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Lenses / Re: Have $2200 budget which lens(es) to get next?
« on: November 23, 2012, 02:06:19 AM »
I could easily shoot a whole wedding with just these 2 lenses preferably on 2 bodies though

... which leaves me in awe again because it contradicts the eternal knowledge that you can hardly shoot a wedding w/o 70-200/2.8 - and you didn't even include the "standard" 24-70 in your list. Obviously there are two categories of wedding shooters (or weddings), or am I missing something here?

I'd personally expect that unless you shoot in St. Paul's cathedral or the priest hates you and you have to shoot from the back row the tele range is not that essential? And w/o an uwa there could be the problem you cannot shoot 50 people in front of you on the church steps when you stand with your back to a busy street (which is often the case for city churches, at least in Berlin).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Why do you want a FF Mirrorless?
« on: November 23, 2012, 01:59:58 AM »
You'll get an FF mirrorless eventually, but it's either going to be the size of the 5D3

No problem with that - but there is no need for it to be stuffed with mechanical parts or expensive electronics just to be compatible with today's lenses or large hands.

And if it's not heavy enough for balancing the lens or that "expensive" feeling just put some weights in an internal compartment :-> ... though I know that won't work, it's no coincidence car manufacturers spend millions of $$$ on audio-visual design to make closing the car door have the correct (expected, either expensive or cheap) sound :->

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EOS Bodies / Re: What will be the issue with the 6D
« on: November 23, 2012, 01:18:28 AM »
The issue will be too many whiners complaining about it.  :P

As in "All my pictures would be pro-looking and beautiful if I'd have a 5d" :->

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What would you do? Crop or FF
« on: November 22, 2012, 03:49:04 PM »
Unless you really want to shoot sports or track your kids imho the 5d3 would be overkill...
There's the thing...  My 5DII had trouble keeping up with my toddlers. My 7D could, but when they were running around indoors, the high ISOs needed were too noisy.  The 5DIII should address both issues (the 1D X certainly has!).
61pts Advance AF system in 5D III is one of my primary reasons I switched from 5D II to III - perfect for active kids.

Am I missing something here - I did write that to track your kids the 5d3 is the best body, didn't I? The "really" in "If you really want..." was meant as in "not just occasionally once a year".

6D AF tracking doesn't look very promise at all.

In comparison to the 5d3 - of course not. In comparison to the d600 - doh. But except for that, it really depends how the non-center af points on the 6d will do - at least it has 11 points (my 60d: 9) and the firmware does allow for tracking customization (unlike my 60d). We'll only know after the first real life reviews if the 6d will do for tracking in non-critical situations.

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Lenses / Re: Have $2200 budget which lens(es) to get next?
« on: November 22, 2012, 03:30:47 PM »
I would go for 135L + 70-200mm f/4 IS. Then you can use the 70-200 when you need the range and the 135L when you need the extra stops of light or want the bokeh.

If you want a zoom for the range, imho the 70-300L (or something other -300) would be a better choice next to the 135L.

As for the 70-200Lis2 and weight - be sure to try for yourself: Get a 5d2/3, put a 70-200Lis2 on plus a 580ex2/600rt-type flash - it does make a difference, esp. to the torque on the wrist. But if you're going pro for weddings and are not on a budget this probably is the lens to get anyway because the phase af is faster @f2.8, esp. because the 5d3 puts lenses into arbitrary groups (read the manual :-)).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Why do you want a FF Mirrorless?
« on: November 22, 2012, 03:11:59 PM »
- 5: It will happen. ... ... eventually. For now there's no denying that phase-detect is faster than phase-in-sensor and contrast-AF. But with enough R&D it will happen.

... and once it does, we'll be on digic8 and have an electronic viewfinder you cannot tell from an optical one, though it'll drain power which is the tradeoff. That means all the information and assist you want in the vf, zebras, focus peaking, ..., and af ("points") everywhere. And 100fps if you want it because there's no mirror to flip.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What would you do? Crop or FF
« on: November 22, 2012, 02:18:14 PM »
I wouldn't bother with a 7D or 60D, given that you have the T2i/550D, which has essentially the same sensor - so from a point of view of IQ, you don't get any improvement.  The only reason to move to a 7D is if you need environmental sealing, better AF or more fps.

... and better usability (lcd display, back wheel, more firmware features) which is a big plus - I wouldn't want to go below a 60d. But of course this is a bad time to get the 18mp sensor - the old 18mp cameras will be cheaper after the rumored 7d2 update.

3) Buy Used 5DIII (LensRentals sale) or 6D and 40mm pancake ($2300).

Unless you really want to shoot sports or track your kids imho the 5d3 would be overkill, the 6d has almost the same sensor (a tiny bit less mp but probably a bit better noise). You most likely don't need the pro-oriented features - the 6d is targeted exactly at your customer group, and even with some tracking might be working (wait for the reviews). Remember the camera body is the part that looses value fastest and the lens takes the pictures.

Would it be worth $1050 and would you trade FF for the lack of a normal zoom lens?

If you've got a steady income and can build your kit lens by lens, there is no need for a zoom if you are ready to change lenses if needed (i.e. you don't shoot events and have to quickly zoom in and out).

If you are struggling with this purchase and think "that's it", then think again - what situations do you shoot and what lenses are required, and esp. what additional items will you need (cf/sd cards, flash(es) + addons, tripod, filters, ...). The stuff next to the "core" gear will probably cost you more than you think.

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Lenses / Re: "Native" ISO... is it real and does it make a difference
« on: November 22, 2012, 01:59:22 PM »
structive:  http://home.comcast.net/~nikond70/Charts/PDR.htm


Thanks for the link, great comparisons there - I'm surprised the current 18mp aps-c sensor has about the same dr as 5d2/3 up to iso 400.

And I'm really looking forward to my first ff camera - where my 60d is getting non-usable (iso1600+) the 5d2/3/6d(?) shows nearly no noise with very little loss of dr. But of course that's not because high iso on Canon ff is so good, but because low iso is so bad (select Nikon d600/d800 if you are ready for the shock...).

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: November 22, 2012, 01:45:40 PM »
As was mentioned by someone else earlier in the posts...How does a 35mm replace a 50mm? They are two completely different focal lengths.
... unless you dual-use them on two different sensor sizes - 35mm on ff = ~50mm on crop, a good combination and that's why the prime I'd get would be 35mm.
I think u mean a 50mm on  FF and a 35 on  a crop? Were we supposed to magically know that??? LOL,

Um... no: 35mm lens on ff equals 35mm * 1.6 (crop factor for Canon aps-c) = 56mm

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Lenses / Re: "Native" ISO... is it real and does it make a difference
« on: November 22, 2012, 12:01:33 PM »
Regardless, a blanket statement to shoot at 1-stop multiples of ISO 160 is not universally applicable advice...

Luckily, the Magic Lantern devs have figured out what iso is "best" - and it's rather surprising and more complicated than one might think because an analog and digital component is involved. Btw, setting the iso via ml gives better iq than via Canon :-)

http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/ISO#Then.2C_what_is_the_best_ISO.3F

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Are ISO 160 multiples the best to use?

NO. They have harsh highlight rolloff and intentionally clipped details in highlights. I have no idea why.

Are ISO 100 multiples the best to use?

NO. While they do have smooth highlight rolloff, they are digitally pushed by a small amount (the exact value depends on picture style and other settings). What does this mean: a small amount of raw data, which actually has the best SNR possible, is simply thrown away.

Then, what is the best ISO?

To the best of my knowledge, the best ISOs are the ones available in recent Magic Lantern versions (April 2012 or later), obtained from ISO 100 multiples adjusted with a small amount of negative digital gain:

    ISO 85, 175, 350, 700, 1400, 2800 - best for Neutral -4 and other low-contrast styles.
    ISO 80, 160, 320, 640, 1250, 2500 - good for a wide range of situations.
    ISO 70, 140, 280, 560, 1100, 2200 - best for high-contrast styles.

To enable them, set DIGIC ISO gain (in ISO submenu) at -0.2/-0.3/-0.5 EV and dial your ISO from ML menu or shortcut keys.

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Lenses / Re: "Affordable" telephoto lens for wildlife
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:47:54 AM »
It's only disadvantage compared to the 300L is losing a stop at 300mm, which isn't too bad if you're outside.

It's not only the 1 stop more light (= lower iso), but imho f5.6 is the absolute minimum @300mm most of the time to have even a small object in focus unless it's in a right angle to the lens. Actually I'd like to shoot @f8 more often, but am limited by the mediocre iso capability of the 18mp sensor - the bokeh is still beautiful and pretty blurred.

So to me the disadvantage of the 70-300L is that focusing gets harder @f5.6, and even more so with a tc @f8 - and of course it's less sharp than a tele prime which is to be expected.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:42:47 AM »
As was mentioned by someone else earlier in the posts...How does a 35mm replace a 50mm? They are two completely different focal lengths.

... unless you dual-use them on two different sensor sizes - 35mm on ff = ~50mm on crop, a good combination and that's why the prime I'd get would be 35mm.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Sigma 35 f/1.4 DG HSM First Impressions
« on: November 22, 2012, 03:22:16 AM »
It might be the time to say goodbye to my Siggy 50mm and get this 35mm.  Just let's see more reviews and I will make the final decision.

Don't you feel these focal lengths are so different you cannot just replace them even if the newer lens is better (and more expensive, btw - often forgotten)?

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Lenses / Re: New EF-S Lenses Are Coming [CR2]
« on: November 21, 2012, 06:41:21 PM »
It was also noted that the 1100D and 60D would quietly be discontinued in the first part of 2013 with no replacements being imminent.

So they do merge the lines again after the 60d/7d split  - this probably means the the 7d2 sensor is such an improvement that they couldn't sell the 60d anymore anyway, nor can they drop the 60d price because the 650d is near.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Coming Nov. 30th?
« on: November 21, 2012, 05:31:55 PM »
New Wi-Fi "EOS Remote "Demo straight from Japan. Nice how fast wi-fi really works.

Yawn ... does what is supposed to to (the mobile interface was already in screenshots).

It would be much more interesting to know how long the battery lasts with wifi on (or gps) and if there'll be a sdk so 3rd parties can program apps that go beyond the basic focus & shoot of Canon.

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