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I'd much prefer the 24-105mmL for way less, they often pop up for $650.  The longer focal length range makes up for the very tiny difference in MTF.  I have the 24-70 f/2.8 MK II.

The distortion in the 24-105 makes it much less useful than it could have been.

Also, if they discontinue the 24-105L it might even (temporarily) increase demand for it, meaning I could sell it for a bit more than I paid! Bonus!  ;)
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I'm interested in how that new Sigma is going to perform at the wide end. It could be the answer a lot of people are looking for.  ???

You might find that the release of Sigma's lens impacts the ability of you to sell the Canon one at the price you want...

Nope. Bought my 24-105L second hand for a very reasonable price. In Japan the 24-105L sells really well and for about ¥75,000 used, (which is more than what I paid). At the very least I'll get 95% money back. Cheaper than renting for the same period so I'd still be happy with that. The Sigma stuff is expensive over here for some reason. The 35mm went back up to ¥89,000 on amazon (¥99,000 in stores). Doubt the new Sigma 24-105 will be much different. The cheaper option will still be the Canon. People like cheaper.

The same was said about the Sigma 18-35 1.8 vs the 17-55 but I managed to sell my 17-55 for the price I wanted. People will pay for the stuff that is tried and tested and same brand. Brand loyalty is a big thing over here in Japan.

Everywhere! This also applies to rental business. I rent my gear out and for me buying an 'expensive' canon lens is 'cheaper' in long run as Canon gear will rent out, not off brand even if it may be better....

767
That tells me the 24-105 is not dead yet.
Despite all of the griping we've heard ever since the introduction of the 24-70/4, there has never been any indication from Canon that the 24-70/4 would replace the 24-105/4.  They are different lenses and it makes good sense to keep both in the product line.  Canon offers many similar products that overlap but don't replace each other.  I would sooner expect a version II of the popular 24-105/4 than its discontinuation.

yep

768
I am amongst the people who prefer the additional range.

And I just got a mail from Canon saying this kit is in addition to 24-105. That tells me the 24-105 is not dead yet.

769
Do cameras come with only one kit lens? I mean is it possible that 5d3 is available with either lens as kit? Or has the kit with 24-105 discontinued?
24-105 is a very useful range to me.

770
Lenses / Re: Hello Old Friend.
« on: October 29, 2013, 10:28:59 AM »
Nice story. :)

771
Thanks for the introduction.

772
I have been trying to gift my daughter the 1000D camera for a while now. She outright shows disinterest. She says she is very happy with her old point shoot camera and even the camera on her ipad. She is 16. She takes photos all the time and posts in face book, instagram etc.
She sees me buying top cameras all the time...

I am sure there are lots other like her.

That is exactly what is happening. More and more photos are being pushed online and on FB people are getting less and less concerned about the IQ. The photos have turned into record shots to be shared with everyone.

For any special occasion you will be invited with a caveat - "make sure to bring your camera along"

Disregard for quality will bite them back in the ass. In a few years (display upgrades), it will bite them back in the ass like knock off polaroid film made some family memories disapear.

Their loss. (as long as it doesn't bankrupt or misguide Canon).

"Quality" is so so subjective.

773
Canon General / Re: Consumer DSLRs "dead in 5 years"
« on: October 29, 2013, 02:52:29 AM »
DSLR-like ... looks like a DSLR ... operates like a DSLR ... handles like a DSLR ... only perceivable difference is an EVF instead of an OVF ... Olympus E-M5 and E-M1; Panasonic G3, G5, G6, GH2 and GH3; and Sony A7 and A7r.

So...the AF capabilities of all the cameras listed, in terms of speed and accuracy including tracking of moving subjects, are the equal of current dSLRs such as the 70D or 5DIII?  Or would one perceive a difference?

Frankly, I wouldn't know ... as I own none of those cameras, but have used the E-M5. The Olympus certainly is better at AF than the xxxD series cameras that I've handled. But don't pick one aspect and then use that to trash the mirrorless concept. Rather look at the future potential.

I too believe that looking at future potential is the key in this discussion. Surprising things are happening everyday including the amazing quality coming out of smaller sensors. Quality which is totally acceptable by general people. Auto focus of mirror less cameras will improve soon for sure. But I feel that even current auto focus is acceptable my many consumers...

774
EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Spec List Surfaces [CR1]
« on: October 29, 2013, 02:34:08 AM »
that would also negatively affect 6D, 5DIII and 1dX sales.

How?


775
I have been trying to gift my daughter the 1000D camera for a while now. She outright shows disinterest. She says she is very happy with her old point shoot camera and even the camera on her ipad. She is 16. She takes photos all the time and posts in face book, instagram etc.
She sees me buying top cameras all the time...

I am sure there are lots other like her.

776
Canon General / Re: Consumer DSLRs "dead in 5 years"
« on: October 28, 2013, 02:06:09 AM »
We can resent change all we want but there is definitely some truth in the article. Change IS happening, what exactly happens over the next few years is not clear.
But yes with phone cameras becoming better, point and shoot will get a big hit.




777
Pricewatch Deals / Re: Sigma 24-105 f/4 DG OS Gets its Price
« on: October 25, 2013, 10:38:29 AM »
Lots of trash talk going on here...

Sigma is facing a few problems with this lens, but so far I think they made the right decisions:

1) The EF 24-105's price is low, when purchased as a kit or as a used kit lens.
2) The EF 24-105's IQ is quite good.

Answers:

1) The street price of this lens will soon be low enough to challenge the Canon.
2) Well, we will see  ;D

One thing to keep in mind:
Neither Sony nor Nikon offer lenses like this, so there might be a bigger market on the dark side.

"trash talk" Huh?

778
Not releasing anything interesting except the 70D could have something to do with it.
Yep. When your competitors are experimenting with new models and new lines, and all you're doing is giving minor updates to your existing stuff, you lose market share. Ask Apple.

Did you not read what neuroanatomist said above?  Canon's competitors, who supposedly have superiorproducts, are having a worse time of it!

Where does he say that?

779
Time to innovate further.

780
Software & Accessories / Re: Raw processing on iPad/tablet
« on: October 25, 2013, 06:49:43 AM »
I find anything less than 13" inappropriate for editing. Even while traveling. 13" just about lets one see the picture properly to pick the best of a burst.
I have the current air and must warn you that photos do not look half as good on it as they do on the imac. Am unsure if that has something to do with the quality of mac air screen.

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