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Lenses / Re: need help with a lens decision
« on: October 11, 2012, 05:12:26 AM »
Or you could look at the new Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 VC and trade it with the 24L lens. I've read that the Tamron's image quality is actually comparable and even beats the 24-70mm version I lens in some areas.

Nope, replacing a 24mm prime with the Tamron zoom is exactly the thing you *cannot* do because the Tamron isn't really sharp even stopped down, beginning from mid-frame on ff. If the op has the cash to get the new 24-70 mk2 from Canon this seems like the smart option, though the prime might have still better iq in some cases (no onion bokeh, better sunstars).

Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 11, 2012, 05:05:44 AM »
Post the full-size, original file. That will give people a chance to post high quality edits.

I just had a look in LR, too. The data in the face in the back is there, but with extremely low resolution and some noise. Btw that's exactly the reason why I'm always complaining about my aps-c and Canon sensors vs. Nikon, when raising shadows you'll run into exactly this problem.

Imho you cannot completely recover this shot, the best that'll be possible is some plastic look like K-Amps' version or you can moderately raise it to lessen the contrast - but it'll be still clear that the face was occluded when the flash fired, sorry. Or maybe you can really copy/paste the face from another good shot.

But that surely will remind you to check for the flashes firing next time  - or switch to radio triggers :-o - why did the flash fail to fire anyway? Wasn't the optical link working?

my casio Z50 does as good....
... not if the statue is moving really fast and in unpredictable ways, that's when the fast af of the non-IS lens and the stellar tracking capabilities of the body can show what they can do :-> ... no, really, I'm just envious, if the op has fun with that gear it's absolutely fine by be.
I'm guessing you're living in Narnia if the statues move really fast and unpredictably?  ;D

No, I'm living in the land where evil wizards make people buy the most expensive gear to shoot their doorknobs and them hex them to rationalize it :-p ... but as I wrote above, that's ok by me, and I've really bad "first shot" pictures.

I'm just rather surprised when looking at 24-70 shots that many amateurs get them because it's the best, no matter the limited zoom range or the missing IS, and then they are used stopped down to do casual landscape or architectural shots and downscale them to web size.

It's really time for a 24-70IS version, Canon - o a 24-105 mk2 @$3000 that'll sell like nothing else before it, for that price tag it'll be "THE" lens :->

EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Talk [CR2]
« on: October 11, 2012, 04:22:49 AM »
Btw, who is really trying to catch up to who here?  Competition is good, so expect the race to go back-and-forth.

Imho atm Canon is hard-pressed to catch up to reality and sanity again. Given the current feature/price combinations this doesn't seem to be the usual volatile "AMD in front of Intel, then the other way around" situation, because once AMD falls behind Intel they concentrate on releasing products with more attractive prices. Conservative Canon with its immovable userbase seems to try "more of the same" no matter what the competition is up to (like 6d vs d600).

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Future of APS-C
« on: October 11, 2012, 04:16:10 AM »
But do you think in the near future there will be a low-light APS-C King?

I guess it'll take Canon aps-c at least another 5 years to get to 5d3 level, but I'm certain they'll get there eventually - the limitations of aps-c are lens resolution and pixel density, I don't see why there would be physical any constraints to low light capability.

EOS Bodies / Re: Looks like the 6D may not be so bad after all
« on: October 10, 2012, 02:59:07 PM »
Argh, that's not what I wanted to hear since I don't care about video. Canon, please release a 5d3s w/o video for $2500, will you?
I guess they could release a DSLR without live-view for cheaper...is that what you'd want?

That would be a little annoying since focus peaking in LV is extremely nice for still shots - but since I've already got a 60d+ml for that, I'd even be ok w/o lv on a 5d3. I really want/need a higher iso capable camera than the current 18mp aps-c with good af for event shots, that's why I wasn't thrilled about the 6d specs.

EOS Bodies / Re: Looks like the 6D may not be so bad after all
« on: October 10, 2012, 02:00:24 PM »
What's wrong with the d600 that makes the 6d shine?
1. Lack of aperture control in Video mode
2. Crippled HDMI out.

Argh, that's not what I wanted to hear since I don't care about video. Canon, please release a 5d3s w/o video for $2500, will you?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Future of APS-C
« on: October 10, 2012, 01:55:23 PM »
The only reasonable APS-C advantage is the price.
Which is a very large advantage. At the risk of repeating myself: "A crop camera is the best/only way of optimizing the following combination of attributes (1) lower price, (2) higher frame rate and (3) smaller pixels (i.e., lots of "pixels per feather").

I recon the scenery will change drastically when better mirrorless cameras will be around - no need for an expensive, sturdy flipping mirror anymore (i.e. more fps are much cheaper to include, just add some faster electronics) and a viewfinder as big as you want it (no need for ff).

The only thing left for ff in the future will be more mp simply because of the larger sensor, but aps-c imho will see a revival after some years of ff advancing until mirrorless systems are ready. And then many people will discover that 25mp aps-c really is enough.

EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixel Talk [CR2]
« on: October 10, 2012, 01:44:18 PM »
But I guess the nature of a forum dictates there will be both.

Indeed - I guess 90% of the people will agree that the current gear (my 60d for example) is absolutely sufficient for most shots, save some on low light for large prints or difficult sports tracking. And if people seek serious advice for the next investment I think they will find it here, though maybe a bit biased to expensive gear and L lenses.

But this a rumors forum about new tech, so I find it somewhat amusing when the argument "it's not about the gear" comes up when Canon does not deliver stuff that really shows a progress in comparison to the predecessors or Nikon. If people would like to vent their frustration about prices or features that is ok by me, and trash-talking that the next lens will be surely "THE" lens is nice while drinking coffee and waiting for Lightroom to process shots.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 5d Mark III Shadow recovery
« on: October 10, 2012, 11:02:43 AM »
If i can do this in post then this is plenty of available DR in shadows for me.

This was no high contrast scene, no direct sunlight and no hard shadows - that's when added dr would make a difference. Btw, pushing shadows in LR/CR imho isn't really a substitute for +ev (with the adjustment brush or graduated filters) because it looks often artificial to me if shadows go over +50 in PV2012. And if you +ev a shot then some added dr helps.

Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 10:52:30 AM »
Oh I shoot raw always but I don't think I can post a 20mb file can I?

Either post the full-size jpeg to minus.com or the like and link it inline, or upload the raw to some file sharing service - yes, you can use the latter for things except copyright infringement :-p

my casio Z50 does as good....

... not if the statue is moving really fast and in unpredictable ways, that's when the fast af of the non-IS lens and the stellar tracking capabilities of the body can show what they can do :-> ... no, really, I'm just envious, if the op has fun with that gear it's absolutely fine by be.

Software & Accessories / Re: Poll: What NR do you use
« on: October 10, 2012, 04:59:37 AM »
I only use lightroom but haven't tried other options, very interested in what other people do.

I'd still like to see a real comparison between a recent LR & dpp, the latter is said to handle nr better because it's tuned for Canon's sensors while LR is very generic. This might make a difference for shots that need high nr, but since LR is absolutely ok for low LR (like 10/10 to 25/25 luma/chroma) I never tried, esp. since LR4 now has the NR adjustment brush.

Lenses / Re: What lens should I use at my first Fashion Show?
« on: October 10, 2012, 04:52:43 AM »
The organizers has not replied to my email about being able to use a flash. I am aiming for prints because if I am able to sell the images then I would like the quality to be there. I may rent a 24-70 L.

If you're renting, why not a f2.8 lens (24-70/70-200)? Maybe you can find out how far you'll be off to get the correct zoom range. Esp. if other pros around they might not even take you for serious (or even might get aggressive) if you've got gear like the amateur from next door. Otherwise the 50/1.8 & 85/1.8 with monopod to compensate for the missing IS sound ok (though the 50mm is not very sharp @open aperture), but if the models are moving you might have to crop (= even more noise).

I have been told to keep the Shutter speed between 1/200-500, F/stop 2.8-4.0,AI servo, spot metering, and Iso no more than 800 due to the noise and because the t3i does not do well in low light.

I also thought about trying something like this with my 60d, but really with the 18mp sensor & shooting for prints this is exactly what you need a ff body + f2.8 zooms for (= big $$$). You might be ok with web-size & iso3200, but other than that the shutter speed might get too low.

With flash & shutter above 1/250s you'll need to use hss (only possible on hot-shoe, not with built-in flash as controller) and your 430ex2 might not have enough power, esp. for multiple shots (that's what you need a 580ex-type with external power pack for). And did you try af servo with your camera before? It really sucks, you might be better off with one-shot when the models stop & pose. Spot metering is very dicy, too, because of the very limited dynamic range of the aps-c sensor esp. at high iso - so if the camera catches a too dark spot the highlights could blow.

But really, maybe I'm too pessimistic, let us know how it went!

Now, the 2.8 IS II is a newer lens but still, I would turn IS off to be on the safe side...

I tried neuro's suggestion a couple of times and left IS on, hoping for the magic tripod detection on my 100L. Result: On longer exposure shots of 1/4s+ the shots with mirror lockup & IS off are sharper than the ones with IS on, even after a 10s timer so the IS could settle & turn off eventually. Shorter exposure times might be better, and it surely isn't the catastrophe an older IS system w/o tripod detection might result in, but my money is still on mlu if I've got the time.

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