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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D- An amateur's review
« on: December 05, 2013, 02:48:24 AM »
Maybe I need to lower the price a little more, or sell it piece by piece.

Of course the resale value is the catch with 3rd party lenses like Sigma, and in all honesty for most people the 70d is a much better camera for newbies because of the dual pixel af and for anyone else because of the far superior af system... I know what I use my 60d for (Magic Lantern, it's n/a on the 70d), but for everyone else it's plain outdated and has the same sensor as every Rebel or cheap EOS M. But good luck finding a buyer for a decent price anyway, 13k shutter is really low!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Two New Full Frame Cameras in 2014? [CR1]
« on: December 05, 2013, 02:44:18 AM »
It certainly doesn't steal sales from the company

Maybe not on the accumulated sales side, but certainly a lot of people buy a Rebel because you can fix usability and feature shortcomings with ML and Canon cannot use "it has xyz brackets" as a marketing item. Also the raw video of the 5d3 might lose them some 1dx sales...

... but I still think Canon profits from ML as a system, even if Panasonic recently prevented 3rd party fw on their cameras because of increased support costs there is a reason Canon does allow it.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D- An amateur's review
« on: December 05, 2013, 02:40:34 AM »
I sold my 50D for a fantastic price right after I bought the 6D.  And unlike your precious 60D, the 50D had AFMA...so there!  :P

You were lucky then, my 60D is really worn down from outdoor use and has a lot of shutter cycles... as for afma, with crop it strictly speaking isn't necessary if you buy your lenses accordingly and return them if they would need heavy afma, it's only with ff that I need it at all with the 100L @f2.8.

Since nobody answered my other thread, what's your favorite pocket size camera, Marsu?  Or maybe you're not opinionated enough to say?  I might have to coax it out of you!

None, the 60d/6d are small enough for me because I always carry a backpack around or have a bicycle with me, really no need for anything smaller - I really rely on the usability of a real dslr with two dials, no p&s for me thank you very much.

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Well, the 6D has what is effectively a 1-point AF system.
A bit of an exaggeration...  I often use the outer focal points on my 6D.  Yes, the center point is much better, but the outer points are not bad in decent light.  I can nail shallow DOF with the outer points.
+1

-1 :-p ... you cannot nail the af with shallow dof and the 6d outer points *reliably* because they only have f5.6 precision, that's no opinion, that's a fact. Of course you will get lucky after a few tries, or the subjective shallow isn't really shallow like f2.8- or the subject was of a type that some variance isn't noticeable.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M2 Not Coming to North America
« on: December 04, 2013, 05:07:44 PM »
Canon HAS the technology (they just aren't utilizing it),

Do they really have it?

I'm the first one to say Canon boldly milks their products to the last cent before innovating, but afaik the exmor sensor design is patented so using a smaller cmos structure wouldn't solve everything. As for the mirrorless future Canon does not have a good evf, nobody has, so for the time being the dual pixel af is limited to amateur/quick video. They might have new DO lenses, but nobody ever saw an actual product yet, so they might not even have that. They do use their (hybrid) IS system and good usm af in lenses. So what real innovations apart from the 20mp 70d sensor do they have they don't use?

Concerning the latter, I'm convinced the M2 is a short-lived products and will be shortly replaced by a M3 with dual pixel af, that's the reason they don't even export the model outside Asia.

and I am truly loath to buy an A7r.

I agree about what you wrote about Sony, whenever I get a Sony store I try their new toys but it's also not for me, I don't seem to be a Sony person. Nikon, well, I had thought long about switching before I bought my more expensive lenses for Canon, but I remained on this side because of Magic Lantern (focus stacking, focus peaking, bracketing, intervalometer, ...) and because I can program my own dslr.

Other than that, it's really just illogical brand attachment because my first dslr was a Canon 620 and I loved my EOS RT, but I don't doubt Nikon would also have been a good choice - esp. when buying Tamron and Sigma lenses, currently it seems a bit strange to favor Canon cameras below the famed 1dx/5d3 af system.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D- An amateur's review
« on: December 04, 2013, 03:55:02 PM »
I hope you are able to get one and sell the 550D.

Personally, I chose to keep my old 60d with 150k+ shutter cycles when I purchased the 6d because it's not entirely an upgrade - the 6d lacks the swivel screen which is great for tripod, and the crop factor is very handy for tele (narrower fov) and macro (less dof). Last not least, not changing lenses but having two bodies is useful sometimes and you always have a failsafe if your 6d should ever break.

If your 550d isn't in pristine condition anymore you might also think about keeping it because the resale value probably probably isn't too great nowadays, the 18mp sensor is aged and newer models have many more features.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M2 Not Coming to North America
« on: December 04, 2013, 03:13:12 PM »
but reusing the 18mp AGAIN really does feel like Canon is giving their customers a collective slap in the face with a little "Haha! Got you to buy one again! Nah! Nah!"

No doubt Canon is behind in sensor performance in relative terms, but you're having a top-down perspective:

Sony is currently advertising their mirrorless aps-c in Germany and the main point is that has a *large* sensor - aps-c! - and the *same* as in their "pro" aps-c dslrs. Obviously a lot of folks shooting iPhone consider a crop sensor as a step up, and in absolute terms in good light there is indeed nothing wrong with it but it's quite capable.

So I'd take the "bottom-up" perspective: There's nothing wrong with the M1/M2 sensor, but I'd personally wonder why I should buy a 70d in 2014 with about the same sensor performance for a whole lot of money more, not everyone is into bird or child tracking.

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Is this another one of those times where you're being more discouraging than encouraging?

I'm encouraging people new to gas (gear acquirement syndrome) to carefully consider what to buy, and primes simply have usage limitations while zooms get better all the time...

I get accused of that, but frankly you're worse than me!

... probably I've got less money to invest than you, that's why I'm quite careful when spending it or advising other people to do so :-o

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Lenses / Re: IS Versions of the 50mm, 85mm & 135mm Coming? [CR1]
« on: December 04, 2013, 01:16:51 PM »
You only lose a little speed and weather-sealing (in the case of the 24mm F/1.4L).

"Only" use weather sealing? Well, it obviously depends on what you shoot, but for me it makes *the* difference between usable and no ends of repair bills like I experienced with my old non-L macro :-\

I have to admit I find it hilarious if Canon will go on reserving sealing (which would consist of some rubber rings and such - please correct my if I'm wrong) for "L" lenses, for a €600-€800 lens this should be a given - at least to a standard that covers light rain, but maybe reserves wartime usage in the tropical rainforest for the premium models.


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You might even consider buying a monitor calibration tool first, and see how much it improves your current display.

Thanks, actually that's what I'll do, question is which one - see here, I'd appreciate your input: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=15988.msg343148#msg343148

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Software & Accessories / Re: PC Monitor for photo editing
« on: December 04, 2013, 11:35:09 AM »
If you're OK with an sRGB color gamut but want what is displayed to be accurate, then you can get pretty much any general-purpose display and a standalone colorimeter (ColorMunki, Spyder, etc).
I rececently opened a similar thread (http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=18426) because I didn't see this one - sorry everyone. My interest is about the same as above, and it seems the Dell U2412M is about right for me...

... what I don't quite understand even after searching through the board and reading the good review at http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/reviews/profiling/colormunki_display.html ... What are the real world differences between the calibration solutions if I "just" want accurate sRGB colors? The choices seem to be:

  • 3 Versions of the Spyder4: Express €85, Pro, €125, Elite €170
  • 3 Versions of X-Rite: ColorMunki Smile €80, ColorMunki Display €120, i1 Pro €175

Also any experiences with the different features would be appreciated, esp. if you find the ColorMunki "Display" is "worth it" over the basic "Smile" version, the differences are ambient light correction, setting white point, specifying a custom gamma and disabling ADC. Thanks!

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Check out this thread from elsewhere on the forum

Wupps, thanks, I didn't find that one when I searched - thanks. I'll continue to post there not to duplicate things.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=15988.0

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sorry can´t help for cheap solutions... they never work for me.

Doh - currently my budget allocated to gear is nearly maxed out. My thinking is that it can only get better in comparison to my current non-solution.

it makes no sense to look at images you made with your expensive camera on a crappy (and small) monitor

True, but that wouldn't matter so much as other people look at it either in print or their monitors ... plus I can buy an expensive monitor later, but I cannot upgrade my former pictures so buying lenses/cameras first seems like a smarter choice. Last not least for many shots fine color nuances don't really matter, it's only recently that I ran into these problems.

It would be also helpful to know what's the decisive difference of €1000+ monitors in contrast to (much) cheaper models so I can try to decide for myself if it's currently "worth it" to me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS M2 Not Coming to North America
« on: December 04, 2013, 07:47:47 AM »
Why would Canon US and EU continue to promote and laud the features of the M as their (only) CSC camera, when everybody and their dog will know full well there is a much better model available that addresses the known weaknesses of the current M?

Because everybody and their guinea pigs know that "addressing" the known weaknesses doesn't mean *solving* them, so you might as well buy a cheap M1 rather than a half-baked M2.

Canon's one tech advantage is the dual pixel af... meaning the M2 will have a very short life and the only reason the M3 with the 70d's sensor isn't here yet would be that the r&d timeline of the M and EOS weren't in sync so they produce the M2 as an intermediary product. In the computer/phone market this happens all the time, short-lived "soon to be outdated" products are Asia only since the market seems to be faster over there, less shipping and less global ad costs.

It also might indicate that the US have also reached the point of not being a primary market anymore - until now my observation was only the EU didn't get some of the latest phone/computer/... updates but older overstocked versions - the global economy seems to be changing.

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Until now I've laid of getting a better monitor for buying actual camera gear, but I've reached the point of annoyance with my cheap laptop screen (no icc profile, very limited color space) where I fear a purchase is inevitable. When processing slight color nuances of the autumn I'm not able to get satisfactory results, the wb (blue/orange) or tint (cyan/magenta) is always somewhat off w/o a proper color workflow.

I admit I didn't put much research into because the choices seem too confusing to me: What monitor type should I get for a working camera-screen icc workflow?

It would be great to hear some experiences or be pointed to some reviews - it must not be the pro lcd from your dreams which is outside my budget, I'd like to learn about the ~17"-19" "cheapest working solution". Thanks!

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