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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:17:13 PM »
This reminds me of what happened when the 60D was announced. 50D owners were hoping for an upgrade and instead Canon put out a more consumerish 60D thus making the logical upgrade to the 50D the vastly more expensive 7D. This seems to be what Canon is doing here where instead of a 5D mark II or FF 7D competitor at a similar price, they have restricted some pro features and added wifi & gps to bring it to more of a rebel upgrade than pro model. Thus 5D mark II owners are forced to upgrade to the vastly more expensive 5D mark III.

Yes, does seem like deja vu

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Here are 100% crops taken with both the Nikon D600 and Canon 6D using 135mm & 85mm portrait lenses @ f3.2
Hmm, Nikon looks crisper and cleaner to my eye between these two images

It's definitely sharper, but a tad less flattering too - just look at the tiny blonde hairs at the bridge of the nose and above the upper lip too, sort of reminiscent of initial criticisms of the D800

Different tastes, I guess.  I prefer seeing those tiny hairs rather than the smudgy look of the Canon image because when doing macro work, I want to see those tiny hairs on an insect.  I can always smooth out skin in PP, but for when I want the detail it needs to be there first place since I can't manufacture it in PP.  Actually the Canon images looks like a rather amateurish PP job like I used to do when first learning photoshop  ;) Just my $.02

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Here are 100% crops taken with both the Nikon D600 and Canon 6D using 135mm & 85mm portrait lenses @ f3.2
Hmm, Nikon looks crisper and cleaner to my eye between these two images

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 01:59:57 AM »
I said in an earlier post that is very possible that canon will discontinue the 7D series due to the new 6D FF camera.

With those specs i really believe that we will see a 7D2 in the near future ( 1 or 2 Q 2013).
I'm betting not.  Why would they have gone to all the trouble with the firmware upgrade, and then fix that upgrade's bug if they were just going to replace it with a 7D2 soon?  No, I think we will be waiting quite a while for that refresh to happen  :(.  The only real short-coming the 7D has is the sensor and I just have a feeling that Canon is really struggling in it's R&D for a better sensor for its top of the line crop body and they bought themselves more time with the firmware upgrade.

Kinda of a big shortcoming, don'tcha think? I agree it might be a while though. Too bad they can buy sensors from sony too. Sony sensor in an awesome canon body = the perfect camera.
Yup, real BIG shortcoming.  And as long as Canon won't admit that Sony has the best sensor technology right now and swallow their pride and just starting buying from Sony, we all lose.  I love Canon glass + I think I would really like the D600 = baaad place to be  :P

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EOS Bodies / Re: Adorama is Taking Pre-Orders for EOS 6D
« on: September 17, 2012, 01:48:22 AM »
Well, to be fair, crApple has played the same Canon game ("pay more for less") and it hasn't stopped the bandwagoneering, carpetbagging stock market analysts to continue to pump&dump their shares in anticipation of blockbuster sales numbers. Unfortunately for Canon, the consumers in this gadget segment aren't as tech-ignorant.
Yes, the similarities between Canon and Apple are not lost on me either.  I equate the beauty of Mac machines with the beauty of L lens, and unfortunately both companies seem to have developed an unwarranted sense of infallability.  And doubly unfortunate I happen to be both a Mac and Canon user  ;).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 01:42:41 AM »
I said in an earlier post that is very possible that canon will discontinue the 7D series due to the new 6D FF camera.

With those specs i really believe that we will see a 7D2 in the near future ( 1 or 2 Q 2013).
I'm betting not.  Why would they have gone to all the trouble with the firmware upgrade, and then fix that upgrade's bug if they were just going to replace it with a 7D2 soon?  No, I think we will be waiting quite a while for that refresh to happen  :(.  The only real short-coming the 7D has is the sensor and I just have a feeling that Canon is really struggling in it's R&D for a better sensor for its top of the line crop body and they bought themselves more time with the firmware upgrade.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 12:08:24 AM »
AFMA?
Hmmm, no mention of AFMA in the specs...yet another (canon)ball dropped  ???

I highly doubt they will add AFMA because it seems they are clearing marketing it towards the consumer crowd. 

To them the touchy screen is more important that this A. F. M. A. thingy.  Who needs AFMA when you could have a touchy screen?
Sadly, I think this is exactly the thinking involved, both on Canon's part and the market they are aiming this at.  I've been down the 60D route without AFMA and found that so frustrating I ended up picking up a used 7D.  Buying used lenses that are not local sales where you can try them out are just not wise without AFMA.  Oh well, I may as well stop ranting...I'm not buying a 6D, so it's time for me to "let go"  :P

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:20:20 PM »
AFMA?
Hmmm, no mention of AFMA in the specs...yet another (canon)ball dropped  ???

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:15:19 PM »
Well this pretty much wraps it up for me.  If I'm going FF, it will be the D600.  My other option is to hope they don't drop the ball as badly as this when then release a 7D replacement....if a new 7D has reduced noise, I will upgrade then and just stick with a crop camera.  I hope this really, really flops and Canon finally wakes up.
Diane

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Lighting / Re: Direct Flash - How to make it useful?
« on: September 15, 2012, 11:49:10 PM »
I am so trying this. Genius. Someone invite me to a party where the guests have a sense of humor. I do believe the pictures will come out well because at the right party people will be smiling at the rig they are facing.
jonathan7007

I've got to try this too...it's one of those "why didn't I think of that?" head-slaps.
Diane

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 06:36:36 PM »
And their marketing is very clever and goes to any lengths to make you buy the most expensive stuff by building annoyances into intermediary products. Meanwhile Nikon seems to produce more "complete" products, that's at least true for the d7000 and d600.
Very well articulated indeed.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 04:30:03 PM »
I do apologize, I was not attacking you.
Thank you, accepted  :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 03:52:42 PM »
Are your photographic skills so great that you are limited by the current camera technology?

Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content.

Well, I for one am not a genius at getting proper exposure every time and I am just very, very weary of fixing the noise that I get with my 60D and 7D sensors.  So, given I'm not going to grow any more brain cells, I need all the technological help I can get.

I think there is a misconception with some people's comments, for me, I want bang for my buck and that's the stem of my complaints with these specs on the Canon 6D are about. The Nikon D600 is thus far trumping it and then some. But I think that there must be an understanding, the tech itself DOES NOT make you a great photographer, it is the skill of the hands the camera is in. I'm sorry to say that if you need "all the technological help" you can get. Then an advanced piece of equipment is not for you. Rebel is where you should stay until you're ready and confident to take the next leap. I have NEVER, NEVER used the Auto setting on my camera, as a matter of fact, I despise Auto even on point and shoots. I learned on film and back then I didn't have the conveniences of digital  which forced me to become a better photographer.  However minimal the specs are on the Canon 6D it will be full frame which in itself is a different animal. Good luck.

Wow, that was rather scathing.  All I am saying is that a better sensor is going to give me better image quality.  I was not saying it was going to help me with composition or artistry.  And quite frankly, I don't think the sensor in either the 60D or 7D is all that great compared to what Sony is making for Nikon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 03:22:50 PM »
Are your photographic skills so great that you are limited by the current camera technology?

Come on people, it not the technology that makes a great images, it's the content.

Well, I for one am not a genius at getting proper exposure every time and I am just very, very weary of fixing the noise that I get with my 60D and 7D sensors.  So, given I'm not going to grow any more brain cells, I need all the technological help I can get.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 11:11:14 AM »
Unless the price is right, It will flop compared to nikon.
Yup!

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