« on: April 05, 2014, 12:12:02 AM »
Any reason why you would not tell us? I am a member of this forum under the impression that you tell us all you know.
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Has there ever been a 7DII release-date related rumour at the CR2 level? (but as they say, sooner or later, it'll eventually be true lol)
Hold on there partner......nobody said anything about a release date. This is just the announcement. nobody said anything about release dates......
Sanj, it has less color saturation than I like, but the overall composition works pretty well. I bet you love that Zeiss lens!
As for the sky being blown out...I'm not sure 2 more stops would have gotten it all, but it wouldn't have hurt (also unsure why we'd speculate about it unless someone is suggesting a D800...which I would not...and the D800 isn't quite 2 extra stops anyway, is it?). The sky isn't all that important to this composition, though. It's just the way it gets blown out, around the edges of the trees, is not all that pleasant.
I doubt I could have done any better, but what I would have done, would probably be composed differently. I can only guess.
I do like the wide cinemascope aspect, it works well! Kind of looks like a still from a video...I know you're a cinematographer, so that is likely where you are coming from here. I sympathize, I've wanted to make movies since I was a kid!
It'll certainly be something "completely different" from other digital MF: it won't exist. Even though Sony appears to be trying the 'scatter gun' approach to camera systems I cannot believe they will want to develop a system that's in a segment of ever decreasing market share and something of a niche area now. They havent been able to make much inroads into the Nikon/Canon upper end of the DSLR market let alone MF.
I think this rumour's about as credible as the Canon MF one - CR 0.
The only reason the Full Frame vs Crop sensor debate isn't a Medium Format vs Full Frame is because of accessibility.
If Canon were to release a Medium Format solution, complete with new lenses many would drop full frame like a stone. As someone who shoots a H4D50 I can tell you there's no comparison between the two.
It's not even about MP for me either, 18mp is fine. Just massive pixels, large sensor please.
...I would have thought there's credibility in owning the top end of the market.
I don't disagree. I think it's just a question of what that credibility might be worth...especially during difficult economic times.
How many people buy DSLRs based on the top-end? How many care what name plate is on the big white lenses and brick-like bodies at sporting events? How many bought Canon equipment because they saw Art Wolfe on TV? A few maybe, but not many. More likely the choice is made based on what "celebrities" pitch, and and what their friends shoot. Mercedes Benz could not expect much from the name if they got into the budget car market.
a large promotion of the professional advertising market..
How big is that market? Is it big enough to drive Canon's R&D and marketing strategy? Maybe Canon is willing to let that market go (for a while) to avoid making a costly mistake.
i guess they could, but i would have thought theres credibility in owning the top end of the market. the local dealer over here also says the d800 is really well. but maybe you are right?
but i think canon would be silly if they thought like that. its the resin that car manufactures have a limited run sports car- to set their place in the market. i can't see canon just letting the D800e be the best camera on the market.
and they can sell these at a lot higher cost- i am not that cost driven - nor any of the guys i mentioned early. sure we like saving money, but the features of the camera to make life easier is more important. cameras are one the cheapest part of our kits- we didn't ask for it to be this way, but it makes it easy to have multiple bodies etc. the original 1ds cost me 15k nod (12k usd) and it paid for itself on one job. happy to pay this much again for a "niche" market version of a canon camera that can answer the d800.
i heard a while back there was 9000 professional photographers in the UK alone- not sure if this figure is right, but i wouldn't be surprised. even if these people didn't really need the megapixels- i guarantee they would not be able to help them selves if there was a higher megapixel camera available. i can see that even wedding photographers could do with more megapixels- to allow for cropping and different formats. pixel binning makes for better files as well when downsized.
This actually makes sense to me, although I've been skeptical about Canon's "need" to release a high megapixel full frame camera.
I'll go back to a prediction I make quite a while back – I can see Canon releasing a "5D HD" that offers a pixel density somewhere in the same neighborhood as the 7D (46 mp), perhaps a little less. Same body, same basic functionality (with a slower frame rate likely) just a new sensor and maybe a little faster processor.
It would give customers a choice, but keep their production costs down since many of the components could be shared by both bodies. Canon has see the D800 sales figures, so they know that high megapixels aren't in huge demand, but they probably also know there is a small subset of customers that will pay a premium for more resolution. Give them what they want, but keep the production costs down.
hi, im not sure where you get your viewpoint. i shoot advertising images and i do use a 5dmk3, but the files are almost always on the edge of usability. if there is cropping, or shadows pulled up(or sky recovered) the canon is terrible. the only reason i haven't changed systems is that i shoot with a very shallow dof and the canon has the best lenses for this.
I have tested the d800e and i have brought a sony a7r and in every test i have done with the cameras together the sony sensor absolutely eats the canon. i find the latitude of the nikon and sony cameras closer to my p65+ (but obvious less res) but even better with the darks getting pulled up.
i don't know about the amateur market, but a large promotion of the professional advertising market (not the editorial or sports) has moved to the nikon d800e from the canon and even a lot have dropped medium format for nikon. i could list a dozen photographers in the top of their fields in the world now shooting with nikon. and thats just out of the few advertising photographers i know personally.
im not saying the nikon is the best for usability- the canon has the best interface, lenses and AF, but the file itself is very disappointing. i say this from a lot of canon file experience (I've shot at least 400,000 files with the 5dmk3 in the last few years). the 5dmk3 is a bit of a love hate camera for me..
i really hope canon answers with a better file (latitude wise)- higher MP (which is badly needed for my market) so i can throw away slow, difficult medium format and only need one camera for everything i shoot.
More to come...
I'd hope so, because anything is more than the nothing we've seen so far...