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The big problem I foresee is that the DOF is TINY TINY TINY

... that's why there's focus stacking, and you'll be surprised how little time it takes to use up all shutter cycles of your dlsr :-p

I had to boost the saturation/clarity/NR and darken the blacks to hide the horizontal noise bands... a 5D3 would be a much better camera for this I believe.

Why don't you use hdr bracketing? You can instantly save $3000 by not needing the 5d3!

Reviews / Re: dpreview 6d test data
« on: January 17, 2013, 06:05:12 PM »
I tought this might be interresting.

Thanks for the link, I really wonder what's keeping them, probably either they have encountered some problem while reviewing the 6d or they think the 6d is not very hot so it's ok to postpone the full review - let's see...

Lenses / Re: How many times did you return (L) lenses to get a good copy?
« on: January 17, 2013, 06:00:15 PM »
I just bought a new 17-40L, and I'm happy that I didn't get it from ebay because the lens shows visible decentering

... a quick reply to my own thread if anyone cares:

I just got the replacement 17-40L and it's a lot better with equal performance on all sides, thus I'd really advise anyone interested in good lens performance to do some quick chart shots and look for decentering - imho a €670 L lens must not have this problem.

I wonder how many people, in a "blind" test, could tell the difference (and how many of those who have remarked on the softness of 6D images were looking at images from RAW files).

According to a good German review 6d/5d3 on traumflieger the difference is visible when shooting details like a fern with tiny leaves - and of course they used raw files. But again, nothing very important if not shooting specialized shots like product shots or maybe some architecture.

So what 's your preference 5D3 or 6D after using them?

You didn't ask me, but here's my 2ct anyway :-p after a 3/4 hour side-to-side comparison in a shop just now: The 5d3 is clearly the more professional camera with absolutely superior af - though for some reason or another the 7d grip fits my hand better than the 5d3, 6d is also just fine.

But all things considered, the 5d3 is just like the 6d a typical Canon dslr, I doubt my current shots would improve that much when getting the higher spec'ed camera. So there's no way I'd spend nearly €3000 for a camera body with a soon-to-be-replaced sensor if I'm note having a guaranteed return of invest like a pro would.

And last not least I'm more used to the 60d-style multicontroller and always feel like there's the buttons missing on the wheel - but that would certainly change sooner or later when using a 7d/5d2/5d3-type.

Disclaimer: Of course I would buy a 5d3 for the 6d price or exchange my 70-300L for the 70-200Lii for free.

i guess the 6D has a stronger AA filter then the other two cameras.

Looking at the 6d moiré, it doesn't seem to be the aa filter but that 6d has more forced noise reduction even in raw, thus the large difference in chroma noise to the 5d3. The result is about 1/3 stop more usable iso but with a visible loss of sharpness - both not important enough as a deciding factor, but it adds to the list.

... and +1 for not countering a tech discussion with "get a life, got out and shoot more" - that mixing apples and oranges with an insulting tendency because obviously even the "anti-gearheads" read these tech threads or they wouldn't be able to post replies.

Btw: I added the fact to the above list that the 6d has a high(er) dr vs. the Canon counterparts, but of course is sunk by any current Nikon sensor - see

Site Information / Re: Problem with the Canonrumors Website
« on: January 17, 2013, 03:18:37 PM »
No, there is no Spyware, Virus or Worm and I do know that for a fact as I have more than enough experience with computer security to know the difference.

I wasn't really suggesting that the source of your problem is spyware, but couldn't help to post an off-topic remark concerning your certainty because I as a somewhat it-security nerd doubt that the fancier kind of spyware like government trojans are easily recognized - but those probably won't mess up CR :-p

Maybe Magic Lantern will release a firmware that gives back the higher fps.

Very unlikely, Canon has surely designed the camera so that the hard specs cannot be easily circumvented - and the 6d port of ml has still trouble with the memory design of the 6d, so let's wait and see how it turns out at all. But I guess the 6d *could* do more fps, maybe Canon does a fw update in 2016 like recently on the 7d :->

Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« on: January 17, 2013, 12:36:53 PM »
One day one of you guys will actually take some photos  ;)
"...... and the old and rather crappy 50/1.4......."

Actually I was refering to the micro usm on the lens which I found annoying when I tried it (as a potential replacement for my 50/1.8). Btw I am not a big fan of the "get out and shoot" reasoning to prove a point - all discussed gear is ok to good and of course good shots can be taken with it, that doesn't prevent me from looking at the rather minor differences anyway when deciding what to buy.

Time to dial back and concentrate on taking pictures again, not on spending money and talking about it.  Know what I mean?

Absolutely, esp. since a camera body the item to loose value fastest. But since I'm hoping to get some money out of this sooner or later, I'm even more pressed to get alleged "pro" equipment though I start to realize that for 90% of the shots the photog/postprocessing really makes the difference save some specialized settings like sports where precise tracking is most important. And I've come to evaluate non-"core" equipment (i.e. next to body+lenses) as more important, and that has also to be paid.

I think a major issue is this has been basically ignored at both DPreview and Fred Miranda. DPreview has surprised me as they usually latch on to these things like a Pit Bull.

My only explanation is that for the bug to show some less likely circumstances have to meet, like maybe some lens/distance/ambient light combinations while many other people maybe either shoot in good light (no af assist neeeded) or in pitch black darkness (af assist seems to work)? Not everyone shoots weddings or low light events...

Off topic, too: For peace of mind, it's best not to think of any other dslrs or competing brands out there.
Somehow, this made me a little bit sad. :(

If I think of the 6d specs, I'm simply annoyed because Canon seems to have patched it together in a week just to somehow counter the d600, but since I won't jump ship at least for now due to Magic Lantern it's really best to concentrate on the pictures :-p

Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« on: January 16, 2013, 09:20:03 PM »
As you can se, 50/1,2 are less sharp than 50/1.4  at F-1,4

You have to select the 2nd 50L sample, the first one is a "bad copy":

The center is better on the 50L and there is less haze in shots i've taken from the 50L vs the 1.4.

Somehow the intra-Canon dogfight between the 50L and the old and rather crappy 50/1.4 seems a little strange to me, if there is a cheaper alternative it'd be the Sigma:

I also used a portion of the savings to scoop up an EF 85mm f/1.8 which I am really enjoying too.

Well, this is off topic, but I'm putting the saved money into a 17-40L, a flash bracket/diffuser and nd + polarizer filters that are incredibly expensive for 82mm - after long considerations that should result in better (at least more versatile) pictures than getting the most shiny camera body which is like burning cash.

But I wish everyone with a 5d3 luck solving this problem, if Canon should really ignore things like this and get away it's not good for any Canon shooter.

2143 should be considered as 1point AF camera.

I partly disagree, it simply depends on the possibility of re-taking the shot or not - for "mission critical" shots the outer af points are probably out of the question, but if you want less focus & recompose with shallow dof and then review/retake the "extra" 10 points should be nice to have. And for tracking in good light it's most likely better to select more af points because the camera interpolates between them and single point af might loose focus faster.

Off topic, too: For peace of mind, it's best not to think of any other dslrs or competing brands out there.

I would love to be wrong and see some major changes in the next firmware release!!

The next 5d3 firmware release is scheduled for sometime in April (2013 afaik :-)) - maybe they'll do a silent fix by then, let's wait and see ... but I've decided to save the €1000 and get a 6d anyway, so for me it's more like general interest in Canon reacting or not.

Considering the amount of posts and information that is already here in this thread and several other threads, what do you think the chances are that someone from Canon that is reading the posts on the Canon forum might simply click over and read  the CR threads if the links are posted on their forum?  Just sayin'...

Personally I doubt the really important people who could actually fix things (i.e. the Japanese devs) read the US Canon forum either - with the lack of easy reproducibility some really important photog or tester would have to step on their toes so they actually try to provoke the problem, otherwise the "don't ask, don't tell" solution comes to mind... some mod in the Canon forum writing some comforting words imho doesn't mean anything.

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