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EOS Bodies / Re: Announcement Talk Begins
« on: January 03, 2014, 12:01:37 PM »
I'm hoping we get some juicy news on the upcoming new Rebel camera.  I'm not holding my breath, but I think this year they might BeDazzle the neck strap.

The screen is a 1:1 screen shot, non- developed, adobe bridge 100% raw file preview. Reference 24-105.

So, you're allowed to litter any time other than 8:30 - 10:00 on Mondays?

How about a handheld shot indoors in a dark room at 300mm and f/5.6 (with the 70-300L), for .8 seconds at ISO 10,000?  Is that not low light?  If a 5D3 can autofocus in that amount of light, I'll go buy 10 of them tomorrow...

You can handhold at 300mm for .8 seconds?  I guess I don't have a steady grip.

Not to get in yet another one of your pissing matches, but I do find the low light centerpoint to be useful when shooting in a dark room with off-camera flash.

It's a sad day when the biggest new of an upcoming camera is that you're changing its name.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 70D or Refurb MK II?
« on: December 17, 2013, 02:37:56 PM »
What you should do is go to a camera shop and hold both in your hands with your lenses. Once you see the massive viewfinder on FF, it might sway you.

I was amazed at how much of an impact this had when I went to FF from a Rebel.

I know what my Rebel can and can't do, but there are times when I want the crop and am willing to sacrifice a bit of IQ.  The images are fine, I manage with the small plastic body and missing buttons, but using the viewfinder drives me crazy.

Two last questions - Do many find 35mm wide enough most of the time and would adding a 50 be redundant?


Both those questions are entirely subjective.  Though I think many would agree 35 isn't very wide.

Thanks and given that my lenses are spectacular would my non sports photography (flowers, family, travel, landscape, architecture, etc.) have that "holy ****** ****" look that I don't quite get with the T1i?  I think I'm going to take a deep breath and order the 6D.

If by holy S___ look you mean, less noise at high ISO, then sure, it'll get that for you.  Everything else is technique and post processing.

. I wish all the manufacturers would go with DNG natively in camera and get away from the proprietary nonsense.
The issue is that Major camera makers may want to add new camera features and do not want innovations limited by what Adobe allows in DNG.   Its a philosophy that lets Canon control its own destiny and not be limited by a committee or have to give trade secrets to a committee and lose a competitive advantage.  Canon is very secretive.

I'd be curious to know when/what was the last addition that Canon made that wouldn't be supported by DNG.

I have a (probably dumb) question. If everytime a new camera comes out and we need a new version of LR to utilize the RAW files, can we convert those files to DNG first and run the DNG file in a previous version of LR?

Is that why the Adobe DNG converter is free?? So you can do that?
When I first got my 5d3 in March 2012, I was running LR3 which never got support for 5d3 files. I upgraded my computer in Oct 2012 to Win7, 64bit which allowed me to run LR4 which could natively read the 5d3 files. So, for six months, I ingested the CR2 files, used the free convertor and processed my images in LR3.

Now I just import CR2's and bypass the DNG conversion process. Either way, I don't notice an image difference and has already been said, there are tons of threads on DNG vs RAW. I don't convert them as it adds a step to my workflow but I never had an issue with DNG's. I wish all the manufacturers would go with DNG natively in camera and get away from the proprietary nonsense.

I have not looked at the conversion process.  However, if lightroom can't read your cr2 files how does the converter read them,correctly.  Does the converter get upgraded sooner?

Yes, they constantly upgrade the DNG converter to read new formats and convert them to a DNG format that doesn't change - hence is readable by any program that reads DNG.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III & Third Party Batteries
« on: December 12, 2013, 12:47:22 PM »
Next step for Canon is to make sure that the SD/CF card is manufactured by Canon. After all the other brands can damage the camera.

I was just going to say that.  What if Canon bought out Lexar and made it so only their cards worked.  Certainly people would have a problem with that?

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III & Third Party Batteries
« on: December 12, 2013, 12:46:22 PM »
If the movie/music companies, (aka: the most greedy/sleazy entities on the planet) had simply made their movies/music more affordable from the beginning, no one would have wanted to go to all the trouble to copy or download inferior music files to get around the high cost. 

As much as I’d like to bash the record companies, I’m going to have to disagree.  People steal music because it’s free and easy.  People steal crap music that they’ll hardly listen to, because they can.  People steal music that they’ll hardly listen to, because like all their specialty lenses camera components that they hardly use, people get into collecting useless crap because they want to have a big collection they can tell people about.  People can definitely afford to buy the songs that they really enjoy listening to, but they don’t, because people don’t see it as stealing from these big bad record companies.

Cost doesn’t have much to do with it.  I see kids at Starbucks getting $5 coffees, on iPhones with unlimited data plans, driving fancy cars that they can afford to fill at $4 a gallon.  They can afford a $15 album or $1 song if they wanted, but why pay when you can just steal it for free.  Sorry to digress, but lets compare apples to apples.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III & Third Party Batteries
« on: December 12, 2013, 12:35:30 PM »
IMO, it's not up to Canon keep the third party guys happy.

Agreed, it’s not, but this isn’t about keeping the third party guys happy, it’s about spending dollars researching (futile) ways to force them out of the game.  You could write up a laundry list of firm ware fixes that people would like to see, but when they finally getting around to pushing out a release what’s in it?  A speedbump for third party battery manufactures.

The DNG contains almost all the same information as RAW.  There are few camera specific things, like Nikon's Active D Lighting, that aren’t duplicated in DNG, but that doesn’t matter if you’re using PS or LR anyway.   I used the DNG converter for a year or two when I was using an old version of Photoshop and it worked fine, just required an extra step to batch convert my files after DL-ing from the card.

What I don’t get is, why they have to revise the RAW files with every camera model.  It’s my understanding that they’re ‘improving’ the codec, but is that really necessary with every camera model?  What can you improve in the Codec?  You can make the files smaller, and/or compressed faster.  But DNG continue to be slighter smaller than RAW files.  What gives?

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III & Third Party Batteries
« on: December 12, 2013, 11:31:33 AM »
They do have a valid point about protecting their customers from poor quality counterfeits.  There's a story going round in cycling world this week about Specialized pulling up a bike shop called Cafe Roubaix, Roubaix being a name used by Specialized.  One of the issues Specialized has had to deal with was when they had a bike returned after it snapped causing significant injuries to the rider, only to find that the bike itself was a counterfeit.  Since then they've paid a law firm to track down counterfeiters - the Cafe Roubaix owner got caught up in the cross fire a bit.  As long as Canon continues to allow you to use a 3rd party battery, after clicking 'OK' to continue I'm fine with it.  They're warning you that your camera might get fried - but leaving it up to you to make the decision.  I still use a 3rd party battery as a spare, but use the original Canon as my primary battery.

There’s a big difference between third party components that are labeled as such, and plain out selling counterfeit wares.  Especially when your counterfeit is replacing an expensive process like carbon fiber manufacturing with a cheaper and inferior process, and when that has safety concerns.  Lithium Ion battery technology isn’t exactly rocket science, Canon just puts an over-inflated premium on theirs to milk some more money out of consumers.  Third party component manufacturing is a legitimate business model and helps keep manufactures honest (less dis-honest?).  If the quality of the product manufacturers components truly are better,  or the price is marginally more, people will buy them because it gives us a warm fuzzy feeling to see that name brand printed on the side.  You only need these kind of tactics when you’re trying to force people to buy your overpriced product.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 7D Mark II Spec List Surfaces [CR1]
« on: October 31, 2013, 04:41:49 PM »
Perhaps you imagine that the majority of press photographers spend their lives jetting around the world, dodging bullets, covering Olympics or tracking down rare species in the jungle.

Don't forget the ladies.  Lots, and lots, of lay-dees.

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