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Lenses / Re: Torn between 2 lenses
« on: December 04, 2012, 07:10:25 AM »
Have you considered the 15-85? I know it is slower but you will get wider and longer shots from it. If I had stayed on crop (had they released the 7D2 when they released the 5D3...), I would have got the 15-85.

Same for me - if I'd stay on crop, the lighter and newer 15-85 would be the lens for me - larger zoom range, great iq, excellent value. Look at your shots and determine if you really need constant f2.8 with the thin dof (you've got the 50/1.4 after all), a wider angle accepts lower shutter speeds.

Btw, I know it's an unusual advice in a high budget enthusiast forum apart from the general "just get the most expensive" no matter what :->

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:52:18 AM »
As for 6D, I am sure that it is a professional camera all things considered.

Absolutely, it certainly can be used this way - and it's good to know the Reuters figures so I/we can quote that when people say you need at least a 5d3 to make a dime. But still, concerning the missed shots, I've just studied too much statistics to say that the *af* system must be good based on the 5d2 usage, probably it'd be the same amount of 5d2 if it only had mf...

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:26:25 AM »
I don't know but what I do know is that they got the shots that they wanted at the end of the day.  ;)

But you don't know about the hundreds of pro photogs that never made it to the photo of the year contest because they had the scene of their life in front of them, their af missed, and then it was gone .. and the ranking doesn't compare camera used to scene type (static or action).

Maybe the high 5d2 percentage is because it's not as large as the 1d (mostly horizontal shots in the contest) and/or had good mp count (in 2007), and generally as a pro you are hesitant to change your gear. Plus the 5d2 is not that expensive (important for journalists in developing countries) and easier replaced when broken, two points that are also valid for the 6d.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 5Dmk3 doesnt play with kenko teleconverters
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:03:13 AM »
I just tested this with 5D III, 100L, and Kenko 1.4x "blue dot," and nope, it still doesn't work

... which again brings me to the conclusion that Kenko might do silent updates to their tc line w/o changing the "spot color" designation ... they probably don't want to dump loads of tc w/o being able to update the old ones when releasing this information.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D vs 5D MKII (Focusing?)
« on: December 04, 2012, 02:59:07 AM »
I don't think Roger Cicala was being consistent in the above article.

I'm not saying that he is wrong (and the lineup seems logical), but he only used one lens and also was fairly quick with the 6d af test - more samples might have given another sd, because looking at the graph there are 1-2 shots very much out of bounds which have been non-representative. But the main point remains: Very usable (center only), better than 5d2, worse than 5d3.

EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: December 04, 2012, 02:55:03 AM »
These photographers (using 5D2) have no issues with their AF either.

... but you never know how many shots they dumped because the af missed, phase af performance is not just about speed but also about precision and consistency.

Interesting, my experience has been quite the opposite with regards Canon RAW files, I find over exposure very easy to recover but under exposure will hurt you, Nikon RAW files are completely the other way around

Interesting about Nikon (though I know they use the "active d lighting" vs canon's htp). You are certainly correct that Canon raw files have great potential for highlight recovery, I do it all the time and that's because I shoot raw, but of course only up to a point. But my experience with outdoors action scenes shooting against the sun @high iso (= low dr) is that when downsizing for web you can always get around low shadow resolution, but clipped highlights stay clipped highlights.

All cameras have a lightmeter, all you need to know is the aperture, shutter speed, and iso to work out the EV.

But not as precise as the data in the file which has one decimal place ... and I think the lv value in the file might not be biased by your selected metering (spot, ...), but I have to admit that I don't know that for sure. Plus as I wrote above the file has the subject distance which seems to be vital to the problem.

I am sorry you took offense to that, but exposure has always been the number one skill of a photographer

Indeed, and another skill has been to deal with the limitation of equipment - and given a constantly changing high dr scene and a limited dr sensor I'd rather underexpose than end up with blown highlights. But I know seasoned photogs say you just need experience and then take one shot .. but somehow I am still doubtful, because one of these guys recently told me he never needs to crop his shots because he always frames them perfectly in the vf. With a prime. Without moving a step. Yeah, right - sounds like spreading fishermens' tales to me.

Now, echelonphoto, at what EV are you having specific problems with your 5D MkIII and 600EX-RT?

To post something on topic: Since few people nowadays run around with lightmeters (shame, what happened to the good ol' ways?) the "Light Value" data is inside the files, you can get the information for example using exiftool. Or just send the raw to Canon ... the subject distance is in there, too and multiple other data that might matter.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: T4i vs 60D comparisons
« on: December 03, 2012, 06:06:43 PM »
1. ISO in between settings. T4i only has 400, 800, 1600
3. Do miss the rear wheel dial a bit.

Fyi: Once Magic Lantern is available for the 650d intermediate iso steps should be available (I didn't try though, I've got a 60d) ... that's a plus for the 60d: It runs ml now. Btw, all your preferences are rather individual and according to shooting habits and circumstances - but for me, I'd never want to do without a top lcd and back wheel which I use with every other shot. If shooting a lot, ergonomics matter more and more - just like the larger viewfinder on full frame.

Lighting / Re: I have an old Sony speedlite and a new Canon 7D
« on: December 03, 2012, 05:59:50 PM »
Ihave an old Sony Speedlite I dug out of a camera bag I've had stores for over a decade.

If it works then only in manual mode (just like older Canon speedlites from the pre-digital eta which only do a-ttl) - so forget it, I tried, it's not worth the hassle. There are no ends of used and 3rd party e-ttl flashes around.

EOS Bodies / Re: Why I'm Asking Santa for a 6D
« on: December 03, 2012, 05:08:49 PM »
I totally agree with you.  This camera isn't aimed for the pros.

Personally I don't care if a product is aimed for amateurs, professionals, my mom or my rabbits - if there are no hard limitations (like too few fps for hardcore sports shooting with available light) then an able photog can work around most issues. Better gear might give a higher keeper rate and of course that matters for professionals from a pure profit standpoint, but that's about it - don't let marketing get you :->

;) If anyone else wants to go give KUDOS to the postings and replies on that thread, it will keep it "front page news" on the Canon forum. ;)

If you did that, you should have come across this message: "Kudos Flood: You have exceeded the limit of 10 kudoed messages per minute." ... so just select the 10 messages that make the most sense to you. I think Canon should react to this issue, and even though I don't have a 5d3 yet I think it is ok to bump the thread for all you posh 5d3 owners :->

EOS Bodies / Re: Asking for 5D III firmware improvements
« on: December 03, 2012, 02:06:06 PM »
Actually...I'll take spot linked metering...but I know that's reserved for 1D's, so :(

Afaik this is a hardware limitation, the 5d3 uses the 7d/6d metering, the 1dx has an entirely different version.

I own a 5D III and I'm very frustrated with some limitation that could be easily fixed with a firmware upgrade.

If it's something that differentiates the 5d3 from the 1dx than your chances of success are slim, unless Canon sees the need to give the 5d3 a boost beyond hdmi & f8. One example of braindead limitations would be the crippled min. shutter speed setting, the 6d also has it only up to 1/250s.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: 5Dmk3 doesnt play with kenko teleconverters
« on: December 03, 2012, 02:02:48 PM »
I think this was already mentioned somewhere in this forum, but the culprit here is some incompatibility with AF microadjusting.

Thanks for the information - if there is some workaround that's one problem less with the 5d3, and if it's really afma it might occur on the 6d as well... I hope somebody will report success or failure with this combination soon.

EOS Bodies / Re: More 6D sample images - with RAW files.
« on: December 03, 2012, 12:29:50 PM »
Depends i suppose, definitely not "crop 800 = FF 6400" though..,

I admit this was a rough guess and maybe exaggerated because I'm so annoyed by the crop sensor's high iso performance. But realistically 2 stops are what I'd definitely expect, so crop 18mp 800 = ff 20mp 3200. The dpreview site has good comparisons across all cameras, I hope they include the 6d soon so that we can really tell.

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