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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 21, 2013, 02:40:19 AM »
For those who want better sensor from Nikon and Sony, Please go and buy Nikon/Sony. Then the sales for Canon will going down and force them to produce better camera.

Yes, people are doing this already. I have spent last few weeks doing EXTENSIVE research for my next camera which is small, has high IQ at high ISO and zeroed down to Fuji XE2 with a 1.4 lens. There is nothing from Canon or Nikon which comes c l o s e. Sad but true.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 21, 2013, 02:37:02 AM »
Of course I care about the camera as a whole but that does not take away from the FACT that that Canon sensors are lagging behind. Perhaps other brands do not have things that are going for Canon but this does not change the fact that Canon sensors need and a bit of a fix. How can anyone argue with that? I use 5d3 and will use it but how am I wrong in wishing it's sensor gets better?

Sure, Canon could improve their sensors.  Nikon could improve their lenses, their ergonomics, etc.  Both of them could lower prices, too.  There's no such thing as a perfect system - you pick your compromises and make your choice. Maybe you use both. Maybe you get a Fuji.  There's no right or wrong answer for an individual. 

Earlier, Canon was referred to as a tech company.  How many tech companies have held the top spot in their market for 10 years?  Not that you're doing this, Sanj, but some are crying doom for Canon because they don't see Canon addressing their specific, individual needs.  Those folks aren't seeing the forest for the trees...Canon continues to meet the needs of a majority of customers.

Yes Neuro, even mine! My needs are completely taken care of especially by the 1dx.
My one and only point: We Canon users cannot hide behind the great things that Canon has and the flaws that others have and refuse to admit that Canon sensors need fixing. Thats all.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:52:13 PM »
I'm more curious about the sensor performance, particularly its low ISO dynamic range. If Canon shows no improvement in this department, it's unlikely we'll see anything better coming out of Canon sensors in the next 4 to 5 years.

This is a good example of why we should be oh so concerned about sales figures.  Canon has been behind in low ISO dynamic range throughout their sensor lineup for a few years now, and it hasn't hurt their dSLR sales. 

If the roof on your house looks to be in excellent shape and doesn't leak, would you replace it?  Unlikely…if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  From Canon's perspective, their sensors 'ain't broke'.

Hi Neuro,

I respect your opinion, but I have to disagree with the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality.  Canon is basically a tech company, and if a tech company is being innovative, then sooner or later they are going to be out of business.   I also don’t think you can look at current sales to determine if a company will be successful, or profitable, in the future.

For example, take a look at Blackberry or Nokia, these two companies not too long ago were the 800 lb. gorillas in mobile phones. They had solid sales numbers, and now they are struggling to survive.  I’ll bet when those companies were on top, their management was saying, “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”, and now look at the situation they are in.

If Canon, Nikon, Sony and the other players don’t continue to deliver innovative products, then sooner or later they are going to be the next Blackberry/Nokia. 

Just my two cents.
Thanks

No one can argue with this!

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:47:47 PM »
Defending Canon sensor by saying that the competition camera has flaws in it's working does not go down well with me. No sir.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:46:24 PM »
Sale figures generally reflect:
1. Great legacy of a brand
2. Aggressive advertising
3. Consumer's 'herd' mentality. "It is a Canon man, it is good."

I am not putting down Canon at all. Saying this to say that because Canon sells more, it is NOT by default the better camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 10:41:35 PM »
We need to look at more than 'numbers sold'. For example there are great movies that have not done super business at the box office. But they have been amazing.

How many critically-acclaimed box office flops have sequels?  Ok, there was Tron, but you get my point.  Also, there's a world of difference between selling 'Art' and selling tools. 

...am talking just about IQ.

…IQ at low ISO, you mean.

This is an ostrich act of not facing reality by digging its face in sand. Canon sensor is certainly broke after comparing it with the D800 and Rx1. Like it or not.

The moment you buy a bare silicon sensor from Nikon or Sony, please tell us all about it.  Until that day, keep in mind that people buy cameras, not sensors.  You may not care about anything but the sensor, but the sales figures put you in the minority.  Like it or not.

Of course I care about the camera as a whole but that does not take away from the FACT that that Canon sensors are lagging behind. Perhaps other brands do not have things that are going for Canon but this does not change the fact that Canon sensors need and a bit of a fix. How can anyone argue with that? I use 5d3 and will use it but how am I wrong in wishing it's sensor gets better?

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 12:06:46 PM »
I'm more curious about the sensor performance, particularly its low ISO dynamic range. If Canon shows no improvement in this department, it's unlikely we'll see anything better coming out of Canon sensors in the next 4 to 5 years.

This is a good example of why we should be oh so concerned about sales figures.  Canon has been behind in low ISO dynamic range throughout their sensor lineup for a few years now, and it hasn't hurt their dSLR sales. 

If the roof on your house looks to be in excellent shape and doesn't leak, would you replace it?  Unlikely…if it ain't broke, don't fix it.  From Canon's perspective, their sensors 'ain't broke'.

This is an ostrich act of not facing reality by digging its face in sand. Canon sensor is certainly broke after comparing it with the D800 and Rx1. Like it or not.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 11:58:56 AM »
Like I said before. Canon's "Answer" to the Nikon D800 (and future D900, and the Sony A7R) will come as a big bulky elephant sized 1D-body, with a price tag that most people can't touch.

Ok, then...but what are Nikon and Sony's "Answers" to the 5DIII, which has outsold the D800 and will vastly outsell the a7R?   ::)

Why do people think Canon needs to play Nikon's game?  The D800 was Nikon's attempt to play the game by Canon's rules (we'll see your 8-9 MP increase, and raise you by another 14 MP), and Nikon lost.
When someone attacks a Canon body, you always resort to raw sales. That'S not very interesting.

I agree. We need to look at more than 'numbers sold'. For example there are great movies that have not done super business at the box office. But they have been amazing.
To say Nikon 'lost' is perhaps harsh. As the IQ of the D800 is certainly better than 5d3. A photographer friend who switched from 5d2 to D800 showed me comparisons on his laptop and I cannot any longer defend the IQ of 5d3 vs D800. I do realize 'but but' of autofocus, responsiveness etc but am talking just about IQ.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New EOS-1 in 2014 [CR1]
« on: November 20, 2013, 11:47:42 AM »
But will they be doing a white version?  ;)

The best comment EVER…. :)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Zeiss Otus Initial Impressions
« on: November 20, 2013, 04:07:30 AM »
literally it is a great great lens , almost perfect , no doubt about it.
but it is just too huge , it is longer than the Nikon 24-70mmf2.8G, I think  the size makes it just an impractical lens for many.
I do not mind 4k for a lens of this great, but I do really hate the huge long ugly barrel design.
So I will use my Zeiss 50mm f2 MP for another few years.
if you guys do not mind the huge 50 kind of lens , then just get it , there is nothing comes close to it at least in a lab test.

How?

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Zeiss Otus Initial Impressions
« on: November 20, 2013, 04:03:01 AM »
I totally agree that 50mm is a near essential focal length.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel SL1/Kiss X7 in White
« on: November 17, 2013, 08:37:22 AM »
Whatever...!!

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Review: Zeiss 15mm f/2.8 Distagon
« on: November 17, 2013, 06:30:33 AM »
The Zeiss 15 is a wonderfully sharp Lens, I bought one a while back after seeing some of Sanj's Images with this Lens, love it, but. It's damn heavy, which you can live with, it's manual focus of course, again you can live with and I actually have grown to like Manual Focus Lenses again after buying this lens, but, what just seems dopy, is the non removable (without a lot of very scary effort) dumb assed Hood.

I eventually went and purchased the 17TSE (with the Wonderpana Filter Holder, so now I can use the 17 with all my Lee Filters, Yippee), now very seldom do I take the Zeiss out, I'de love to put the Zeiss 15 into my Underwater housing to replace the Canon 14f2.8 L II, but the dumb assed Hood precludes that. There isn't any doubt though that the Zeiss 15 is a much better Lens in all departments than the Canon 14, except for the dumb assed Hood.

Yeah I know about the lens hood. I was recently shooting underwater and just asked the producer to arrange for the housing, assuming the 5d3 and the Zeiss would fit. But it did not and we all had to wait for the rental house to send the Canon 14mm...

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Lenses / Re: Comparing 16-35 to Nikon 14-24 and Zeiss/Leica primes
« on: November 16, 2013, 08:34:11 AM »
The problem with Ken Rockwell is comparing zoom with prime
Actually, I think the problem was just Ken Rockwell doing anything :)

I know you joking.

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I am always happy when companies innovate and make interesting stuff. I do not see any reason why we should not appreciate their efforts. Really.

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