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Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: Ring Lights
« on: February 11, 2013, 02:46:05 PM »

Again, thank you.

I looked at the link and the links from there, among the video.

Hmmm...  I love the look you have on this shot. The other ones posted further down are great too, but I see that they cast shaddows (not that that in itself is wrong when going for that).. Why would one use a ring flach instead of a beaty dish (in studio). My impression is that you can get the same effect with a deep beauty dish, but also because of the deepness and the curve of it eliminates the shaddows behind the subject much more? Or are these really two different things for different looks? Is the main benefit of the ringflash that you can have the lens through the light, thus giving other angles of light?

Please forgive me my ignorance.

Your are not quite right, the difference between mine and the ones with shadows is the proximity of the background, a ringlight will make a shadow all around the subject unless the background is far enough away to fall into dark, it still makes the shadow you just can't see it, which isn't difficult with shoe mount flash powered lights. Look at the shadows in agierke's first shot, the head is much closer to the background so the shadow is smaller, his hands further away so the shadows much bigger, mine the background is so far away the huge shadow just merges with the underexposed background.

You can use a ringlight like a beauty dish, just take it off axis, but you can't use a beautydish like a ringlight, you can never get it 100% on axis. All lights make shadows, the angle they are to the subject is what gives us the three dimensional impression. Now the next important thing is falloff, my example has very pronounced falloff, that is the luminosity of the cheek and neck are very different, the light is so close to the subject that there is a difference in illumination. In agierke's third shot the subject is far enough away from the lightsource that the falloff doesn't come into the equation, she is evenly illuminated.

They are both very distinctive ringlight "look" shots, but quite different.

If you can only afford to get a ringlight or a beautydish, get a beautydish, they are more versatile. They can't do a true ringlight look, but they are much more efficient than a ringlight attachment and it won't take you long to realise power is king. The ONLY benefit of the ringlight is your ability to shoot through the circle of light, like I said in my first post, once you get bored of the "rinlight look" the true advantage of the ringlight attaxhments is on axis contrast control, fill.

Thanks a lot for your detailed answer. I think I might get both and experiment :)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Argus 1.8 Billion Pixels
« on: February 11, 2013, 07:04:56 AM »
Did you guys happen to see that Sports Illustrated Giga Pan picture from the Superbowl?

Scary...


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130204/super-bowl-xlvii-gigapan/#

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Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: Ring Lights
« on: February 11, 2013, 07:01:42 AM »
This link might help.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/10/ray-flash-vs-orbis-vs-alienbees-abr800.html

Small flash style accessories really do lack the power to do very much, though they can be fun. One thing they are very good for is controlling contrast by filling shadows on axis, once you have done the narrow dof thing then that really is their best use.

Here is an example of the narrow dof on axis "look", done with one of the cheap $200 options (I forget which!).

Again, thank you.

I looked at the link and the links from there, among the video.

Hmmm...  I love the look you have on this shot. The other ones posted further down are great too, but I see that they cast shaddows (not that that in itself is wrong when going for that).. Why would one use a ring flach instead of a beaty dish (in studio). My impression is that you can get the same effect with a deep beauty dish, but also because of the deepness and the curve of it eliminates the shaddows behind the subject much more? Or are these really two different things for different looks? Is the main benefit of the ringflash that you can have the lens through the light, thus giving other angles of light?

Please forgive me my ignorance.

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Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: Ring Lights
« on: February 10, 2013, 06:19:23 PM »
This link might help.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/10/ray-flash-vs-orbis-vs-alienbees-abr800.html

Small flash style accessories really do lack the power to do very much, though they can be fun. One thing they are very good for is controlling contrast by filling shadows on axis, once you have done the narrow dof thing then that really is their best use.

Here is an example of the narrow dof on axis "look", done with one of the cheap $200 options (I forget which!).

Sweet photo! I will look at the link tomorrow :)

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Speedlites, Printers, Accessories / Re: Ring Lights
« on: February 10, 2013, 05:47:54 PM »
Yes I used to rent Profoto ringlights too, very powerful and built like a tank. But if you need good, controllable power for meaningful portrait shoots, the Profoto can be too strong, even dialed right down. On my 2400 Profoto floorpack I had to run another head on an extension lead out the door just to get the power low enough. Nuts.

The little speedlight style ringlights are very low powered and purpose designed for macro/medical work. As a portrait ringlight they just don't have the horsepower unless you are happy to work with very big apertures and high ISO setings.

Enter the happy medium from Paul C Buff, the maker of Alien Bees and the incredible Einsteins.
http://www.paulcbuff.com/abr800.php They have a very useful power range and OMG check out the price! Five cents change from $400.

http://www.shutterbug.com/content/alienbees%E2%80%99-ringflash-attractive-lighting-option
http://photo.net/photography-news-forum/00KPXA
http://www.ppmag.com/web-exclusives/2007/06/review-supplement-alienbees-ab.html

-PW

I looked at your links and this is interesting. I have no experience in using these types (apart from trying a plastic thing attached to a 580 once, american company I believe...). In the second link it argues that the use of ring lights give a distinct look that you only get from these.. Do you or any other have any examples, and also an explanation of how they differ from other types of lighting? (apart from the near no-shadows, also mentioned in the article).

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Panic button - 1Dx
« on: February 10, 2013, 03:50:52 PM »
It depends on situation really, but for sports it would be shutter priority at 1/1000 with Auto ISO (yes I trust the 1DX up to 12800 with no issues), servo AF with 12 fps. Architectural would be 7 to 9 bracketed exposures, etc etc.

Thanks.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Panic button - 1Dx
« on: February 10, 2013, 03:19:19 PM »
You can set any functions you want to one of three Custom Setups. I have one set for sports at 1/1000 and 12 fps, one set for long exposure work with bulb mode, mirror up and another set for street work. Any combination you want you can save and have available, and you can set each to one of the custom buttons.

Pretty cool. Care to give the other settings?:)

What other settings?

ISO, aperture, or do you set these based on the situation. The way I understood this guy, he had all settings set prior, and by pushing a button (where I have the AF-ON on my cameras) and he immediately had all the settings ready. Of course I guess that one might have to change certain settings if the conditions of shooting are wastly different...

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Panic button - 1Dx
« on: February 10, 2013, 02:55:22 PM »
You can set any functions you want to one of three Custom Setups. I have one set for sports at 1/1000 and 12 fps, one set for long exposure work with bulb mode, mirror up and another set for street work. Any combination you want you can save and have available, and you can set each to one of the custom buttons.

Pretty cool. Care to give the other settings?:)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Panic button - 1Dx
« on: February 10, 2013, 02:29:48 PM »
While I was taking a walk the other day I met a guy with two 1Dx, lenses and wireless transfer thing. I stopped and chatted with him and learned that he works for one of these news agencies. After talking for a while he mentions that he has programmed a panic button on his 1Dx, a button that is preset with aperture 8 (I think), ISO 6400, and shutter speed of 1/500?..  Not sure if I recall the settings correctly, but he told me that rather being stuck/or forgetting that he was in a meny, when he HAD to get the shot, he could just push this button and be certain to get the shot. I also believe that it was programmed for 12 frames per second.

A smart idea in my opinion.

Anyone heard about this kind of programming?

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Canon General / Re: Thailand (Bangkok) 120 film
« on: February 10, 2013, 11:12:19 AM »
Oh seems i didnt express myself clearly. Im looking for a place in Thailand preferably in Bangkok to develop the films :) Maybe even some local forum member i dont mind.

Sorry my mistake :)

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Canon General / Re: Thailand (Bangkok) 120 film
« on: February 10, 2013, 05:36:13 AM »
Hi there,

im gonna shoot 120 film (6x6) in Thailand in some weeks just for fun. Gonna use Kodak Portra and Tri-x. Does anybody of yall know a good place for getting the film developed? Preferably a place that offers good quality and not just cheap prices. Maybe even some private people on this board here are willing to do it? Portra should be easier since it just uses C41 processing. For the BW photos maybe there is even a place offering baryt paper?
Any input is welcome

Ilford in the UK? I hear fantastic things about them

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: future of sigma art line
« on: February 05, 2013, 08:48:09 AM »
I am like a cat that dipped its tongue in scalding hot milk with sigma compatibility issues... have been an all Canon outfit for years... it is just possible Sigma turned a corner with the new 35mm, but sorry, Sigma will have to turn a lot more consistent corners before I try that saucer again.

thats kind of like me and Tamron

I do know i've got the 85 f1.4 and its flat out awesome so I really really want to give the new 35 a go

My 35 is brilliant straight out the box

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Portrait / Re: Portrait suggestions needed
« on: February 03, 2013, 05:03:36 PM »
I am by no means an expert, and like you most of my photography is a hobby, with a few late exceptions (last year, where I have had about ten paying photojobs on the side of my regular work (mainly to pay for more gear:) )

A couple of things strike me about the shot. The composition of the shot. It is a bit prisonlike :), and you have a lot of space over his head, while cutting his limbs by the elbow.. If I recall you shot him at 125 with a 70-200. I am not sure how much further back you can move, but you can certainly move the zoom back so you get more body, and less dead space above him. Also as you have noted yourself, move him away from the backdrop, and then you have to choose whether you want a low-key or a high-key photo. If the latter then you need more light on the background, as well as a bit blurry. The light in your son's face is a bit flat (the shadows give depth). The white balance seems off, but that might be my screens.. A tad green, but more so on my iPad retina, and less so on my laptop, but I guess that you are shooting in Raw, so that will be no problem to fix afterwards.

Another question is what do you want this photo to be? A character study of your son, or getting focus on his medals and stuff? He as far as I can see have beautiful eyes, and maybe you should work with that?. Get him in a pose that is not straight on, but a bit turned to the side? If the focus is the boyscout, maybe a portrait in their natural environment?...

Just a few thoughts. Hope this helps.

G.

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Black & White / Re: Black & White
« on: February 03, 2013, 03:49:21 PM »
@digital paradise. Really inspiring work, please post more. Espescially love the hall, and the hands!

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Lighting / Re: An open letter to Canon regarding the Canon RT system
« on: February 03, 2013, 10:07:43 AM »
Given that the situation is as it is, would you reccomend the phottix odin, or the pocket wizard plus III? Do they pretty much have the same capabilities (apart from phottix is sender, and separate receivers, and the pw is transeiver). The price of the pw is just a tad more than the phottix, but I have the impression that most people in here have gone with the pw...

Phottix Odin are totally different to the PW Plus III. Way more control capability on the Phottix Odin. Some key features where the Phottix Odin shines is the ability to remotely set the power of the flashguns (in manual and TTL), zoom their heads, set second curtain sync. The Odins are very, very good and ultra reliable.

Ok, thanks :)

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