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I find that the "camera calibration" settings for my 5diii are best on neutral when shooting scenes with skin tones in them.  You will have to add some contrast back into the scene after changing this but it's worth it.

I find that scenes with skin tones are the most difficult to adjust.  Here is my work flow for wedding photos:

1) Get the skin exposure right with the exposure slider
2) Get the color temp, this is often the hardest one of the bunch!
3) Adjust the white and black sliders while holding down the cntrl key so that whites are pure white and blacks are pure black.  This kind of stretches the DR a bit and adds contrast.
4) I will usually bump the vibrance up to 40-50 and the saturation to 10-15 to start.  Doing this screws up the skin tones so I will go into the color saturation panel and use the dropper to click on the skin and draw down the saturation of just the skin tones.  (I have a couple of presets for this and will tweak the presets for each wedding couple)  This process adds the "pop" to the colors.
5) Add a little bit of contrast.  You can do this with the slider but I find that adjusting the curve to an S curve is more natural.  (just use the pre-programed curves)  The amount of contrast is going to depend on the lighting and on your lens.
6) Tweak the white and black sliders again to get the final effect i'm looking for.
7) Tweak the noise reduction with the picture at 100%

Obviously I jump around these steps and use a little different settings based on lighting but for a "standard" picture this is basically it.  Some might say that colors (particularly reds) become too saturated using these settings so you have to adjust for the scene but most people today are looking for the photos that "pop" rather than a very natural look.

FYI, I also use a 50d for weddings and the settings are totally different for it.  The tones are rendered very differently between the two cameras.  Most of the photos I take with the 50d end up as black and whites.

Would you mind showing a couple of pictures where you have done this? :)

Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 07:15:19 PM »
For my 14L I just picked up an ND gelatin filter from B&H. It set me back a pretty penny, but the first few shots I have done with it seem to have turned out great. The thin plastic sheet (gelatin, whatever) is large enough to cut half a dozen filters out of it. This way if you screw one up down the road, you can always make another.

I will read it and see how many stops the different ones offer. Thanks

Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 03:22:42 PM »
Supertelephotos take similar filters.


Good point, but I thought they had glass. I am borrowing the 200 F2.0L and it has a special filterholder that you can replace. I just assimed that that was glass or resin.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: The seemingly amazing Sigma 35
« on: December 21, 2012, 02:10:18 PM »
REVIEW on DPreview

Gold award

Thanks and looking forward to read it. I would have bought the lens today, except that the one decent store where I am holidaying did not have it yet. I bought the 8-15 today, so I get to have some photofun in between christmas, kids and work.

I have to say I am a bit amazed about the postings in this thread. I love my Canon gear, but I have not found Deity in my camera system. It is a system, and it works great for me, but it is just that.. a system for doing what we all love to do. Suddenly sharpness of a lens is of minor importance, and a bokeh (which looks fine to me) is much more important. I would have bought the 35L a long time ago if I could afford it. Now however, Sigma comes along at half the price and with great results, even better, than the L and the discussion turns. I believe in competition, and this lens will probably help to keep Canon on their feet.

I have the Sigma 85 1.4 and I think it is great. Would I not have preferred to have the 85L if I could cough up the money?, ... sure, but it is not because it is a Canon or a L lens, but because I have used it several times and I love the pictures it enables me/us to take.

Happy shooting.

Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 12:31:08 PM »
I would be wary of anything not designed for a lens. Those look like they are intended to be used with lighting (high temperature) so they probably aren't optical quality. I don't know how it works at the rear of a lens, but I know if you put a cheap piece of plastic (even if it looks perfectly clear) over the front of a lens, it will completely ruin the image quality because the plastic has distortion and waviness that you can't see but that gets magnified by the lens.

Good point, I'll check with my regular store when I return from the holidays

Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 12:06:06 PM »
These might be absolute crap(I don't know), but here's at least one place(assuming you are in the US):

Thank you :)

Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 12:00:56 PM »
I would say that it's irrelevant. What kind of filters do you normally use? A circular polarizer? That's not going to work with this lens. The only thing I can see someone using on this lens would be some kind of neutral density filter. Practically anything else you can do in post.

ND seems interesting on the 14 mm end. I have yet to find out where they sell them :)

Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 11:58:28 AM »
The world is ending, and your worried about gelatin!?!  ;D


Lenses / Re: 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 21, 2012, 08:39:08 AM »
What an overwhelming responce!  :o Either no one has this lens, or the question is irrelevant?:)

Lenses / 8-15L cut it yourself gelatin
« on: December 20, 2012, 04:27:27 PM »
I think I am buying this lens tomorrow. I have borrowed it several times and like it a lot. In TDP review he talks about gelatine filters you can cut yourself and place in the rear end. Does anyone have any experience with this, and what would you reccomend?


Third Party Manufacturers / Re: The seemingly amazing Sigma 35
« on: December 20, 2012, 12:41:20 PM »
If I had a 35L, I won't buy Sigma 35mm.  The depreciation of 35L is not worth for Sigma 35mm.  I am planning to get the Sigma 35mm because I don't have Canon 35mm L.

+ 1

The effective range (about 5 meters) is very limited, plus it states that AF assist beam does not fire in wireless mode

Just out of curiosity... I am away on holidays and don't have the manuals lying around. How many meters does the ST-E2 cover, as well as the 580 EX II and 600 EX RT  that I have too? I have only used the ST - E2 to control my three flashes in a studio, so I have not been concerned about the meters yet, but it is interesting.


Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: December 17, 2012, 04:20:02 PM »
photozone seems to lag behind a bit. nothing against them, what they do it very nice, i like it a lot. If i was in the EU i would be offering up some lenses to them for testing.

DXO just posted their thoughts and findings on the SIGMA, so that might tide you over.

Do you have a link? :)


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