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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 22, 2013, 01:16:40 PM »
New thought: AF-point linked spot metering. I was just rereading TDP's 1dx review, because I like to taunt myself like that. And I realized that's listed under "1dx advantages over 5d3". Any chance of the 7d2 getting this?

I somehow doubt it because the reason why the 1dx has it and the 5d3 hasn't is the different metering system - so for the 7d2 with supposedly a more complex af system as the 7d Canon would also have to add another completely new metering system. Of course they could if they wanted to, but one the one hand it'd drive up the costs for sure.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Transition from Nikon to Canon
« on: February 22, 2013, 11:28:04 AM »
1. I am stuck between 60D and 650D & in my country 650D is 130USD less.

Except for the different specs you can research for yourself I'd advise the xxd (60d) for other reasons: The better grip and viewfinder (even better on ff of course) make such a large difference I'd never want to use a xxxd (650d), and if you are somewhat advanced the back dial is very important. If the soon to be replaced 60d is out of your budget then buy a used 550d for much less money, it has the same sensor and also runs Magic Lantern.

3. 50mm 1.8 II, 40mm pancake and 18-55kit lens which will give the sharpest image with the 60d or 650d?

I have the 50/1.8 and almost never use it, it has such a crappy build quality, bokeh and loud/slow af motor. So either get a 40/2.8 or even better look at all the good 3rd party primes like Sigma. Just remember that the 60d or 650d don't have af micro adjustment so you have to buy a copy that doesn't need correction.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:49:15 AM »
I don't mind spending some extra money

Well, I do, but I admit you're the ideal Canon customer :-p ... and you might be in a large company in the "cash cow" high-end enthusiast's (7d2, 6d) or even (semi-)pro (5d3, ...) market.

The only question is if Canon is feeling the pressure from the competitors in the low-end enthusiasts' segment (60d, d7100, k5ii, ...) where Canon is blown away by the competitor's tech, sensor and build specs when comparing prices. That's why I'm interested in the 70d release, even though I'm happy with my 60d and the only way forward for me will be a ff 6d.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 22, 2013, 05:13:26 AM »
Canon ist sleeping. An if they wake up it's perhaps to late.

No, it'll never be too late and Canon knows it - in contrast to for example Microsoft they can change in no time by lowering the price of some models (as they did with the 5d3) and quickly release new cameras (see the fast the 6d was here) and lenses (according to the patents, they must have tons of prototypes) and flashes (440ex anyone?). That's why their making as much money as long as anyone's willing to pay their prices - good for Canon, bad for us.

Hmm, that's interesting what you say about .NET, I have spent some time on the other side (Java) and I used to think that .NET applications were prolific giving us much trouble.

.NET is a very good tech, the problem is simply that just like Java it's a bytecode language that is tuned for desktop or server environments and not for powersaving mobile devices - and Microsoft just pulled the plug for the .NET Desktop-only front-end WPF & the .NET-derivative Silverlight without shedding a tear for all the devs who put their career into it.

Same with Canon: To turn around they would have to break some eggs, i.e. undercutting current cameras with a new model that is cheaper *and* is overall "better" - and looking at the 6d specs they don't want to do that, not until the competition from Nikon actually affects their profits. In this spirit: go, Nikon, go :-)

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Software & Accessories / Re: AFMA advice sought
« on: February 22, 2013, 03:09:26 AM »
Another Focal pro user here.  It works better than any other method I have tried.

Fyi: Another Magic Lantern user here, and the latest dev build has automatic afma tuning (for the time being 5d2, but I'm sure other cameras will follow) :-) ... https://bitbucket.org/hudson/magic-lantern/commits/6cf3c98700f4b659215d14ede8d6fe15eeca2e81

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 22, 2013, 02:43:25 AM »
I'm well aware of the parallels to Microsoft, another conservative company.   Just because it happened once, doesn't mean it will happen again; by the same token, just because it happened to another company doesn't mean Canon will learn from that lesson.  Usually, changes like this don't happen overnight.  Obviously, Microsoft did not respond to those changes appropriately for their business.  It remains to be seen how Canon will respond to a declining marketshare, but of course, first that marketshare has to actually decline.

That's an interesting comparison because I do know one thing or two about Microsoft because I worked as a programmer for a MS Gold Certified partner some time, gaining insight how that company works - and it's not like Canon.

Microsoft has missed main developments again and again like the Internet or the mobile market - *but* they were always able to turn around 180 degrees and renew themselves like with Internet Explorer and now semi-abandoning WPF/.NET/Silverlight and multiple other technologies that they promoted for years a the future way. That always left a lot of victims in the M$ crowd who weren't able to turn around as fast as their tech base did, but it saved Microsoft until now.

Canon seems to be conservative because they lack imagination, while Microsoft is conservative because they use their "embrace, extend and extinguish" strategy (at least up to now) which needs a lot of time to work, i.e. pinning people to M$ tech.

I'm keen to see if Canon will be able to turn around from their strong product differentiation (high price or low features/quality) strategy in case they face a problem down the road, but on the other hand maybe they just did with the eos-m and we didn't notice until mirrorless reaches the old school dlsr segment with the cash cow customer base (that's us).

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Lighting / Re: Weird ettl ec behavior - is this just me?
« on: February 22, 2013, 02:39:18 AM »
Depends on how you define RGB-metering. The iFCL-capable cameras are actually dichromates, not the best color sensitivity, but a rough idea instead of color blindness. Basically they can detect red and blue, but green and white look the same to them.

Ok, didn't know that, thanks - I'm always learning a lot here :-)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Too early to sell 60D?
« on: February 21, 2013, 02:50:05 PM »
The question I have is this; I have recently watched the new/second-hand price of my camera go down a few hundred dollars and I was wondering if anyone believes that with the release of the next in line, will my 60D drop in resale value again or would I be relatively safe to wait and sell when the new one comes out?

Imho the 60d has dropped a lot already, I don't think the 70d/7d2 release will have much impact because both newer cameras will be significantly more expensive - to predict what will happen look at the 40d->50d->60d used prices when the updates were released - if it's a good camera body (and the 60d is) then it'll keep much value.

That's because a 60d will still have better usability than any upcoming Rebel, and most people can do a lot with the 60d (including me) and don't really need a 70d/7d2 with maybe +1/2-1.0 stop better iso. With regular large prints you're the exception to the rule and in all honesty should be saving for a Nikon d800.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 01:47:55 PM »
Check Amazon.com for all of the 1-star [worst] ratings that Nikon is getting from buyers of the D600 and D800.

I often read Amazon reviews, but you have to forget about 5-star ratings ("everything is great! I'm the next employee of the month in viral marketing!") and 1-star ("I couldn't find the power switch" or "I was too dumb to read the specs!").

So I just had a look at German Amazon 6d & d600: The few factual complaints about the 6d were the known weak specs, and about the d600 concerning the oil smeared sensors - but overall both rated very positive, because of course both are excellent cameras if you ignore the "value" and "is it worth it" aspect.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Too early to sell 60D?
« on: February 21, 2013, 12:53:43 PM »
Normally, I don't like to buy the latest/greatest until it has had a bit of time on the market to iron out bugs and such, but I am sick of the ISO performance of the 60D and can't afford to go to a Mk3 and I have no interest in the 6D.

That leaves you with one option: win the lottery. If you are really that limited by the current 18mp sensor, even if using all the available tricks like fast lenses and ettr then the next higher mp sensor won't satisfy you either. The real question with aps-c is always: What's the final export size, and if it's not 100% then you can get away with higher iso - the dynamic range of the 60d is just mostly like 6d or 5d3.

But more on topic: Canon hasn't even *announced* the 70d or 7d2, and given Canon's latest track record it might be a while afterwards until worldwide availability, not to mention the usual €200 early adopters premium that is lifted after 2-3 months.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 12:33:33 PM »
Canon actually markets the 6d as an entry level landscape camera...for 2k.

Sure, because for landscape you don't need af at all :-)

One cross point.>:( :( :o Even the 650d has 9 cross points. Wither, canon.

This is when I usually mention that the 6d has no (0, zero) cross points at f2.8 but just a non-cross overlay over a less precise cross sensor. The whole af system seems to be a 99% copy from the 5d2 with two more points added in the gaps, saving Canon development cost and time.

I really hope the pressure from Nikon forces Canon to get a grip again, and the Canon CEO already stated in the recent interview that the 7d2 won't be just the 7d with better specs - so I'm still waiting for the real news.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 21, 2013, 01:40:48 AM »
D7100 in the mix: -- let's take a quick first look

Esp. with the crop mode from aps-c the 24mp d7100 will be a budget sports/wildlife shooter's dream, looking at Canon's latest innovations I somehow doubt that they'll put something equivalent in the 7d2 but more likely they'll try keep selling their tele lenses :-o

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1.3x Crop Mode - Sports photographers take note: Building upon the telephoto benefits of the DX-format, the D7100 has the unique ability to shoot in a 1.3x DX crop mode for both stills and HD video. While in this innovative mode, shooters will gain an extra telephoto boost (2X), and a boost in burst speed to seven fps, with 15.4- megapixel resolution. Additionally, while in this mode, the 51-point AF array covers more of the frame, allowing improved subject acquisition and tracking performance through the viewfinder.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 01:36:41 AM »
Disappointed.

Yes, it's more a 70d (my guess $1400+, iif it even exists) equivalent ... but disappointing? For $1200?! Starting Price! This is so economical I first thought it would be a typo - probably that's why Canon will expand the ff route like their CEO recently said, more money to be made in the high-end enthusiast's segment. The only positive news for Canon: The d7100 will be sold out for months, so Canon will have some time to counter.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Nikon 7100 has been anounced
« on: February 21, 2013, 12:49:03 AM »
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/


There's some more detailed information here:

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New 51-Point AF System - The D7100 features Nikon’s professionally proven and lightning-fast 51-point AF system, with a new Multi-CAM 3500DX AF module. Additionally, the AF system and exposure are augmented with Nikon’s 3D Color Matrix Metering II 2,016-pixel RGB sensor and Scene Recognition System, which recognizes the scene prior to shooting in order to adjust AF, AE, AWB and other parameters. The results of this system are accurate and even exposures, sharp details and vivid color, frame after frame. For additional precision, 15 of the 51 AF points are cross-type, and the center point is functional at f/8, giving DX photographers an additional telephoto advantage when using a teleconverter.


So f8 af and rgb metering? Let's see if Canon will put these 1dx-features in the 7d2... but the really interesting point driving the water to may eyes (7d2 estimated >$2000...):

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The Nikon D7100 will be available starting in March 2013 for the suggested retail price (SRP) of $1599.95* with the AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6 VR lens or $1199.95 for the body only configuration.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]
« on: February 20, 2013, 07:56:49 PM »
I wouldn't go around stating these specifications as fact, but I wouldn't simply discount them off-hand either. It's a rumor, and its a pretty decent one...the best we have at the moment.

The question is how the internal Canon decision hierarchy is - it'd be interesting to know, but of course no one will tell. I guess the final say on the gear to be produced is either made by accounting (estimated profit, i.e. mainly production cost flavored with some marketing thoughts) and/or by the top execs if it's a strategic decision.

The recent interview about the 7d2 might let us hope that Canon tries to make a big splash this time to make up for the recent lack of user's enthusiasm, so the 7d2 might really come out with a lot of features at a "reasonable"  price - but then again it might just have been a decoy to gain time because Canon is behind in the sensor race.

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