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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D600 announced - $2100, let's see how Canon response!!!

« on: September 13, 2012, 04:59:50 PM »

Yeah, that is funny.  I miss you guys.  I have not been on this forum in a few months because I sold all my Canon gear and bought a d7000.  But I see it is as caustic as ever on here.  I don't worry about specs and dxoMark scores and all of that stuff any more, I am just have a wonderful time shooting with my miraculous d7000.  I hope the d600 is just as good.  But I won't be buying one any time soon, I am happy with what I have.

The real joke here is that I checked Nikonrumors earlier today and the people here seem positively ecstatic about the d600 compared to that crowd.

Yes, it's a lot like when the 5dmkiii dropped.  The rest of the photographic would was pretty excited.  I checked in here and there were multiple forum threads about how much it sucked and how Canon dropped the ball.  I guess you can't make everyone happy.  You could offer the 1Dx for $5 and someone would complain about how big it is (thats what she said).

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D600 announced - $2100, let's see how Canon response!!!

« on: September 13, 2012, 03:53:02 PM »

Half plastic, overpriced, usual Nikon poor image quality, very inaccurate autofocus... don't know why they even bothered. Pointless gimmick camera. Bit I guess they'll just bribe dxo to give it 10x the score it deserves again.

funny world you're living in mate 

Yeah, that is funny.  I miss you guys.  I have not been on this forum in a few months because I sold all my Canon gear and bought a d7000.  But I see it is as caustic as ever on here.  I don't worry about specs and dxoMark scores and all of that stuff any more, I am just have a wonderful time shooting with my miraculous d7000.  I hope the d600 is just as good.  But I won't be buying one any time soon, I am happy with what I have.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Why canon sucks ass:

« on: May 11, 2012, 01:54:04 PM »

I don't get it.  Why does anyone care about this d***a**?  And I am using d***a** in the nicest possible way.  What I mean is, why does anyone care about his opinion?  He probably doesn't have any of the equipment he is talking about.  Probably just has a kodak p&s. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Crop/APS-C Prosumer Camera Body in the Fall? [CR1]

« on: May 11, 2012, 10:02:53 AM »

I'll be watching what Canon does with the upcoming 70D.  But I am also watching what Nikon does.  I will be doing a serious upgrade in the fall.  I currently have a very low investment in photography equipment and just rent what I need when I have an event.  What is keeping me from entering the market right now - I know lots of new products are coming out over the next 6 to 8 months.  So I could go out and buy a 7D right now, but then it will likely bested by a new 7D, or maybe even a 70D in a few months.  Or what if Nikon brings the D600 to market and it is a good value proposition (I don't really need the weather sealing of the 7D, and I don't drop or even bump my equipment very often).  So for now I am in a holding pattern waiting to see how things shake out.  I don't depend on photography to feed my family, so I can afford to wait.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 70D threads in a while...what are your predictions?

« on: May 10, 2012, 09:48:58 AM »

Canon might as well give up - Nikon is brewing a storm with their bodies these days! Great specs, great prices - they (Nikon) it addressing what the customers want.

Canon, unfortunately will release another half-assed "upgrade" and bump up the price!

There are losers born every second in this world...

I agree that Nikon is making products the people want right now.  Don't mean to keep harping on it, but the d7000 is a fantastic body at a really competitive price for what if offers (yes, I have shot with it, I have a really good local rental place with really nice people working there).  Canon must address this particular piece of competition, or else risk losing lots of upgraders.  I have been shooting Canon for a while now, but have to admit that Nikon makes a really good argument to change systems.  I know I have mentioned the Nikon d7000 a few times in this thread, but that is because this is where the competition is.  If Canon can't do better than this Nikon body, then they are in trouble.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 70D threads in a while...what are your predictions?

« on: May 10, 2012, 09:29:41 AM »

OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D.  It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think?  Timing?  Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner).  On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

Yep, you've just described the 7D mk2 (except for the $1700 launch price)

So what you are saying is the 7Dmkii will only have an updated sensor compared to the 7D?  Don't see it happening.  For MK II they must at least bump up fps.  And most would be disappointed if they did not upgrade the AF system (although, this is certainly not a weak point of the current 7D).  But anyway, this is a 70D forum post.  I see the 7Dmkii going way up the food chain with a >$2k price, thus clearing room for a much more well appointed 70D.  In fact I would not be surprised to see a 70D that has a lot of the current 7D specs (or close to them sans super rugged body) with an updated sensor and a $1350 intro price.  If that is the case, I think one will be under my Christmas tree.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 70D threads in a while...what are your predictions?

« on: May 09, 2012, 05:59:56 PM »

OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D.  It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think?  Timing?  Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner).  On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

I don't think we will see dual card slots. And burst rate will be about 6fps. Resolution sounds about right. Just my guess!

6fps?  Isn't 60D already 6fps?  I say it has to be 8fps with deep buffer, else why upgrade?  And if Canon is trying to compete with d7000, it needs more pro features (like dual card slots).

The FPS dropped moving from 50D to 60D. That doesn't always get upgraded in this level of body. They are not pro cameras. From imaging resources "the Canon 60D can shoot at 5.3 frames per second. That's down from the 50D's 6.3 frames per second, one of the first downgrades on the list."  I think they might increase the resolution and try to keep the frame rate the same.

Well, yes the 60D was downgraded in some respects from the 50D.  I suspect that is because of the presence of the 7D.  But I am guessing the 7D mkii (if it ever comes) will go way upscale from the position of the 7D.  That will leave room for a return of the xxD line to where it was before (read – more than just a “super rebel”).  May see some magnesium return.  May see a little environmental sealing return.  I am guessing I may not get my dual SD slots, but you never know.
 But if, as you suggest, Canon does nothing but upgrade the sensor and leaves the fps, and AF the same (or nearly the same), I think the d7000 represents a better value.  If the digic 5 is truly 6 or 7 times faster (or whatever they claim) than digic 4, I think they can do better than 6 fps. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 70D threads in a while...what are your predictions?

« on: May 09, 2012, 12:09:37 PM »

OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D.  It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think?  Timing?  Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner).  On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

I don't think we will see dual card slots. And burst rate will be about 6fps. Resolution sounds about right. Just my guess!

6fps?  Isn't 60D already 6fps?  I say it has to be 8fps with deep buffer, else why upgrade?  And if Canon is trying to compete with d7000, it needs more pro features (like dual card slots).

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EOS Bodies / No 70D threads in a while...what are your predictions?

« on: May 08, 2012, 11:56:14 PM »

OK, I have not seen any threads in a while specifically about the rumored 70D.  It comes up in threads about possible 7D upgrades, but only as a product lineup issue.

So what do you think?  Timing?  Features?

My two cents.

Phototonica announcement (maybe sooner).  On shelves by Thanksgiving.

8fps
22MP
dual SD slots
7D autofocus
more rugged body than 60D
and hopefully focus peeking

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon D3200 is likely to be the real market threat

« on: May 08, 2012, 11:00:50 PM »

I think you guys seriously underestimate the sophistication of the average entry level dslr consumer.  A few years ago, that was me.  I didn't know much about cameras back then, but I sure did not go down to best buy and plop down $600 for the first dslr I saw.  I did months of research on the internet first.  Before I purchased I already knew that MP was not as important as IQ (also that MP did not = IQ).  I also understood that buying a dslr means you are buying into a system of lenses and accessories that are at least as important as the body itself.  Maybe all consumers are not as thorough as I am, but I find it hard to believe that the "average" consumer that is smart enough to know they want a dslr is so uneducated  that they are reduced to the levels that you guys on here claim. 

Sub $200 dollar cams are an impulse buy and not subject to much thought - therefore you get very inexperienced people buying them who look at MP count.  Cams above $500 are no longer an impulse buy and the consumers in the market for those cams are more sophisticated than you think.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 650D - sensor size?

« on: May 04, 2012, 02:50:45 PM »

I think the d7000 is 16.2MP.

Yes, typo, fixed.

I recently needed a body for the weekend and could not get a Canon body, so I shoot with the d7000 and the Nikkor 35mm 1.4G.  The results were absolutely breathtaking.

:-o ... back when I got into digital photography 1 1/2 years ago, I had to decide between Nikon (d7000) and Canon (7d or 60d). Despite the better specs of the Nikon I chose Canon because the 60d is cheaper than the d7000, runs magic lantern and most of all I liked the usability better - the latter might be because I've  shot analog Canon before.

The Nikkor 35/1.4 is known to be much better than the outdated Canon 50/1.4, so that's no surprise. But all things considered - would you now choose Nikon aps-c over Canon?

I really liked the Nikon.  If the choice were only between the bodies of the 60D and D7000, I think I would take the D7000.  Now 7D vs. D7000 - different story.  But the 7D is more expensive.  And of course, lenses are a whole different complication.  So I don't want to go into Canon system vs. Nikon system.  Just live it simply at that.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??

« on: May 04, 2012, 10:50:02 AM »

I can't see the 7D line being killed off.  Clearly it is the camera pros use when they need the extra reach. 

That would be the 1D4 you are thinking of then??

No, the 7D is what I was thinking of.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??

« on: May 04, 2012, 10:12:26 AM »

I can't see the 7D line being killed off.  Clearly it is the camera pros use when they need the extra reach.  And I think Canon has a pretty strong history of supporting pro fotogs.

 I was walking around an event yesterday and saw at least 3 people carrying both a 5 series and the 7D.   Anecdotal I know - but almost every place I see fotogs gathered together - there will be a few 7D's.   7D has high demand - I just don't see Canon dropping this line.  Doesn't make sense. 

And if the 7D is killed off, there will only be one camera between the Rebels and the full frames (60D or maybe 70D).  This also doesn't make sense.  There will be a hole in the crop line that I am sure Nikon will take advantage of. 

For every reason I can think of, a 7Dmkii makes a lot of sense.  I say Photonica 2012.  On shelves by Christmas 2012. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 650D - sensor size?

« on: May 04, 2012, 09:29:06 AM »

+1 on that.  I think 16MP with very good DR and low noise would be a very sweet sensor.  Maybe hard to sell at best buy, but to those in the know - it would be very good news.

The Nikon d7000 uses 18mp and seems to sell just fine. Nikon surely could pressed Sony to go at least for 18mp to compete with Canon, but they decided for less mp and thus more dr and less noise. But after years of arguing why 18-21 mp is so important for cropping, I don't think Canon can go lower than 18mp again.

I think the d7000 is 16.2MP.  Anyway, I think that is what you meant, and you point is still valid.  I recently needed a body for the weekend and could not get a Canon body, so I shoot with the d7000 and the Nikkor 35mm 1.4G.  The results were absolutely breathtaking.  I am not an extreme cropper and I prefer to fill the frame with my subject as much as possible while still maintaining a pleasing  composition.  The resolution of the d7000 was far more than enough for the modest cropping I do.  I hope the 7dmkii does not follow the MP war trend.  But if we do ever see this camera, I suspect it will be above 20MP.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 650D - sensor size?

« on: May 03, 2012, 05:11:43 PM »

I agree 100%. 18 Megapixels is already pushing the limits of DLA and lens sharpness on a crop camera. Much better to stick with 16-18mp and boost the DR and ISO capability. 16 MP APS-C with Digic V and gapless microlenses would be a very tasty proposition for me (If I hadn't decided that my next camera will be FF). Canon's choice to make the 1Dx an 18 MP camera was very exciting to me and I hope they back down from the megapixel wars on other camera lines as well.

+1 on that.  I think 16MP with very good DR and low noise would be a very sweet sensor.  Maybe hard to sell at best buy, but to those in the know - it would be very good news.  7Dmkii with this 16MP sensor, digic 5, 12 fps - nice!  But no way that happens - gotta keep up with the Joneses on MP count.