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Hi Gino,

I tend to agree with private, and would also recommend hiring two different people. I have worked with a ton of videographers and those who specialize in video tend to produce better videos (from my experience). Similarly, we shoot a ton of weddings and are often asked if we can also do video. My answer is always the same, we have the equipment for it, but until we can provide a top-notch product, I will not be including video as one of our options. I think some simply see the dollar signs and jump into both fields because they can, which I find to be unfortunate. All of that being said, however, St. Paul may have someone who can do both, and do them well.

I would also reflect what Private said about the amount of time needed. Though I'm sure you are aware of the amount of time it takes, the phrasing could potentially be a turn off for the photographer/videographer, but she can ask for 5-6 hours of coverage without stepping on toes.

Regarding the meeting, I have had 64 meetings with potential wedding clients and have booked 61 of them. I love meetings. Often times, the folks I am meeting with will not have any questions for me, which is okay. I will then ask them more about their day and help bounce possible ideas necessary to make their day spectacular. Some of the things she may want to consider;

Is she having a first glance?
Is she having a 'grand exit'? if so, what time?
Would she rather have one or two photographers?
Will she receive a print release? What size can she print?
How many photos will they edit for her?
Can she view any FULL galleries?
If she does have to order prints over a certain size through them, how much are they?
How long until she receives her images back?
How are their reviews from TheKnot, Wedding Wire, Facebook, etc?
What gear will they shoot with?
Is this their full time occupation?

For videos and photos alike, I would recommend she take the time to watch a ton of videos from a particular company, if she likes their style then go with them. Similarly, with photos, look into their full galleries and look to see if she likes the style and coverage of their images.

Lastly, I fly around for weddings and Tulsa to St. Paul is less than a $500 fare when I checked a random date in March... there is always the option to fly someone in as well.  :)


Lighting / Re: How to Extend Flash Performance (Life on Site)
« on: September 19, 2014, 11:15:36 AM »
I found it! Wow, only slightly embarrassing.  ;D

Thank you all! Private, thank you very much for the diagram.  :)


Lighting / Re: How to Extend Flash Performance (Life on Site)
« on: September 19, 2014, 01:14:59 AM »
Thank you all!!!

I did an immense amount of research on each product suggested and believe the best option for me would be 2 Einsteins + VML's as well as 3 Godox pb960's.

Now for the lighting newb question;

I noticed the cable for the Godox system ends in a goofy, little, flat, 3 opening piece which I cannot seem to figure out how in the heck it would fit onto the 600Ex.

Am I missing something, or is it coming with the wrong cable?

I keep looking for a different one, but that goofy flat thing keeps popping up.

Thank you all again!

Photography Technique / Re: Square or not?
« on: September 17, 2014, 09:47:33 PM »
...the majority of the people are saying square. Do you want to make your art according to what the majority would do?

This was my take on the subject.

If you are wanting to use the image to please others, (selling the image), I would consider square to potentially sell more.

If you are keeping it as a photo for your own personal gallery, (desktop background, etc.) then whatever you want.

For my taste, I would square it up. I rarely ever intentionally do an edit by going against what I think is right. Though I want more gigs in life, I have to stay true to myself so as to not get lost in the business stand point. With that, however  you feel is the right answer.

Since you posted the square one first, and it looked great to my, square is where I think it should be.


Good ol' Tulsa, Oklahoma!!! Lived in Stillwater, OK for 5 years during undergrad/grad school, home of the OkState Cowboys!!!


Lighting / Re: How to Extend Flash Performance (Life on Site)
« on: September 08, 2014, 12:03:12 AM »
Wow! Thank you for opening my eyes on this market Private!

I did a little more digging after looking into the CP-E4 and as hard as we use the flashes, I think I'll probably go with a Quantum, but that type of device was exactly what I was looking for.

Thank you again!

Lighting / How to Extend Flash Performance (Life on Site)
« on: September 07, 2014, 10:58:33 PM »
Hello fellow CR folks!

I have been wondering if there is any way to extend the life of my flash while I'm at an event.

The main issue is during the reception. I am always very selective in the shots I take, but when I fire the flash, I expect it go. As the night goes on, the flash begins to hate me more and more. Primary flash heads are the 600EX-RT's if that makes any difference at all.

Thank you for any advice you have.


Lenses / Re: 400 f/2.8L II IS: Took the plunge...
« on: August 26, 2014, 09:58:28 PM »
First of all, I took by the title of your post that you dropped your 400L in the water.

Secondly, congratulations! What a great lens! I look forward to viewing pictures.


I am burning a client DVD now actually. The DVDs we send out come in a DVD case with custom printing and print release adhered directly to the disk with a business card on the inside and boutique packaging on the outside. Clients love them, though we have had two, that I know of, who had no way of reading the disk in which case, I sent them a flash drive.

My recommendation, as someone who deals with hundreds of DVDs a year, would be thumb drives.  :D

If you can get the personalized ones, awesome, but if it needs to be a generic, so be it. If the packaging is great, they will love having something to put their hands on.


My wife and my sole income is from our photography business, which we jumped into full time this January. It can definitely happen and is, in my humble opinion, the best job in the world. In our past lives, my wife was a CPA and I was a student at the College of Veterinary Science at Oklahoma State in Stillwater, OK. Now we get to see the kids every day, and our equipment is tax deductible, yay!


Lenses / Re: 85mm f1/2L II and event photography?
« on: August 21, 2014, 05:33:07 PM »
The 85L is a beast at events. I have always leaned toward the 70-200 2.8L ii or event the 100L, but the 85L has yet to disappoint me. I dislocated a rib pretty badly and shot a wedding a few days later this June, since I wasn't able to move much we added a third photographer to their package. During the processional/ceremony/reception, I shot the 85L figuring that it may or may not focus, but I was playing backup to the backup so I thought I would give it a whirl. The 85L was outstanding and definitely the best choice due to the low lighting situation we were facing. Our setup was essentially;

85L on 5Diii
70-200 2.8L ii on 5Diii
100L on 5Dii

We all had a Canon 600ex-rt for fill lighting, but the winner was the 85L, typically shot ~2.0.

I hope that helps!

PS, I just thought of another wedding where we did the same setup only it was a daytime wedding. The 85 and big tele were neck and neck for the best shots at the event.

Lenses / Re: Canon EF 1200mm f/5.6L For Sale
« on: August 16, 2014, 11:28:57 PM »
I don't know about this one y'all. There are no reviews yet...  ::)

Here is one I put together to showcase some of our maternity work; I also utilized Animoto.


Wedding Photography / Re: Post Your Best Wedding Photos
« on: August 08, 2014, 08:00:39 PM »
Thank you, Ian!

No worries on the misunderstanding. Having read a great many of your posts in the past, I can tell that you're one heck of a guy so I never took the misunderstanding out of context. We all share this fine forum.


Wedding Photography / Post Your Best Wedding Photos
« on: August 08, 2014, 06:29:06 PM »
Let's kick things off with some of our best and favorite wedding pics we've taken!

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