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Why? Because the moon covered the same absolute sensor area. There is a difference in pixel count between the two images, but overall, both sensors gathered exactly the same amount of light! That's the key there. There is no advantage to a larger sensor if you are not utilizing that increase in sensor area.

Thanks for the great post! Two additions here from my 60d/6d experience:

1. The more sensor coverage you have (with about the same mp ff vs crop), the more you can profit from future developments in noise reduction. DxO's prime shows the way, and I'm sure there's going to be more developments once even more computing power is available.

2. You're talking of reach for tele shots, with reach for macro there's the aspect of a) flight distance of animals and b) light occlusion by the lens (for available light or flash). That's why I still prefer my 60d for insect macros and the like even over my shiny new 6d. The 100L is as sharp as it gets on crop, so no advantage of ff here.

Are you shooting wildlife at ISO 100 and 200 on a regular basis?

Me, too, esp. because Magic Lantern's +3ev dynamic range boost with dual_iso only works with base iso ... that's why I'm regularly using 100/800 or 100/1600 is for wildlife for shadow/sun, sunrise/sunset or catching specular highlights.

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Lenses / Re: lifespan of IS motor?
« on: August 11, 2014, 04:35:34 AM »
Using IS at very high shutters speeds can result in blurry images, but I've never had one that I could attribute to the IS.  Its one of those things that is possible, but not a major issue.

Hmmmyes, sorry to be a pita on this, but I've also heard completely other personal opinions from wildlife photogs who often switch between static/IS and moving/no-IS scenes. Personally, I'm not so sure, but I did sometimes get inexplicable blur @100% crop on very high shutter speeds.

As written above, I am rather sure with macro/focus stacks turning IS off is a good idea no matter the famed "tripod detection".

I'm forgetful, and I might get more blurred images from not turning it back on when a slow shutter speed was used.

Hmmmyes, maybe a firmware setting "use IS only on shutter speed below ..." would be in order.
 
There is nothing wrong with turning IS off and on, but I'd not recommend doing it frequently, like 1000 times a month.  which is ~ 30 times a day. Twice a day is only 730 times a year, so that should not be a issue.

Thanks for your resourceful insight! I usually turn IS & af off at least once a day to review/rate lots of pictures because I hate the IS kicking in when I happen to press half shutter.

But after your comment I might end up rather switching the half-shutter function to "meter only" to save some mechanic switch cycles if they harder/more expensive to replace than on the camera body.

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Post Processing / Re: The so called "Blockbuster color grading"
« on: August 11, 2014, 04:25:55 AM »
You are right, popularity is among producers. See one more with before and after.

Ok, interesting, thanks. For whatever it's worth, imho this is rather subtle and fits the scene - esp. in comparison to what I see in cinema, even on good production like the Hobbit which could certainly shine without it. 

Good luck finding an automatization for this & sorry I cannot help - but feel free to share it once you've discovered it :-)

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Canon General / Re: Who's on Instagram?
« on: August 08, 2014, 02:38:43 AM »
How many other members are on Instagram?  What are your thoughts on using it?

I've recently been told that instagram is the one thing to post on next to tumblr if you want to spread your photography, but I don't really come to terms with it.

As far as I see it this has a destinct "upload your mobile phone shots" look & fell, and I recently read the user base is very young and predominantly female (I could try to remember the link if necessary) which squares with the people raving about it to me.

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Post Processing / Re: The so called "Blockbuster color grading"
« on: August 08, 2014, 02:34:40 AM »
I do video fusion and color grading with blockbuster look is popular in video.

I'm not a video guy, so this is a bit ot, but I dare to ask: popular by the viewers who have to see the stuff, or by the producers who think that color grading gives you an instant blockbuster look?

I admit I'm not the youngest member around here and thus may be old-school, but the color grading in the blockbusters in the last half-decade is getting worse and worse even with high budget films. Saves me money though, I wouldn't want to see these in the cinema even if I would get the ticket for free :-p

Bottom line: Whatever you do, subtlety with grading could also a useful approach... one shot is too little to make up my opinion about your stile though. Maybe you could post the source and graded shot side by side?

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Lenses / Re: lifespan of IS motor?
« on: August 08, 2014, 02:28:48 AM »
IMHO, you are much more likely going to break something turning that switch off and on.

Do you have any data on this? Personally, I wouldn't be so sure and thus keep "protecting" my IS if the shutter time doesn't warrant it at all. Plus the 100L IS sometimes makes frightening noises when I turn it on with the camera in a near vertical position (*kneeeecchh-eeeeeek!*) but as far as I've read this is to be expected on this model.

Mostly, I don't use IS for high speed sports/wildlife in good light, for many other situations the stabilizing effect on the vf and thus more accurate framing & af point placement makes IS useful anyway.

Last not least, don't be so sure about the tripod auto-off of the IS, there are some threads about it and I'm getting better results for focus stacking with the IS off via the switch rather than relying on the detection. One reason probably is that even slight vibrations interfere with the tripod detection.

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At least it will be free, but I can understand the frustration.

I'm not frustrated yet, but just wanted to have the certainty what my options are - and now I know that the lower cps level is just "nice to have" and they might consider bumping you up in the repair queue, but you cannot do anything about it if they don't.

I think most of us aren't lens limited, but body limited here. I just had a look again at the Canon Europe CPN site, and there sure is a gold level.

True, it's not hard to accumulate that many qualifying lenses.

My statement concerning the levels was fuzzy, you get gold if you've got 2 "pro" bodies, and "platinum" for 3.  But there are hardly any camera bodies that qualify for gold and not for platinum except the soon to be phased out 5dc. It's a marketing decision, that's why you can get platinum with a 5d2 and only silver with a 6d.

https://cps.canon-europe.com/Public/QualifyingProducts

Way I look at it, the silver level gets you a slight improvement to turnaround time compared to without, so consider it a bonus. If it is so critical you can't do without the camera equipment for a period, then consider some backup plan.

I've got a 60d as backup alright which in good light holds its own vs. the 6d - it's just that I'm missing an uwa lens for crop. In a pinch, I could always loan a ff camera from a camera store which most likely would be cheaper than a full-fledged cps upgrade even if they've offer it in the EU.


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Marsu, if it were me, I'd call and ask for a date when it will be completed and a ask them to provide a loaner while you wait.

Well, unless there are any precedence cases that they gave a loan even for silver I'd like to save myself the hassle to discuss with them...

I don't expect them to take ages for the repair anyway since the 6d is the 2nd most recent canon camera, but it would be nice to know my options if they need to order the "top dial" replacement from japan by ground mail.

They do provide loaners for the paid grades (if available).  for the silver grade, about all you can do is to demand a refund of your money.

Tough, if I don't pay any since it's free on warranty :-p ... but thanks, I figured as much.

Fyi: Unfortunately there is no way in the EU to upgrade your cps level with money directly, you have to purchase the two camera bodies that qualify you for the platinum level. In essence, there's no "gold" level in the eu as it's either amateur/silver like 6d or pro/platinum like 5d2,5d3, ...

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The back dial wheel, the info button, the menu button, and the right upper buttons did not work anymore.

Right, so I guess 6d owners should be most careful not to let water condensate or let rain drop on the *back* side of the camera, the top or front might be sealed better.

The funny thing is, that my old 60D never had any problem when I annually stayed inside the tropical greenhouse for hours.

+1, exactly my experience, I always was too lazy to wrap my 60d into a plastic bag in the tropical garden and nothing happened. With the 6d, I definitely won't try that.

It was not easy to convince the Canon Service partner that this issue is under guarantee. They just did it, because there were no water drops inside. Maybe, the Maerz GmbH in Berlin is quite as fair as the Service Center where I sent my Cam.

I seem to be lucky, too (knock on wood): Though a repair part is missing and it will take more time than the cps time span, the repair information they just sent me just states "warranty" ("Garantie") even though it's in a really "used" condition on the outside.

This might be because the camera is less than one year old, and afaik in the EU/Germany in this timespan the *manufacturer* has to prove _to_you_ that you broke it, after one year it's vice versa and they might just try to lay it on you. Or maybe their repair policy is simply more relaxed on newer gear for publicity and customer satisfaction reasons, I don't know.


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I'm in the EU and the most I get with my cheap 6d+60 is cps silver, no matter how many lenses I own :-\ ... but on the other hand it's free. The repair terms seem to be similar with the big brothers (pun intended) across the ocean, so I guess everyone can share their experiences:

The "Service Turnaround" is given with 5-7 business days.

The question is: This is only a "nice to have" recommendation, and if for example a part is unavailable it can take "as long as it takes" w/o me being able to do  anything about it, correct?



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Please canon, charge me the additional $50 for comparable weather sealing!

They want you to charge *$5000* more for a 1d camera body :-p ... but still thanks to the competition, the 6d exists at all. Let's hope they continue to pressure Canon to do less crippling. On the other hand, why would they? Broken cameras due to humidity will earn Canon more $$$ due to "upgrade sales by planned obsolescence" than they loose from some free servicing under warranty.

But I admit the lack of proper sealing is on my short list of "Top Canon Annoyances", offering a $1600+ camera lacking some rubber rings is plain annoying, the same as not selling sealed ef-s lenses at all no matter the lens' price :-\

If any piece of electronics gets wet, don't seal it in a bag because that will keep the moisture in and worsen the problem. It's much better to find some shelter and let the camera dry out in circulating air.

Good idea, but in this case I was really caught outside by the thunderstorm, had only my water-proof bicycle bags with me and there was no shelter in sight :-\ ... I hope it won't happen again, at least I'll be quicker to stuff my camera away next time.

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I haven't soaked my 6D yet (knock on wood), but I was told that 2 6D's and a 50D failed in wet/humid conditions during an insect macro-photography workshop in Belize last year, but 7D's and even some Rebels kept clicking.

Interesting, after my recent experience I believe it - and it's in line with my general assumption that Canon cut corners on the 6d wherever they could, except for the sensor that is. I hope more experiences turn up so we might know if the 6d is really more endangered than for example the 60d or even the 5d2.

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How can one measure "weather sealing" and how can one test it?

As discussed over and over, you can't w/o a lot of money and creation of a new industry standard. That's why the only way to tell cameras apart is by collecting user experiences, hence this poll.

Afaik there is one thing that's different between camera models though: Some buttons are "sealed" with just some cheap foam, and some have rubber rings (or the like). Hard to tell since Canon doesn't give us any specs other than fancy "sealing" diagrams-

I treat all my cameras/lenses as being not weather sealed. I try to protect both the camera and lens so I don't have to find out the hard way what the marketing department meant by "weather sealing".

I also try to do that, but shooting outdoors I find this nearly impossible - sand and humidity always linger around the next corner. That's why I cannot tread my dslr as "unsealed" as my cheap mobile phone which breaks even if you put it into a damp pocket :-o

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The day before yesterday I was surprised by a thunderstorm and shot with my 6d (and a sealed 70-300L lens) for about 5 minutes in the rain. I did my best to still protect the camera and wrapped some cloth around it, but some rain hit it. Afterwards I dried it with a towel as good as you can in a thunderstorm and stored in a waterproof bag.

Problem 1: The back buttons (Q/INFO) and the joystick buttons started malfunctioning after a very short time after the rain began. I have not experienced this behavior with my 60d.

Problem 2: Yesterday the camera broke down completely after some minutes of reviewing pictures - it's now at Canon service and I hope the warranty covers it. I had put it in a dry place over the previous night, but didn't use the "rice bag" method.

Question: What are your experiences with the 6d and wet conditions? Was I just very unlucky? I know the 6d sealing level is well below the 5d3 (which itself is way below a 1d), but after this experience I'll have to tread my 6d as I would a Rebel :-\

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Technical Support / Re: Canon Repair Facility in Germany
« on: July 30, 2014, 10:01:50 AM »
is there anyone out there who can recommend a Canon repair facility in Germany? The are a few on Canon's website, only one is run by Canon. Any suggestions?

I always use Foto Maerz in Berlin because it's just around the corner from my home, but unlike Robert I cannot recommend them as far as my experiences go.

Their counter reception people are arrogant beyond belief and expect every piece of equipment handed to them to be in pristine condition (try that when being an outdoor photog). They have a hefty fee just for giving you a price estimation so you have to make a guess for yourself if the repair will be more than the lens' worth.

They also try their best no to be forthcoming with repair prices (I had a 100 non-L macro repaired, it broke down again, and they did their best to pin it on me - and there's really no way of proving different). Now that I have cps their attitude has gotten a bit better, but still be prepared to pay ~80€ just for them to pick up the screwdriver.

Edit: To be fair, my recent experience was better (I now have cps, that might be worth something). They were rather friendly and even offered to give me an average *free* "check & clean" price estimation of my 70-300L, something that usually costs €40. Knock on wood it continues that way :-o

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