...if you as a crop user did buy a FF body, how would you like to have to buy a complete new set of lenses for it?  The economy of EF lenses mounting on crop bodies works both ways.

I think the same.

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: Today at 12:24:06 AM »
There are photographers who actually prefer the crop sensor.

Yes, and I am one of them.

There are many. MANY. Not me though except for when I need a light family picnic camera.

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Does anyone remember any time in the past there was a discount on a lens even before it started shipping?

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:59:37 AM »

A Fujifilm XT-1 if I remember. A really neat little camera that has so much going for it - except it's not a FF 6D, with a crisp OVF.

Do I detect a hint of jealousy there?

 ;D  No. I have always liked Fuji, right from my days as a teenager using an old Fujica ST701, and I think the XT-1 system is quite appealing. But; I don't feel that the slimmer body is worth trading the OVF for, or losing the full frame. And, as has been pointed out here on CR many times, to achieve the equivalent in lens speed on these crop systems is actually very expensive, more so than FF. Add these factors to the reduced versatility and no, the system isn't for me.

Dearest friend, have you personally ever tried EVF?

Yes, of course, the XT-1 which I understand is probably the best out there at the moment. I thought in my previous post I had made it clear that I have considered the Fuji system.

What can I say ? Call be 'old fashioned' but I like to be able to optically see through the lens in real time, at least on a decent system. I don't think I am alone in this.  I can see that EVFs like the one on the Fuji have great appeal to many; indeed most people are going to find it better than a dim, small pentamirror with slow 'kit' lens on a Rebel, but even then people keep buying cheap dslrs, probably because as it is a mature, simple system it is also cheap to produce and buy.

I perceived a lag, maybe that is just my imagination. The very large size doesn't do it for me, but the ability to reduce the viewfinder size is neat. Then there is the power useage; I want a battery to last as long as possible. In fact I have recently ditched by iphone and got a simple Nokia with a keypad because I am sick of having to charge the iphone every day. Just been to Poland for four days; never had to charge the phone or the camera !

I think we are going to see a FF dslr from Canon which will have interchangeable finders, like in the old days of top end slrs, except now one will be a normal pentaprism, and will be used in the conventional way, and another will be an EVF. You then lock the mirror up and away you go, using the Dual Pixel AF system direct off the sensor for focus. Use it for stills or video, it's up to you. By having the head as a sliding fit from the rear it could incorporate physical plug connections, which would probably needed to do this.

Then those that say Canon isn't innovative will have to find some other area to whinge about.

Thanks so much for replying. I personally find the advantages of EVF overpowering the disadvantages in such a carry around camera. But want my optical on the 1dx.

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:38:06 AM »
How about a Canon Refurbished 6D.  http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-6d-body-refurbished  $1,367.28.

This would be great if all existing lenses are full frame. I do not know if they are.

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:37:12 AM »
See how nice the members of this forum are? Such nice replies! Who said we are rude? hahahaha

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Canon General / Re: Does Canon really deserve this?
« on: November 25, 2014, 08:12:58 AM »

A Fujifilm XT-1 if I remember. A really neat little camera that has so much going for it - except it's not a FF 6D, with a crisp OVF.

Do I detect a hint of jealousy there?

 ;D  No. I have always liked Fuji, right from my days as a teenager using an old Fujica ST701, and I think the XT-1 system is quite appealing. But; I don't feel that the slimmer body is worth trading the OVF for, or losing the full frame. And, as has been pointed out here on CR many times, to achieve the equivalent in lens speed on these crop systems is actually very expensive, more so than FF. Add these factors to the reduced versatility and no, the system isn't for me.

Dearest friend, have you personally ever tried EVF?

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 07:56:18 AM »
How about just the 70D? She already has all the lenses she practically needs for all 'normal' shoots and then some.

There will be more birthdays and occasions to buy her a lens. You can slowly gauge her actual need for a lens over the few months and buy her that particular lens in future.

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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 02:10:54 AM »
With the lenses she already has, I think a newer camera is a better gift. IMHO.

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