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Theater, Concert and Event / Re: My first Ballet photography in my life.
« on: September 27, 2014, 12:43:14 PM »
I like the last photo (blue tint) the best!

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I've learned that the Sony A7r EVF performance seems to depend on what your pointing at. Not sure why, but there are times when it lags HORRENDOUSLY bad. Part of it is the EVF update speed is related to your chosen exposure...once you get down to large fractions of a second, the EVF lags at that rate. But even at higher frame rates, there are times when panning around when it seems to hit an object or texture or whatever, and that jerks on the lag, and it becomes very visible for a moment or two.

I know a lot of people are fans of EVFs because of what they can do. There is no question this thing can overload you with information about...everything. For me, though, information overload should very much be a secondary concern to high image quality, high frame rate, high resolution, and otherwise being non-intrusive to assisting you in what a viewfinder is designed for: Framing the shot.

I wonder if the low shutter speed issue will always exist. It is probably the single biggest issue...once you get down to 1/30th of a second or slower, it really has a major impact on the EVF frame rate. I got down to 1/4 second at one point...and WOW. I figured the camera would simulate exposure, but it actually seems to really do the exposure you've chosen, even for slow shutter speeds. It really kills the user experience.

Its weird, I've never actually noticed a single problem with the EVF on my X-E1.  It never seems laggy, I've never seen individual pixels, I've never felt overloaded with info or in any way felt hindered in framing a shot.  I had to go grab my camera just now to try out the 1/4s shutter thing.  It does get laggy at that speed but I never would have noticed if I hadn't just read your post. I can see the pixels if I concentrate on doing that but again, never would have noticed on my own.  Maybe there is too much info in some of the newer Sony cameras but I never really see any of the icons and numbers in my camera's EVF unless I need to reference them. I really don't think the majority of people see any of these things as problems or even see them at all. 

Have you tried the X-T1 by any chance?  Its about the nicest EVF out there and I wonder if it would make a difference to you or not.

Yep.

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thats great for the type of photography he shoots...but let me see him try to shoot a full wedding with that rig or a heavily scheduled fashion shoot or sports....

mirrorless is a neat technological development but i don't see it ever replacing entirely the convenience of looking through an OVF and being able to see and react quickly to your subject matter.

call me old school....

Aye! I'm playing with the A7r right now, and even though it has some cool features, even a relatively advanced EVF like this is no replacement for an OVF. You can feel the lag...it's not obviously apparent, this is a fast EVF, but it is still there. Movement also has a blurred appearance as you pan around, which is frustrating. The worst thing is the moire...MASSIVE moire an aliasing in the EVF, especially around things like blinds in windows or the deckboards of my deck. It's really bad.

The other thing about an EVF is you have that limit on detail. I can readily see the pixels in the A7r EVF. I can also tell that there is a limit on resolution. It's always been claimed by EVF advocates that the ground glass in an OVF limits resolving power. That may be true, however it doesn't limit it anywhere even remotely close to how limited EVFs are. The difference is massive. I can very clearly tell when my subjects are focused in the 5D III (much better than in the 7D even). I really have a tough time telling what's focused with the A7r EVF...because of that resolution limit.

Another vote from me for OVF. EVF has awful lag and appearance... Apparently, it doesn't bother many. EVF is OK for casual photography.

I've learned that the Sony A7r EVF performance seems to depend on what your pointing at. Not sure why, but there are times when it lags HORRENDOUSLY bad. Part of it is the EVF update speed is related to your chosen exposure...once you get down to large fractions of a second, the EVF lags at that rate. But even at higher frame rates, there are times when panning around when it seems to hit an object or texture or whatever, and that jerks on the lag, and it becomes very visible for a moment or two.

I know a lot of people are fans of EVFs because of what they can do. There is no question this thing can overload you with information about...everything. For me, though, information overload should very much be a secondary concern to high image quality, high frame rate, high resolution, and otherwise being non-intrusive to assisting you in what a viewfinder is designed for: Framing the shot.

I wonder if the low shutter speed issue will always exist. It is probably the single biggest issue...once you get down to 1/30th of a second or slower, it really has a major impact on the EVF frame rate. I got down to 1/4 second at one point...and WOW. I figured the camera would simulate exposure, but it actually seems to really do the exposure you've chosen, even for slow shutter speeds. It really kills the user experience.

I find focusing with the XE very convenient. If I want to focus manually it is amazing with split screen/peaking etc. When focusing automatically, when the focus point goes green, focus is done. Not sure why you said that. :)

Another thing: EVF tells me right after taking the photo, without looking at the lcd, if for any reason the photo is blurred. I love that….

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: September 27, 2014, 11:36:52 AM »
Canon fulfills my needs and I have full faith that it will address the issue of high MP and DR eventually. I bought Fuji XE2 for family and holidays because it is light, has EVF and looks kind of cool.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 26, 2014, 08:58:26 AM »
"Well, that's no problem.  Did you look at the photographs?"

When I look at photographs taken with the D800 and D810, I see a quality to shading, shadows and the way detail fades into those shadows that I very rarely if ever see in Canon images. It's something I really love. It often has nothing to do with shadow pushing...but it does have everything to do with DR.

Yeah, I look at a lot of photographs. One of the best examples is Marc Adamus' work...he has some more recent photos taken with the D800 that have this amazing quality of light and shadow to them.
Yes, but that's not because he uses D800, but instead Marc manually blends separate exposures in a lot of his work => most of the photos are actually HDR. His photos look very nice, but some of them are bit too unreal.
https://fstoppers.com/landscapes/surreal-landscape-marc-adamus-3957

Yes. Beautiful. Unreal. HDR. Could be easily replicated by Canon but perhaps easier with newer Nikons.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Says Higher Resolution Sensors Are Coming Soon
« on: September 26, 2014, 08:54:34 AM »
Out of curiosity, is it possible to put a nikon sensor on a canon camera?

Not possible. You will have two problems 1) the electronics are different between the sensor and camera 2) the software used by the camera depends on the kind of sensor it comes with.

You actually replied to that question?

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Yeah. Juza is a cool guy. :)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: A set of new Leica lenses for the Leica M.
« on: September 26, 2014, 03:40:48 AM »
Wow

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To me this means it is a matter of time before mirror less starts giving DSLR serious competition. Many who look down on mirror less will change their stand once their favorite company (Canon/Nikon) starts making them.
Also the distain to electronic viewfinders will go away. I work with Alexia and Red cameras on a daily basis and find the finders amazing. I also find my Fuji XE find AMAZING. I believe there are other cameras that have even better electronic finder.
Mirror less is here to stay and grow. Rather rapidly I think.

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Nice gesture!

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http://www.juzaphoto.com/article.php?l=en&t=from_reflex_to_mirrorless_sony_a5100

Around 6 years ago when I restarted photography after 15 years (film to digital) I found Juza on internet and learned a lot from his website.

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Lenses / Re: Wildlife lens setup
« on: September 19, 2014, 01:25:47 PM »
I would disagree with the use without IS. When you are shooting wildlife you are probably shooting fast enough to make IS void.

70-300mm L is a really nice lens. The 400 F5.6 is probably the best bang for buck. More important is the understanding of the animal you are shooting.

No no no no no! Noooooo. IS is so important for wildlife. Many many great wildlife activity and sightings happen in low light and IS is paramount in those situations…. Not all wildlife photos are hunting cheetahs! And it gets worse in ever green forests like India and Costa Rica…

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EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 01:11:17 PM »
Wow some people must have really high expectations from Matt Granger for him to be able to just pick up a camera he's never even seen before or even existed before that point and to then be handed it and given a short (a minute or two?) time to get a 100% hit rate in conditions he has has no control over? Well he didn't manage that so the only conclusion can be - that the camera is a dud? Because MG cannot miss. Ever. It's not even thinkable.  :P

If he's going to pick up a new camera, post pics online to "showcase quality" then he should make the pics worthy of such.

As it is, Matt Granger has posted pictures for click bait and to drive his views up. That's about all that you can say for the images posted.

He posted the pics for review and should have made sure they were ready to be reviewed. He didn't.

Matt Granger is just another click bait fool like Ken Rockwell.

I doubt any photographer I know who has been shooting Canon will get an out of focus photo with a new Canon camera on such a photo. Nope.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 01:09:08 PM »
Wow some people must have really high expectations from Matt Granger for him to be able to just pick up a camera he's never even seen before or even existed before that point and to then be handed it and given a short (a minute or two?) time to get a 100% hit rate in conditions he has has no control over? Well he didn't manage that so the only conclusion can be - that the camera is a dud? Because MG cannot miss. Ever. It's not even thinkable.  :P

If he's going to pick up a new camera, post pics online to "showcase quality" then he should make the pics worthy of such.

As it is, Matt Granger has posted pictures for click bait and to drive his views up. That's about all that you can say for the images posted.

He posted the pics for review and should have made sure they were ready to be reviewed. He didn't.

Matt Granger is just another click bait fool like Ken Rockwell.

I have never seen KR post any out of focus or blurred photo.

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EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 01:01:05 PM »
Why does it seem that the only satisfaction some will get is hearing that the 7Dii is a huge fail?

There was a whole 'language' pre-announcement about how it's not going to make the grade and now that it's official with some sample images, disbelief that it could actually deliver.

I'm stumped.
I can only guess that it's from negative people OR from those of us with 1D Xs wondering if the 7DII hoping that the 7DII really isn't this good!

You should sell your 1D X before the 7D II hits the market. You may loose thousands on it if you wait.

But seriously if you look at the past the one thing that Canon does very well is place products in their line. They will not let the 7D II be better than the 1D X or the 5D III especially in IQ.

Dude… How can crop be better than full frame in IQ? Think about it….

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