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EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:40:47 AM »
That's where the 70d comes it: it has a "dumbed down" af system and might be inferior to a rumored 7d2
I expect that the extra AF modes will be enabled via firmware on the 70d but not until the 7d gets replaced or discontinued.

Don't count on that happening, I wouldn't advise buying a 70d expecting an af feature update that brings it up to the 7d1 level - Canon is not in the habit of doing *any* updates on the xxd cameras, they're to be sold and used "as is".

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Software & Accessories / Re: DxO optics Pro 9 Prime noise reduction speed
« on: December 18, 2013, 01:45:45 AM »
However, export to jpeg seems horribly slow.

You do realize that the prime computation is delayed/scheduled? If you select it, the shot gets the cyan "prime" band in the lower film stip, but the "gear" icon on the top right. The noise reduction isn't done until the gear turns into a check mark, maybe that's what you have to wait for when exporting the image because it wasn't done before? Just guessing of course, but 15sec sounds too fast to be true.

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Software & Accessories / Re: DxO optics Pro 9 Prime noise reduction speed
« on: December 17, 2013, 04:51:42 PM »
But, the PRIME is oh so slow, taking about 4 minutes per FF raw on my MacBook retina Pro. Has anyone found a way of speeding it up?

A faster GPU is said to accelerate it - but if it makes you feel better: On the laptop I use for my postprocssing a singe shot takes 15-20 minutes to process :-p ... so DxO won't replace LR anytime soon for me.

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it LOOKS pretty primitive -- most likely just a simple, single LED.  A far cry from the AF grid that the 600EX-RT skeets out.

This probable is bad news for 5d3 users as that's what the 600rt's af assist beam is designed for - for the rest of us budget shooters like with "center point only" 6d I hope the simple design is good enough and certainly better than Canon's nil solution.

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Lenses / Re: Another strike against UV filters
« on: December 17, 2013, 03:59:08 PM »
Had these people had lens hoods on, there's a very good chance their filter rings wouldn't have been dented.

True enough, though the hood on an uwa (or pancake 40mm) is not long enough to offer sufficient protection, you don't need a nail to get to the glass, a stone is more than enough - so I'd always use a filter there, in addition to the lens sealing requiring it.

Personally, I also use clear b+w filters on my other lenses simply because I feel they are easier to clean than the lens front itself. I often quickly store the lens with the hood reversed in a less-than-suitable place like my jacket pocket, and lens caps tend to fall off or disappear altogether :-) so my filters often get dirty or dusty.

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Nine points all cross point would not have threatened the 5D Mark III much, but would have encouraged a lot more people to make the move to FF and further commit to eos/ef.

Personally, I think *one* cross point with f2.8 precision would have been enough to redeem the 6d, and I agree Canon went over the top here with inter-company product differentiation and recycling used 5d2 parts.

I belong to two photography clubs, one a PPA affiliate, the other a great group of enthusiasts who produce great fine art and nature work.  Nobody thought the 6D was well thought out for any level of photographer

I take it your photography clubs are in Palm Springs or Bel Air :-) ... you're buddies are missing the point here, €3000 is a hilarious amount of money for a dslr *body* not only considering the absolute price tag, but what (better) lens you can get with the money saved if you go 6d. It is thought out for the level of photographer that can make do with sub-optimal gear an concentrates on the content, and that would include me. Speaking of which, the 5d3 is full of shortcomings, too - if you want adequate, go 1dx :->

My prediction:  The 6D will have one of the shortest production cycles of any Canon SLR.  Perhaps THE shortest.

My prediction: The exact opposite. The 6d is the "real" successor to the long-running landscape/still 5d2 and is comprised of a lot of old (and cheap) parts, unfortunately including the af system. It is only marketed as what it is by Canon, it excels in low light still shooting, and has more than "enough" resolution.

There is absolutely no reason for Canon to exchange it as long people keep buying it, and they will, as the af system's faults are not obvious at first sight, but the stunning iq of the sensor is. They might, just might "update" it with the dual pixel af, but keeping the rest about the same - if Canon exchanges and innovates, they'll do it with the 7d2, 5d4 and 1dxs.

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So the 6D cannot be good for any pro work with its AF system?

Did anyone really say that? If so, it's clearly incorrect - but your nice mock-ups demonstrate what you have to do: focus on a contrast part in good light so that the non-cross sensor point can lock on - or it will get unreliable, meaning sometimes it'll hunt. And in your shots, you toke a sane decision - track with the center point, and only the center point.

The thing about the non-center 6d points is that they're "nice to have" and a convenience, but hardly necessary: They only have f5.6 precision, meaning you shouldn't use them with a faster lens than for example your 24-105/4 and go for 100% crop viewing/printing. But at this dof, focus & recompose would most likely achieve the same result.

When outer points would become really necessary (tracking, fast lenses) they tend to fail on the 6d, meaning you'll get better results with center point focus & recompose as the outer points are so near the center anyway.

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Lenses / Re: Another strike against UV filters
« on: December 17, 2013, 12:48:17 PM »
I personally don't, but it is quite common knowledge if you throw it in a search engine and there are plenty of samples comparisons online.

This approach to get valid information is rather courageous if you don't mind me saying so :-> ... you will also find proof that aliens rule the world or every other theory you might come up with.

And they don't .

... because some smart people might ask Canon if each lens they sell requires a separate Canon screw-in "protector", why don't they add it right away?

Also repairing lenses because the front element is damaged brings much more revenue to Canon's service than competing with other quality filter suppliers (or license them to put "Canon" on them) - ever wondered why car bumpers are painted?


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So... here's my question... is there a technique for shooting in the dark?  the 580 has the IR beams, but at that distance, they didn't do squat...

6d (-3LV vf) or Magic Lantern - the latter has a "night view" mode that boosts the live view display so you can manually focus in near-darkness.

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Lenses / Re: Which 70-200?
« on: December 17, 2013, 02:21:43 AM »
I loved my 200/2.8 for quality and size but always found it limiting because it's such a specific scope. I know why people love the technical abilities of a 70-200/2.8 and I'd get one... except that they are huge and heavy and I know I wouldn't take it with me too much of the time.

One remark: It's not just the absolute weight and bulk of the "internal zoom" 70-200 lens types and esp. the f2.8 that might be a problem, but the combination of both because a long *and* heavy lens creates a lot of torsion on the wrist as it works as a lever.

The 70-300 is much thicker but shorter when zoomed in and thus the weight is nearer to the camera, making it much more pleasant to carry around ´... when in doubt try both in a shop.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 16, 2013, 03:08:36 PM »
The trick Canon are missing here is:
1. Take the 1D4
2. Remove the badge and stick a 7D2 badge on it (or 7D Sport)
3. Sell it for $2500

It would be awesome if they did it and it would be possible, but my guess is that the 1d series actually use expensive parts that result in the well-known and infamous price of these things :-\ ... that's why the 1d bodies even when used a lot still sell for horrendous prices.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Thinking Out Loud: EOS 7D Mark II Thoughts
« on: December 16, 2013, 02:33:50 PM »
Let's just see, what Canon marketing is deciding...

Considering this is a "flagship" model, it is expected and longed for for a very long time, and the target crowd includes enthusiasts with deep pockets I bet they'll put a very large early adopter's premium on it... as long as it's below a 5d3+longer tele lens it'll find enough buyers @€2000+

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D compensating in manual mode
« on: December 16, 2013, 02:29:38 PM »
I put Magic Lantern on the 6D some day to try it out, probably activated Expo Lock by accident.

You're welcome, ML is very feature-rich and it's easy to get confused :-> ... when in doubt try w/o ML to debug, press SET while the camera boots.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: The Unthinkable: Swapped out 5D3 for 6D
« on: December 16, 2013, 02:28:13 PM »
I didn't realize lensrentals had similar findings with the 24-70ii. Will have to look that up.

They didn't say the lens isn't good on 5d2/6d, but that the recent "closed loop" speed & precision improvement of the latest lenses  (24-70ii, 70-300L) are currently only used by the 1dx & 5d3 af system... with other cameras you might as well grab a 24-70 mk1 as far as precision goes.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Not Coming? [CR1]
« on: December 16, 2013, 02:24:24 PM »
We really don't NEED an EVF to achieve really kick-ass things...

Well, you don't strictly "need" 90% of what a dslr does - but looking at how many threads are about thin dof, af and how to focus I'd say focus peaking in an evf is a breakthrough for anything faster than f2.8.

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