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Canon General / Re: soon to be a 'Canon/DSLR newbie' here!
« on: December 05, 2012, 03:38:50 AM »
6D is weather sealed.  60D isn't. 

It isn't as simple as that - sealing is not a binary value - its Rebels < 60D < 6D < 5D3 < 1D ... I don't know how the 7d does in comparison to the 6d. The 60d has some sealing (but not at the lens mount point, so with an L lens it's only one side), but I shot in light rain with no problems. The added sealing on the 6d wouldn't make me confident enough to actually shoot in prolonged rain, and even 5d3 users broke their camera doing that - so water "sealing" is more for the peace of mind, for actual "safety" you'll need a 1d body.

Thus dust sealing is more important to me, and in this category even the 60d should do ok (unless non-sealed lenses, esp. zooms which will attract dust and sand like a magnet).

I can confirm full power at 1/250 sync speed and complete HSS range up to 1/8000 on the 1Ds MkIII.

Looking at Canon's corporate policy during the last years, I dare to say that niceness is not on top of their priority list, it probably isn't even in the dictionary :-o ... but "professional support" surely is, so if seasoned photogs request ttl flash support or maybe even group flash it might, just might have a chance to be heard.

I guess Canon might introduce rt triggers for studio flashes sooner or later, but the question is when and I'm sure a trigger will be nearly as expensive as a full flash. Or maybe someone succeeds at reverse engineering the rt protocol and 3rd party alternatives will be offered...

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D High ISO Noise Tests
« on: December 04, 2012, 12:51:59 PM »
D6 looks little bit cleaner than 5dmk3 and you can se that in a raw file and high iso and  due the slower readout Canon has probably increased the DR at base iso a little bit

Is this just a guess or are 6d dr comparisons to 5d2/5d3 available somewhere? Btw, if what you say is true dr should be higher on the slow continuous or 3fps silent setting?

Now, why don't they just bring in a flash control firmware upgrade for some of the pre 2012 bodies? Yes they want to sell gear, but Annie Leibowitz, amongst many high end pros, is still shooting the 1Ds MkIII because there is no better Canon body option yet, they could be selling so many more Speedlites if they would make the upgrade process more seamless.

Afaik the 600rt work on all pre-2012 bodies just fine (even at full hss speed over radio, this is confirmed for the 5d2, don't know about others) even if Canon says otherwise. The only things missing is rt control from the camera's gui (do it on the flash) and the group flash feature - the latter seems the purely-pro item Canon wants to sell with a camera body upgrade.

But as I wrote above, Canon's strategy appears to be strangely lagged for budget (430ex2 successor) flash sets or studio setups.

We’re told Canon could be announcing two new Speedlites in the first or early second quarter of 2013.

Knowing Canon, that's probably end of June 2013... the transition to the rt tech is disappointing, still no remote 2nd curtain sync and obviously they wanted to sell as many expensive 600rt as possible before introducing "cheaper" (i.e. $400+ I guess) versions.

The one interesting information would be to know if there will be rt triggers for dumb (studio) flashes or at least for older speedlites...

I would like to pay with HDR, but not sure where to start.

Photomatrix is excellent at assembling handheld brackets and has the superior wysiwyg interface so you can play around, plus it does hdr and exposure fusion - much better than any oss I've tried. The alternative is a plugin from the Photomatrix company to assemble shots and then use the image in Lightroom4, best for the "realistic" look and to use the good ol' Lightroom workflow. Photoshop is as always superior when you know what you're doing, but the difference imho is seldom worth it unless you're pro shooting for the Times Magazine's cover.

So if you're not on the road and/or want to get a quick hdr to show to your mom, imho forget in-camera hdr, the only advantage on the 5d3 is that you end up with a smaller raw picture in comparison to 16bit tif or even floating point tif.

Lenses / Re: Advice 5d3, wide angle
« on: December 04, 2012, 11:41:39 AM »
I am happy to post full res files but need a suggestion on where to do it.

I'd be interested in the quality loss to - upload full size jpeg to or if you happen to speak German, then you can link directly to it. If you want to share the raw files use any sharehoster like rapidshare or one of the trillions of clones.

EOS Bodies / Re: Can't find a pro review of the 6D yet
« on: December 04, 2012, 10:19:29 AM »
but they did not want to comment about the AF or the sensor

Esp. af is difficult to review since phase af is a hit-or-miss tech anyway, so you need to have enough sample shots with multiple lenses in different lightings to come to a valid conclusion. As for the sensor, I think this pretty much covers it until a final raw converter is out:

But still nobody who is having a problem is posting EV information!

Or how slow exactly "slow" is in seconds :-p ... but really it shouldn't be that hard for Canon to reproduce if they set their mind on it ... or they already have and discovered they won't be able to fix it? Anyway, I hope the matter gets cleared up before I finally decide if to get the 6d or 5d3 :-o

On the subject of distance information, I have found it to be wildly off on many occasions

On the newer lenses 70-300L and 100L it's indeed precise, at least for the shots I had a look at.

Lenses / Re: Torn between 2 lenses
« on: December 04, 2012, 08:37:07 AM »
I think, most people here including me recommended the 17-55 from personal experience

I didn't wanted to state that the advice isn't valid, but often I find that the reasons given *why* lens xyz is "the best" or the "the one to get" are seldom given, so someone inquiring has little chance of deciding if it's "worth it" to him/her. You gave good reasons for the 17-55, other reasons favor other lenses (zoom range, size, weight, last not least price), so it's often a matter of preference esp. if the af and iq are decent on all possible choices.

I've been shooting with an old 28-105/3.5-4.5 lens for the last decade, and I have to say that with the current 18mp sensor I don't think a little more light of f2.8 would make much of difference, it's not sufficient for available light shooting indoors with people anyway (except if downsizing a lot) - imho for full res you need either a faster prime or (currently) a ff sensor.

Lenses / Re: Torn between 2 lenses
« on: December 04, 2012, 07:10:25 AM »
Have you considered the 15-85? I know it is slower but you will get wider and longer shots from it. If I had stayed on crop (had they released the 7D2 when they released the 5D3...), I would have got the 15-85.

Same for me - if I'd stay on crop, the lighter and newer 15-85 would be the lens for me - larger zoom range, great iq, excellent value. Look at your shots and determine if you really need constant f2.8 with the thin dof (you've got the 50/1.4 after all), a wider angle accepts lower shutter speeds.

Btw, I know it's an unusual advice in a high budget enthusiast forum apart from the general "just get the most expensive" no matter what :->

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:52:18 AM »
As for 6D, I am sure that it is a professional camera all things considered.

Absolutely, it certainly can be used this way - and it's good to know the Reuters figures so I/we can quote that when people say you need at least a 5d3 to make a dime. But still, concerning the missed shots, I've just studied too much statistics to say that the *af* system must be good based on the 5d2 usage, probably it'd be the same amount of 5d2 if it only had mf...

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:26:25 AM »
I don't know but what I do know is that they got the shots that they wanted at the end of the day.  ;)

But you don't know about the hundreds of pro photogs that never made it to the photo of the year contest because they had the scene of their life in front of them, their af missed, and then it was gone .. and the ranking doesn't compare camera used to scene type (static or action).

Maybe the high 5d2 percentage is because it's not as large as the 1d (mostly horizontal shots in the contest) and/or had good mp count (in 2007), and generally as a pro you are hesitant to change your gear. Plus the 5d2 is not that expensive (important for journalists in developing countries) and easier replaced when broken, two points that are also valid for the 6d.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 5Dmk3 doesnt play with kenko teleconverters
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:03:13 AM »
I just tested this with 5D III, 100L, and Kenko 1.4x "blue dot," and nope, it still doesn't work

... which again brings me to the conclusion that Kenko might do silent updates to their tc line w/o changing the "spot color" designation ... they probably don't want to dump loads of tc w/o being able to update the old ones when releasing this information.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D vs 5D MKII (Focusing?)
« on: December 04, 2012, 02:59:07 AM »
I don't think Roger Cicala was being consistent in the above article.

I'm not saying that he is wrong (and the lineup seems logical), but he only used one lens and also was fairly quick with the 6d af test - more samples might have given another sd, because looking at the graph there are 1-2 shots very much out of bounds which have been non-representative. But the main point remains: Very usable (center only), better than 5d2, worse than 5d3.

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