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EOS Bodies / Re: Which Body follows next?

« on: March 03, 2012, 07:10:32 PM »

Canon needs a new model to reinvigorate the Holiday sales at the end of this year.

The most likely candidate is the 70D. Announcement at the of August.

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EOS Bodies / Re: So who thinks there will be a 7D Mk. II now?

« on: March 01, 2012, 09:04:44 PM »

So does the 7D line live on or just get replaced by the 70D?

Depends on the 5DIII price that will be announced tonight.

If it's $3500, then yes, the 7D line will live on a happy life for a couple more years.

But if the 5DIII is announced at $2699 tonight (which is my bet), then expect the 70D to replace the 7D this fall as the top-of-the-line 1.6x model - with 22mp, 19 AF points (or more), 6fps, and 100% viewfinder.

All that for $1299. Let's see who will miss the 7D then.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??

« on: February 29, 2012, 01:34:46 PM »

Yeah... It is discontinued.

Seriously... if the 5D MKIII has improved AF, weather sealing and FPS, the only difference for a 7D upgrade becomes crop sensor, and at that point... why bother.

Exactly.

Only problem is the 5DIII's crazy rumored price.
At $3500, the 5DIII can hardly be a merger of the 7D and 5D lines.

But if the 5dIII price turns out to be closer to the 5DII intro price ($2699), then it's quite certain that the 7D line will be discontinued.

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* The Next 5D on March 2, 2012 [CR3]

« on: February 28, 2012, 02:14:46 PM »

There is no "one size fits all" in the end. The Nikonians themselves are divided over the best resolution for the D800(E).

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I realize that studio photographers (and maybe wild life ones) would like to see a camera with the biggest MP they could possibly get. One has to ask what percentage of Canon's potential sales does this segment make. If the bread and butter is somewhere else, that's what Canon would naturally focus on.

What a sensible post. Agree 100%.

It should be quite clear by now that there is no "one size fits all" when it comes to these high-end cameras.
So, by trying to hit a sweet spot, Canon and Nikon will inevitably anger a certain number of users.

I also think that the rumored specs of the 5DIII are fantastic and I truly hope that the rumored $3500 price is the kit price, not the body-only price.
With these specs and the right price, I have no doubts that the 5DIII will be another great success for Canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: What is the latest for the 7Dmkii/70D?

« on: February 27, 2012, 10:19:43 PM »

I have a very strong feeling that we won’t see a 7DII.

Canon will keep selling the 7D at its current reduced price till the end of the summer.
Then the 70D will be announced and the 7D will be discontinued by the end of the year.

The 70D will have to compete with the D7000 and the NEX-7 (and their successors), so it will have to be spec’d and priced very competitively.
Thus, the 70D will inherit many of the advanced 7D features (19-point AF system, 100% viewfinder, etc.).
Some of the speed and ruggedness of the 7D will be lost, though.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III/X Information [CR1]

« on: February 15, 2012, 10:37:52 PM »

http://photos.imageevent.com/sipphoto/samplepictures/Pixel%20density%20test%20results.jpg

Sorry but this is an apples vs oranges comparison.

Due to higher production volumes and economies of scale, the small sensors in digicams and cell phones are made on newer and more advanced technologies than the larger sensors in DSLRs.

So, it’s not the small pixel size that makes image quality better but the newer, more advanced tech used in the small sensors.

For the same technology, the house wall analogy applies: a larger number of rooms leads to increased wall area and decreased living space (for any given area).

And no, no microlens magic can (fully) compensate for loss of active area on a sensor.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Guinea Pig

« on: February 15, 2012, 03:14:49 PM »

Here's my thoughts on the current situation, especially with the rumour of no 7Dmk2

'Guinea Pig' is a bit too strong of an expression but overall your point is valid, IMO.

Ever since the 7D was released, it's been obvious that the 7D 'platform' will be shared with a FF model.
From that perspective, the 7D was/is the testbed for this shared 'platform'.

This bodes very well for future 5DIII/X buyers, since they will be getting a camera that's been in field testing for two-three years .

I think Canon originally thought that the 7D and its FF brother will happily coexist together.
The way things are going, though, 7D might just get a FF replacement instead of a FF brother.

The Nikon's D7000 and Sony's Nex-7 lowered too much the price of the 'enthusiast' models.

To be competitive with these models, Canon needs to lower the price of the 7DII or beef-up the the specs of the 70D.

The first option is not good for business.
But if Canon beefs up the specs of the 70D, then the 70D will kill 7DII sales - just like the D7000 killed the D300s sales.

So, the rumor that there will be no 7DII makes quite a lot of sense actually.

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Lenses / Re: The future of the EF-s 17-55 f/2.8 IS USM

« on: February 11, 2012, 06:55:46 PM »

I am curious what you think.

As others have said, let's see what Canon does with the 1.6x line.

I have a strong feeling that there won't be a 7DII.

The 7D is fantastic but it seems to me that Canon expected to sell it at a higher price.
Since this is not happening, I think we'll see the 70D going back to being the top-of-the-line 1.6x model.

In this scenario, there will be no need for a mark-II of the 17-55 lens.
The current lens is already good enough and also expensive enough.

Btw, no worries about the specs of 70D.
It will be spec'd more or less like the 7D but will likely have a smaller/lighter body, so that pros don't buy it instead of the 5DIII  .

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Sighting?

« on: January 23, 2012, 04:13:50 PM »

The 5DIII is coming, woohoo!!!

Finally a real leak on this forum.

The 5DIII and 7DII will be sister cameras, as Canon has always intended.
My guess is 24mp/6fps on the 5DIII and 18mp/8fps on the 7DII.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]

« on: December 31, 2011, 03:16:47 AM »

just up the 7D mk2's FPS and AF plus possible use different ASPC sensors with the 70D upping megapixels and the 7D mk2 ISO performance.

+1.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]

« on: December 31, 2011, 03:08:35 AM »

The best APS-H body is far better than the best APS-C.

Right. And costs far more than the best APS-C body.

So, if Canon puts an APS-H sensor in the 7DII, is it reasonable to expect that the 7DII will keep the 7D price .

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EOS Bodies / Re: Earthshatteringly Disappointed With 7D

« on: December 09, 2011, 12:03:43 PM »

I am beginning to come to the conclusion that this camera isn't for me...

I had the exact same experience as yours ... and my 7D was returned to the retailer within the two-weeks return period.
This is not a camera for someone who cares about image quality.

Haven't read all posts on this thread but I'm sure you got a lot of advise on how your improve your technique, how the 7D requires more careful post-processing, etc..

My advise is that you should just return your camera, as you'll never be happy with the results.
Most likely the 5DII will give you the results you expect. Good luck.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D800 Outed?

« on: November 20, 2011, 12:05:40 PM »

Not sure where Nikon is going with that.
36MP is spectacular on paper but seems impractical for event photogs (arguably the main target market of this camera).
The slow frame rate does not help either.
OTOH, competition is good, so go Nikon  .

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Canon General / Re: Is anyone awake in Canon HQ?

« on: November 12, 2011, 01:23:39 AM »

I mean why would you buy a 5D Mark2 that has only 21MP for over $2000 when the A77 can be had for almost half price. Save the "pixel quality" and "sensor noise" arguments for the summer BBQ parties.

I am very thankful to Sony for the the A77/Nex-7.
They pretty much ended the megapixel war - in the sense that it's no longer a good business model to charge a premium for megapixels.
 
Thus, Canon can focus on image quality, not megapixels.

Megapixels are cheap but good image quality would still command a premium. 
The A77/Nex-7 only reinforce the idea that megapixels are for consumers (and therefore are cheap ).

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5Diii vs 7Dii (FF vs APS-C)

« on: October 29, 2011, 10:34:34 PM »

But then again, there is a lot of guesstimating here on my part and this is far from a scientific market analysis that people pay thousands upon thousands of dollars for.

I don't have any formal data either. For the past 1-2 months, though, I've been following the best selling DSLRs on Amazon - and I tend to agree with your assessments.

Overall, my impression is that the 5DII is indeed continuing to sell extremely well (considering its price point).
The 7D has lost steam and the 60D is definitely not selling well for a camera of its class.

Canon just split the xxD line into 7D and 60D but in the next product cycle there will be another reshuffling, IMO.
Can't predict what Canon will do but I think it's too early to kill off the premium 1.6x models just yet.
Just the opposite - both the 70D and 7DII will likely go upmarket, IMO.