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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 30, 2013, 04:55:20 AM »
What I don't get is why it would need a dedicated processor when the digic 5+ is said to be 17x faster than digic 4. Still very much noticeably faster than dual digic 4. I know it's more megapixels, but wouldn't that at least shoulder the performance loss from lacking a dedicated processor?

You're all correct - we don't know for sure, but then again this is a rumor forum :->

The smaller 70d size vs. 7d1 might indicate that they've only got one cpu on the pcb ... but I personally also think that the digic5 could take the af load, question is if the fw is meant to use it, after all as written above Canon has a history of crippling lesser camera bodies. In every case I'm doubtful if the fw has as many tracking options as the 7d1, but we'll see...

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 24-70 f/2 OS HSM Coming? [CR1]
« on: July 30, 2013, 04:15:25 AM »
We’re told this could be a Photokina 2014 lens

Boys and girls(any?), this is a [CR1] wild guess and be explicit: This lens would only be announced in end of September, 2014, more than a year from now...

... and by then it won't be in mass production but available in limited quantities, after all they're producing it not only for the Canon mount and new lenses always take time to be available everywhere.

And here I am, just having bought the Tamron 24-70 VC not a year ago...

The date and a high demand make very suspicious if the price could really be less than Canon's mk2, after all the Canon's price will have dropped in the meantime and even more facing real competition if the Sigma's af is better than Tamron.

Plus of course this will be large and heavy, it's not like Canon wouldn't be able to build something like this, they just gave in to pro photographers' demand with their mk2 to *reduce* weight rather than to build an impractical dream lens for moving about and handholding a long time: [CR1] doesn't change the laws of physics...

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 30, 2013, 03:56:06 AM »
Oh, look, it's good ol' Paul in [CR] dream land :-> (no, really, I think your posts are among the most valuable here):

- feature set, such as GPS, wireless, remote flash control

... my 2ct: built-in rt controller won't happen unless Yongnuo has a built-in radio speedlite system (not yet) and even then Canon would have to forced at gunpoint to give up $500 sales for a 600rt as a master. The idea is that enthusiasts are ok with optical fallback control via the pop up flash, and if you venture further into flash photography you just have to cough up the $$$ to be able to use the nice 600rt display or the in-camera rt control rather than some awkward 3rd party external controller.

I also don't see gps in a pro/sturdy body, of course it could be done but it's rather an amateur feature given the advantages of external loggers and Canon would admit they'd just left out the 6d flash and gps from the 70d for marketing and no real tech reason.

- as the 70D has the 7D's AF, the 7DmkII will have improvements in that space

... not quite, this is a spec sheet fallacy: the 70d af system has just the same number of af points, knowing Canon I doubt they'll confuse simple xxd customers with too much customization in the fw plus lacking a dedicated af processor it might well be the 70d is slower & has worse tracking than the 7d1!

- an articulated screen (the 7D's is 'fixed')

... but that would half the number of potential 7d2 customers after years of dogmatism that a swivel screen isn't "pro", cannot be properly sealed and will break off the camera just by looking at it :-> ... as a 60d owner though, I know how handy that is for video, tripod & awkward angles.

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If you had a penny for every time you've worried about the 6D you could have bought one at full price by now.

Me? No, currently I'm worrying a lot about the 6d because I've got all the information I wanted and I know how the price will develop since the US price is much lower than in Europe. This poll is just for fun and out of curiosity, though I admit I'm not a member of the "money doesn't matter" club and thus also haven't got the habit of telling people to stop worrying about it.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Wrecked my 6D today, what a POS
« on: July 29, 2013, 10:33:33 AM »
I know its a bit late for you now, and your 6D seems to have survived OK thank goodness, but I always carry a plastic Wal-mart carrier bag in my pocket when it looks as if it might rain.

+1, there's no urgent need for "professional" bags, in Berlin there are a lot of pro photojournalists around and I'm often seeing *them* to what amounts to a "do it yourself" bag sealing solution ... which imho proves they are professional, they're interested in the result and not the looks.

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This calls for a new price poll :-) ... vote here on how much further the 6d price will drop: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=16147.0

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With the 6d imho being designed to be cheap in production, I'm wondering how far the price will drop further, esp. with the 70d also targeting an "amateur/enthusiast" crowd but with different needs.

So, in the grand old tradition of my price polls, vote and be able to say "I told you so" :-) ... and the prices are for the U.S., in Europe the 6d sells for a *lot* more which imho will also change sooner or later.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Dpreview tested the 100D
« on: July 29, 2013, 08:53:49 AM »
Tried the 100D in the shop as an alternatieve body for hiking. But I was not satisfied by the IQ. I was disappointed about Digic 5 (I thought the IQ will be better than the IQ of my old 60D and 7D...

Digic5 has absolutely nothing to do with the iq if you shoot raw, it's all about the sensor and the quality of the path the signal takes... though with digic5 you have better lens correction & probably updated nr for jpeg. The real advantages of the newer cpu are that it's faster and has more built-in functions which the firmware can either use or not (as on cheaper Canon bodies). The Magic Lantern devs have figured some out already, but with the Canon fw the potential is wasted on the 100d.

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Canon's current 70-300L is a great lens but a bit slow.  Fixed F4 would make this a real winner and a great alternative to the 200-400 on a APS-C body.

Well, see it the other way around: The 70-300L is a f5.6 lens with added f4 at the wide end :-) ... it's a zoom after all. If it would be constant aperture it'd have to be much heavier, most likely a good deal more bulky and surely more expensive, which would deprive the 70-300L of the defining characteristic "flexible, sturdy, ok iq & still portable".

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 29, 2013, 04:58:31 AM »
So who´s buying the 70d if the ISO performance is the same as 60d´s (or a small improvement)?
The 5DIII was only a small improvement over the 5DII in terms of ISO performance.  I think a few people bought 5DIIIs.  ::)

Fair enough, but afaik the main concern with the 5d2 was the mediocre af performance, while with the 18mp crop sensor it's iso - so improving on the main shortcoming would be a good idea to make people upgrade from the previous generation.

Canon obviously opted for another thing, introducing a new technology which is also fine even if the dual pixel af isn't for me, but for iso the logical upgrade is still a ff and not a newer gen crop at least until the 7d2 is here.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Wrecked my 6D today, what a POS
« on: July 29, 2013, 04:55:41 AM »
It's crazy why on earth canon would skimp alittle on some gaskets for 6D.

No, it isn't, because word gets around when people read threads like this and then Canon gets $1000 more selling 5d3 instead of 6d bodies - imho Canon cut corners all they could on the 6d to be able to lower the price much more than it currently is.

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EOS-M / Re: Focal Length Reciprocal Rule + mirrorless body
« on: July 28, 2013, 07:19:28 PM »
I suspect that the shutter spead should be much faster, because the camera body, without viewfinder-eye contact, is less stable than the DSLR's one.

Absolutely, that's why newer cameras (6d, 5d3) allow you to set a min shutter speed in the firmware. You can get the same effect by using Magic Lantern's "ML Auto ISO" which lets you do the same and more, Canon's old school formula from the previous century most of the time results of in either too fast (wide angle, static scene) or much too slow (moving subject, shaky camera) shutter speeds.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 'Revolutionary' Dual Pixel AF Explained
« on: July 28, 2013, 03:10:59 PM »
Those are advantages of an OVF over the LCD screen.

Correct, because this thread is about the 70d-style dual af.

However, those no longer hold for a proper EVF (except for battery consumption).

I'm also very sure evf will surpass ovf sooner or later, with equal optical quality plus many added features. But imho this point isn't reached yet, every time I look though a Sony "pro" camera with evf I'm getting the creeps, the image simply doesn't come close to what I see with my bare eyes.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 28, 2013, 11:55:24 AM »
I don't see why it is so difficult to build a sensor that amplifies to each ISO setting directly...seems a lot of other sensor manufacturers do it.low level...

Isn't that what the 1dx sensor does, looking at the constant dr curve vs. other sensors zigzag? If so, maybe it's a budget thing, and a sensor with only so many discrete analog iso settings is easier to build and then the rest is done in the in-camera postprocessing chain. Plus the usual reason for "cheating" is marketing, i.e. hoping that people and non in-depth reviews won't stumble upon the fact that higher iso settings don't deliver the results you might expect from extrapolating.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 'Revolutionary' Dual Pixel AF Explained
« on: July 28, 2013, 11:44:29 AM »
Excuse my ignorance but how will spot/point AF be possible? Offhand i am thinking that in those situations wouldnt the current AF system be preferable?

Doesn't seem to be a problem for me to be done in live view, it's just how the camera fw evaluates the scene. Plus the 70d could link spot to the af point, something only seen in the 1d series :-)

I think the advantage of the optical viewfinder is...

... that:
* you can hold the camera/lens properly w/o fatigue
* since the gadget is near your head, it's much more natural coordination just like "looking" w/o dslr
* you see something at all in bright sunlight
* the perceived ovf frame looks larger than the lcd at 20cm distance
* an ovf doesn't draw battery power

The main advantage of the live view is that you can enhance the display with multiple information, specifically focus peaking, zebras & histogram, this is also something I'd like to see in an evf. Plus the 70d can fast af anywhere, admittedly a very large advantage over say the miniature af point spread like 5d2/6d.

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